Entire Iwagakure vs Prime Nagato

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They have two jinchuuriki's on their side.

Edo tensei Nagato couldn't handle kcm naruto, v2 bee, and Edo itachi at the same time.

In this match up they have two bijuus/jinchuuriki and two Kages on there side (along with other jounins).

You do realize that once C3 is touch (even with repulsive force) it will detonate,....right?

MS Tobi was only able to take one bijuu and he couldn't keep up with prime Hiruzen(with help) via kurama and minato at the same time.

So Nagato who is second in akatsuki will have no way of winning....

Especially when you have deidara too, Nagato can't absorb explosions
-Cool.

-KCM Naruto, BM Bee, Edo Itachi is a much better team than Iwagakure..

-Cool.

-Hence I said ST hits it while it is mid-air, so if it explodes the dog summon allows Nagato to survive by engulfing him, added with his Asura defence. Do note Iwagakure is also affected.. Moreover, this is assuming C3 is already prepped, as C3 was prepped for the Gaara match. This is also assuming Nagato hasn't soul ripped Deidara before he preps his C3. lml.

-Cool? Teenage MS Obito. Either way Kurama was under his control, and Minato is a bad match-up for any S/T user, let alone a teenaged one.

-No viable points on your behalf, so Nagato is still winning.

-Again, S/T blows back any bomb since Deidara needs to activate it for it to explode. C3 requires prep (wouldn't kill him either way), Deidara isn''t getting the necessary prep as Bansho tenin>Soul rip kills him.
 

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I'd like to see them take on Gedo Mazo. And then a Chou Shinra Tensei. And then a Chibaku Tensei to clean up the mess.



CT gets destroyed by Double jinton × 2

half of them are flying .. so cst would only kill fodders like ittan

Gedo mazo gets one shooted by jinton

all summons gets destroyed by C3 or TBB

C4 ends him ..
 

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BT + soul rip = Onoki using Kajugan before or while he activates the tech, since soul rip requires physical touch and Kajugan does as well
ST = Onoki, Mu, and Deidara all fly so they'd be out of range
CT = island sized Jinton combined with Mu's to end the gravitational pull
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If nagato uses the gedo mazo/soul dragon he'll end up being unable to fight bc he'll have those sticks in his backs which'll cost him the fight easily

summons either get jintoned cause lack of mobility or get captured by Kurotsuchi's Sekkaigyo or trapped/crushed by Kitsuchi's dome which took a huge amount of the Juubi's strength to counter!

How does Nagato counter C3. He can't absorb an explosion that destroyed an entire village!!!!! :bouncy: plus C0? Sasuke needed to reverse summon himself to the Ryuchi Cave just to avoid it, and even then he barely did!!!

First flaw at quick glance

Nagato can't absorb explosions
 

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With manga knowledge, Nagato would know of Deidara's, Han's and Roshi's abilities, which means he would most likely opt for a Bansho Tenin + Soul Rip on Deidara at the very start of the match, to crush any member of Team Iwa not named Mu or Onoki. The team is not likely to anticipate this, seeing that none of them besides Onoki have experience facing the Rinnegan, and he himself never had to deal with Bansho Tenin or Human Path. Thus Deidara can be taken out of the match very quickly.

With extra arms thanks to Asura Path, he can also summon the Cerberus + any other large summons and bombard the other side with all at the same time. Han + Roshi would be next to go since their close combat styles make them easy targets for Preta Path + Soul Rip/Bansho Tenin + Soul Rip, whilst his summons and wipe out fodder like Ittan, Kurotsuchi and Akasuchi, and generally help to keep the other side at bay.

Thanks to shared vision from his summons, , chakra infused rain, and sensing abilities superior to Mu himself, it is very unlikely that anyone would be able to sneak up on Nagato in this match, even Mu. If Mu tries to sneak up and stab Nagato, he would most likely get caught via Asura Path just as easily as a , then Mu gets taken out with a .

And thanks to his chameleon, he wouldn't even need to be out in the open. He could simply pressure the remaining members of the team with , and if they aren't dead from being catapulted across Iwagakure ( ), he can go invisible via the chameleon and pick off whoever's still alive with surprise Asura Path chakra cannon, and/or Bansho Tenin + Soul Rip/chakra rod to the skull.

With missiles and summons providing ample pressure, and nukes such as boss toad sized Shinra Tensei and Asura Path chakra cannon on his side, Nagato can overwhelm the other side quite quickly before their bigger techs come into play. Jinton is absorbed easily every time it is attempted on Nagato thanks to his sensing abilities and shared vision anticipating it, so is every other chakra based ninjutsu used by the team. The rain hard counters Mu's invisibility, and if he attempts to destroy the clouds with Jinton (unlikely since he does not have knowledge on how Nagato's rain works), not only will he have to be visible to perform Jinton, he also makes himself vulnerable to being assaulted with missiles, or a Bansho Tenin + Asura Path chakra cannon/Soul Rip/chakra rod to the skull.

Thus Nagato wins this handily. If all else fails he can simply crush them all with Chou Shinra Tensei, then summon Gedo Mazo and kill anyone left alive with Soul Dragons.
 

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-Cool.

-KCM Naruto, BM Bee, Edo Itachi is a much better team than Iwagakure..

No they're not...

They would get destroyed

-Cool.

-Hence I said ST hits it while it is mid-air, so if it explodes the dog summon allows Nagato to survive by engulfing him, added with his Asura defence. Do note Iwagakure is also affected.. Moreover, this is assuming C3 is already prepped, as C3 was prepped for the Gaara match. This is also assuming Nagato hasn't soul ripped Deidara before he preps his C3. lml.

Never stated that deidara has to drop it from the sky.

He can't attack deidara if he has two other kages and jinchuurikis attacking

-Cool? Teenage MS Obito. Either way Kurama was under his control, and Minato is a bad match-up for any S/T user, let alone a teenaged one.

-No viable points on your behalf, so Nagato is still winning.

Stating Nagato wins isn't going anywhere

-Again, S/T blows back any bomb since Deidara needs to activate it for it to explode. C3 requires prep (wouldn't kill him either way), Deidara isn''t getting the necessary prep as Bansho tenin>Soul rip kills him.

Again, invisible Muu and flying oonoki will be fighting too.

C3 being implanted in the mist of this battle would end nagato.

I didn't even mention all the other people's attack
 

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If Konoha couldn't handle the 6POP with knowledge, i don't see why would Iwa stand any chance at all w/o knowledge and against Nagato himself.
You basically pitted an even weaker village, against an even stronger foe.
There's not a single one of them that poses any real threat whatsoever.
 
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If Konoha couldn't handle the 6POP with knowledge, i don't see why would Iwa stand any chance at all w/o knowledge and against Nagato himself.
You basically pitted an even weaker village, against an even stronger foe.
There's not a single one of them that poses any real threat whatsoever.


Lmao this line up would obliterate konaha no diff!!! Only ninjas they had was kakashi tsnunade, and naruto to even bring up. Gai was gone and so has hiashi.
 

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No they're not...

They would get destroyed

-Cool.

Irrelevant but no.

Never stated that deidara has to drop it from the sky.

He can't attack deidara if he has two other kages and jinchuurikis attacking

You ignored the fact he has to prep. You ignore the fact he insta dies if he's not air-borne. Try again.
And yes, he can. He has shown to use Deva, Asura, Anima, and Naraka at the same time. Preta is no exception to this, implications imply he can use all paths at once as no restrictions were ever placed. Preta to absorb any attacks whilst he uses ST>Soul rip.



Again, invisible Muu and flying oonoki will be fighting too.

C3 being implanted in the mist of this battle would end nagato.

I didn't even mention all the other people's attack
Examples of how they contribute? Jinton is absorbed, so they have no good jutsu vs him. Stealth is week since rain sensing is on contact,, just like Gaara's sand. It gives him the ability to sense chakra and anyone who is being touched by the rain [ ]. Mu's stealth is useless, thus he as a whole is useless in this fight. Nagato senses it. Nagato uses to blow it away. Databook says this can knock over a human, C3 Is blown back. Nagato senses it with rain/sensing. Nagato sees it with Rinnegan. Deidara doesn't get to prep it either way, don't you get it? IT REQUIRES PREPPP.
That's because they are non factors.
 

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If Konoha couldn't handle the 6POP with knowledge, i don't see why would Iwa stand any chance at all w/o knowledge and against Nagato himself.
You basically pitted an even weaker village, against an even stronger foe.
There's not a single one of them that poses any real threat whatsoever.


Iwa gakure stomps konoha [ in pain arc ]

only kage level ninja they have tsunade and kakashi .. and some fodders ..
Iwagakure have 2 kages , 2 jin , 1 akatsuki member
 

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Nagato uses a cst,turns iwa to a crater and leaves no sign of anyone
 

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Lmao this line up would obliterate konaha no diff!!! Only ninjas they had was kakashi tsnunade, and naruto to even bring up. Gai was gone and so has hiashi.

Iwa gakure stomps konoha [ in pain arc ]

only kage level ninja they have tsunade and kakashi .. and some fodders ..
Iwagakure have 2 kages , 2 jin , 1 akatsuki member

@Draegod: 9 shinobi soloing an entire village? I don't think so. These guys are not on Nagato/Pein's level.

@DMT: Not really. Konoha was overall second only to . And that was after Orochimaru's invasion when Konoha was at its weakest.
It actually makes sense for Kumo to be the strongest since it was the only village which actually managed to produce a perfect Jinchuuriki and never stopped searching for new jutsus and improving their military strenght even when the world was at peace.

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@both: Posting that Iwa > Konoha based on the number of notable characters we're aware of, doesn't prove at all that 9 guys from Iwa stand the slightest chance of surviving 5 min against Nagato.
 
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@Draegod: 9 shinobi soloing an entire village? I don't think so. These guys are not on Nagato/Pein's level.

@DMT: Not really. Konoha was overall second only to . And that was after Orochimaru's invasion when Konoha was at its weakest.
It actually makes sense for Kumo to be the strongest since it was the only village which actually managed to produce a perfect Jinchuuriki and never stopped searching for new jutsus and improving their military strenght even when the world was at peace.

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@both: Posting that Iwa > Konoha based on the number of notable characters we're aware of, doesn't prove at all that 9 guys from Iwa stand the slightest chance of surviving 5 min against Nagato.


1. You brought up konaha, and implied they were any where near this line ups power level.
2. Deidara and onoki alone can destroy that same konaha pain defeated.


Fact of the matter is you cannot compare konaha at that time to this list. These 9 ninja are ions above the village pain destroyed. 2 jins alone is op. Adding two of the most powerful kages aswell and thinking Nagato low duffs is beyond funny. Nagato loses nothing to talk about.
 

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What???????? Nagato loses this. I'll give my reasons if interested.
 

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1. You brought up konaha, and implied they were any where near this line ups power level.
2. Deidara and onoki alone can destroy that same konaha pain defeated.


Fact of the matter is you cannot compare konaha at that time to this list. These 9 ninja are ions above the village pain destroyed. 2 jins alone is op. Adding two of the most powerful kages aswell and thinking Nagato low duffs is beyond funny. Nagato loses nothing to talk about.

Konoha had much more than just Kakashi, Tsunade and Naruto, but again its all about on screen feats. Iwa was never superior to Konoha at any point in time but then again, its all about C4 gg, Jinton gg, etc...

Anything they throw is either absorbed (Preta Path) or destroyed (Deva Path). Multiple summoning take care of the numbers and get rid of the lesser ones (Onoki's bodyguards, Ittan).
Here Iwa contributes with two kages whose main card in useless, two imperfect Jinchuuriki who would most likely hinder their team due to their absence of control, a reckless and arrogant bomber whose biggest weakness after himself is dojutsu (which Nagato happens to have) and a jonin commander whose biggest and strongest Doton can easily be destroyed without much effort.
Is there any reasoning behind these claims that Nagato gets destroyed? Becase if there's any obvious outcome, that's in Nagato's favour.
 
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