Hachibi vs Manda and Manda 2

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Hachibi blitzes, curls and twists around with one tentacle inside his mouth and six other inside his
Wtf are y'all retards?!? Hachibi blitz? With what speed feats!? Manda alone has already shown precise reaction speed and speed, fast enough to react to Hachibi's attacks. Manda 2 being an upgraded version would do this effortlessly
 

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comparing a boss to summon to the 2nd strongest tail beast??? he can tear them apart with just his arm. hachibi was fighting with the juubi not some turtle without any fighting ability.
 

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Hachibi wins this.

Bijuudama barrage ends both. If they happen to miraculously constrict him, he slices whoever is restraining him right in half with a bijuu wave.

C3 managed to flip over the entire island, a single rapidfire bijuudama would kill the turtle and destroy most of its body. Manda II isn't surviving being anywhere near that attack.
 
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Hachibi wins this.

Bijuudama barrage ends both. If they happen to miraculously constrict him, he slices whoever is restraining him right in half with a bijuu wave.

C3 managed to flip over the entire island, a single rapidfire bijuudama would kill the turtle and destroy most of its body. Manda II isn't surviving being anywhere near that attack.
Still didn't counter my argument.
 

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If they happen to miraculously constrict him, he slices whoever is restraining him right in half with a bijuu wave.
When did he have that kind of feats to slice?

C3 managed to flip over the entire island, a single rapidfire bijuudama would kill the turtle and destroy most of its body. Manda II isn't surviving being anywhere near that attack.
By what feats would a Bijuudama explosion deal more damage then C3's attempt on the Turtle Island?

Second, a Buijuudama ratio is very important of chakra built, meaning a rapidfire will do less damage then a focused one.

Snake Summonings has the best feats of the toughest hide. Considering it has ability to be sacrifice for explosions[ ]. Manda I body also remain on tact with C0, so that is a definite tank for Manda II to something inferior.

Since Bee already tanked TBB (a much focus blast), but was vulnerable to weapons like Shiruken's, it is completely reasonable to show this as an example of Snakes naturally having tougher hide/durability then Hachibi. [ ] you can see these snakes tough hide able to repel these weapons. Now of course I am not saying the same snakes are able to tank what was thrown at Hachibi, but to look at it as another perceptive. Since Kishimoto already explains that they're rankings in summons meaning one snake summoning will be inferior to another. We can conclude as if those inferior to Manda I and II the feats follows, to something as compatible as what Hachibi can deal with.
 
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Still didn't counter my argument.
sure i did. Reread what you typed and read how my post counters that.

When did he have that kind of feats to slice?
what are you talking about? It's a bijuuwave. It's an attack that focuses a bijuudama's power into a condensed wave, unless you believe that manda 2 or manda have the durability at point blank then they'd obviously get sliced in half.



By what feats would a Bijuudama explosion deal more damage then C3's attempt on the Turtle Island?
by C3 being far far smaller than a bijuudama's explosion....

Second, a Buijuudama ratio is very important of chakra built, meaning a rapidfire will do less damage then a focused one.
, that still puts it way above C3.

Snake Summonings has the best feats of the toughest hide. Considering it has ability to be sacrifice for explosions[ ]. Manda I body also remain on tact with C0, so that is a definite tank for Manda II to something inferior.
look at how big that snake is compared to the crater that the explosion made. that's not a good blast-to-snake size ratio, even a rapidfire bijuudama would produce an explosion much larger than that compared to a coiled up manda 2. Manda I didn't take C0's full force as summons poof when they take too much damage from an attack.



Since Bee already tanked TBB (a much focus blast), but was vulnerable to weapons like Shiruken's, it is completely reasonable to show this as an example of Snakes naturally having tougher hide/durability then Hachibi. [ ] you can see these snakes tough hide able to repel these weapons. Now of course I am not saying the same snakes are able to tank what was thrown at Hachibi, but to look at it as another perceptive. Since Kishimoto already explains that they're rankings in summons meaning one snake summoning will be inferior to another. We can conclude as if those inferior to Manda I and II the feats follows, to something as compatible as what Hachibi can deal with.
The hachibi's tails are by far the weakest part of its body, so sure the shurikens can cut that, but they aren't cutting the actual body unless they have some special anti-bijuu properties channeled through them. If you want to do a comparison, look at what killed Sasuke's summon on that scan you posted and compare the size of that explosion to and the hachibi has beyond far greater durability than defensive snakes.
 
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what are you talking about? It's a bijuuwave. It's an attack that focuses a bijuudama's power into a condensed wave, unless you believe that manda 2 or manda have the durability at point blank then they'd obviously get sliced in half.




by C3 being far far smaller than a bijuudama's explosion....


, that still puts it way above C3.


look at how big that snake is compared to the crater that the explosion made. that's not a good blast-to-snake size ratio, even a rapidfire bijuudama would produce an explosion much larger than that compared to a coiled up manda 2. Manda I didn't take C0's full force as summons poof when they take too much damage from an attack.



The hachibi's tails are by far the weakest part of its body, so sure the shurikens can cut that, but they aren't cutting the actual body unless they have some special anti-bijuu properties channeled through them. If you want to do a comparison, look at what killed Sasuke's summon on that scan you posted and compare the size of that explosion to and the hachibi has beyond far greater durability than defensive snakes.
Next page shows its exploding. Suigetsu wasnt cut at point blant either.

Your exaggerating, how small you think Suna village is? C3 bomb is roughly the same size when you scale the TBB engulfed Bee, to Bee compare to the Turtle island, to C3 explosion in water.

depending on how you scaling C3

That still follows my premise perfectly, as each Snake- level used dealt with bigger and stronger explosions. Manda II size is able to coil Manda I, with its lower half (Manda II still has no reason to coil at all.) Manda I tanking a partial blast is still a testament.

Even if it was the weakest part of the body, which I agree to, that doesn't change the fact the it was able to take the explosion of a TBB. So by my premise of Snake compatibility should be able to endure the blast. Manda I might be out of commission with the blast but Manda II can definitely take a bit more.
 

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sure i did. Reread what you typed and read how my post counters that.


what are you talking about? It's a bijuuwave. It's an attack that focuses a bijuudama's power into a condensed wave, unless you believe that manda 2 or manda have the durability at point blank then they'd obviously get sliced in half.




by C3 being far far smaller than a bijuudama's explosion....


, that still puts it way above C3.


look at how big that snake is compared to the crater that the explosion made. that's not a good blast-to-snake size ratio, even a rapidfire bijuudama would produce an explosion much larger than that compared to a coiled up manda 2. Manda I didn't take C0's full force as summons poof when they take too much damage from an attack.



The hachibi's tails are by far the weakest part of its body, so sure the shurikens can cut that, but they aren't cutting the actual body unless they have some special anti-bijuu properties channeled through them. If you want to do a comparison, look at what killed Sasuke's summon on that scan you posted and compare the size of that explosion to and the hachibi has beyond far greater durability than defensive snakes.
Lmao how is an explosion slicing someone in half? You sir are an idiot. Also didn't even read the rest of your arguments because i know there shitty just because of the first couple of sentences you wrote.

TBB Ends This...Don't Compare A Bijuu With 2 Summoning Animals...
Bring an argument to the table or GTFOH.
 
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Manda due wins this... Regular Manga had enough to tank Deidara c0 and which is clearly more powerful than a non-charged Bijuudama. Remember a put Hachibi down for the . Reasons why im stating this is because Manda's already know they only way to get close to Hachibi without getting nuked is to go . Note this Manda was already behide Gamabunta he used the end of his body as a distraction so he could eat . This is just proving how fast Manda is. Also 8tails Whirlwind it's a pretty good argument but it can be easily countered. Let's say the Manda's are caught in the whirlwind and are thrown around
. . Now i state why the whirlwind won't work. Manda 2 easily has enough strength to overcome the pressure of the 8tails whirlwind.

Once Manda goes underground and gets close to Hachibi is a done deal. Hachibi would try to use His Bijuudama but at that range it would hurt Hachibi as well basically making him unable to fight. Manda 2 is easily bigger than Hachibi and faster plus it's stronger and has more durability. So it will easily have it's way with Hachibi if he doesn't try to use a Bijuudama. If he doesn't Manda 2 wraps him up and restrain him. Bijuu have shown that they can't perform Bijuudama's while being restrained. After he's restrained regular Manda comes in for the kill.
 
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