[Theory] Hagoromo and Hamura, Naruto and Sasuke

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In this theory I will try to conclude that there is more to Hagomoro and Hamura than it meets the eye.
I will post several reasons and scans from the manga which will support the later claim.

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Kaguya had two sons, it is not important how they were born but it is 100% clear that she had two sons, Hamura and Hogoromo.
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and Hagoromo had two sons himself, Ashura and Indra, but what happened to Hamura?
After they sealed the 10 tails, Hamura goes out of the story, not even Black Zetsu mentions him.
We know that Indra and Ashura are reincarnated into Sasuke and Naruto respectively, and the later fact was clear when Hagoromo showed the spirit of Ashura in naruto.

Here is where it gets crazy,

There has not been a single manga scan or even a statement which states that Ashura had the sun sign and Indra the moon, but we have clear scans of Hagoromo and Hamura having those signs.

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In the scan above we are able to see that Hagoromo had the sun sign in his right hand.
We have yet to see Hagoromo's left hand to conclude if he had the moon sign or not, but all that we have seen in the latest chapter simply abolishes the fact of Hagoromo having the moon sign in his left hand.

Kaguya was reminded of her sons and even called Naruto, Hagoromo and sasuke, Hamura,

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In the scans above you are able to see what I am taking about.

Conclusions:
I. Naruto and Sasuke do not just represent Ashura and Indra but also Hagoromo and Hamura
II. Ashura and Indra lacked the sun and the moon signs respectively
III. Naruto and sasuke have yet to unlock their full potential.
IV. There is more to Hamura and Hagoromo than it meets the eye
 

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the sun sign is yang, and the moon sign is yin.sasuke has stated it. and both powers (yin and yang) were given by hagoromo. which means his left hand must have moon sign
 
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the sun sign is yang, and the moon sign is yin.sasuke has stated it. and both powers (yin and yang) were given by hagoromo. which means his left hand must have moon sign

As I stated in my theory, hagoromo did not had the Moon sign originally but was bestowed by his brother to him, perhaps when he was dying but he did not had it originally.
 

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kaguya has three sons
black zetsu too
 

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Yeah it's confusing especially with black zetsu xd
 

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If Hamura had the Moon seal y would Kaguya conclude that Hagoromo was the person that gave Sasuke his seal?
 

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Hagoramo most likely got the yin power from Hamura before/ during the fight against their mother.
 

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Hagoramo most likely got the yin power from Hamura before/ during the fight against their mother.

Him passing on the yin seal during the fight would make the most sense, but if that is the case then y is Hagoromo's staff shown with both the sun and moon? Had it already happened when they r shown taking on the Juubi? If so wat did Hamura actually do?
 
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There u go :win:

Thanks for the scan, but as I said in the OP that Hagoromo might not have had the moon sign originally, but his brother could have passed his powers to hagoromo the same way Hagoromo passed his powers to Sasuke and naruto. But that scan does not say specifically that the powers that were passed were Hagoromo's originally.
 

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Thanks for the scan, but as I said in the OP that Hagoromo might not have had the moon sign originally, but his brother could have passed his powers to hagoromo the same way Hagoromo passed his powers to Sasuke and naruto. But that scan does not say specifically that the powers that were passed were Hagoromo's originally.

It does imply though that during the time Kaguya was alive she knew that Hagoromo possessed both seals
 

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I remember reading a manga chapter where Hagoromo states that Hagura had the juubi's brain and it was transfered to Indra when Hagura was almost dead... that's how Ashura awakened the Sharingan... The juubi's brain had 3 tomoes. read the manga chapter where hagoromo gives naruto and sasuke his powers from the beginning
 

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I remember reading a manga chapter where Hagoromo states that Hagura had the juubi's brain and it was transfered to Indra when Hagura was almost dead... that's how Ashura awakened the Sharingan... The juubi's brain had 3 tomoes. read the manga chapter where hagoromo gives naruto and sasuke his powers from the beginning

:sweat: uuummm what??? would u please provide a scan or a link
 

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kaguya has three sons
black zetsu too

BZ is a psychopath. He is not Kaguya's son. Rather he is her will that she latched just as King Picollo latched an egg when Goku blow him up. You call call BZ both Kaguya's son or Kaguya herself. Basically, the best way to call BZ is Kaguya's will just as he said to madara.
 
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