Senju admits Uchiha is the strongest clan

[Joshutsu]

This cant get more obvious.

Uchiha
Senju

1. Kaguya
2. Madara
3. Hagoromo
4. Hamura
5. Sasuke
6. Naruto
7. Obito
8. Guy
9. Sage Kabuto Edo Army
10. Indra
11. Ashura
12. Senju Orochimaru Edo army
13. Nagato
14. Hashirama
15. Itachi
16. Minato
17. Hiruzen
18. Shisui
19. 3rd Raikage
20. Kakashi

Yeah and your top 20 list is the truth? Just like everyone elses right? Get out. No tobirama are you kidding me?

In ratio of uchihas we know to senju we know 2 full bred sennju are all we have and both are top 20.

 

[Jericho Senju]

1. Madara denounced the Uchiha clan when they voted Hashirama the Hokage. He went solo.
2. Obito Joined Madara and denounced the Uchiha clan too. Further proving that by assisting in killing his former clan.
3. Itachi denounced the Uchiha clan and fully committed himself to the leaf village. Then with assistance of Obito wipped out his former clan.

Did you read the same manga i did? This is a Naruto manga right?

Edit: In addition the fact that Obito and Itachi wiped out the entire clan in a matter of hours does not help your argument at all.

 

[KingHashirama]

The Uchiha are stronger than the Senju, and last chapter proved Madara didn't want to kill Hashirama.​

Madara rules ^^^^ you need to stop trying too hard brah. When the manga clearly stated Madara LOST to Hashirama Senju.

 

[TrollingSage]

Tobirama said nothing of that sort.

 

[Djokovic]

Yeah and your top 20 list is the truth? Just like everyone elses right? Get out. No tobirama are you kidding me?

In ratio of uchihas we know to senju we know 2 full bred sennju are all we have and both are top 20.

Even if I list Tobirama, senju clan wil still prove inferior. Madara can potentially one- shot whole Senju generation proven in my other thread, leaving us with no space for discussion.

Obito and Madara needed to take Hashirama's power and get access to the Juubi in order to surpass him.

Sasuke needed to get half of Rikudo Sennin's power to surpass Hashirama.

Indra was inferior to Ashura, as stated by Black Zetsu.

You can cry all you want, but the fact remains that top 3 Uchiha's can easily dismantle the strongest Senju member. As my ranking showed Senju's are struggling hard t make any impression.

It was never stated that Ashura defeated Indra on his own, quite the opposite actualy which only proves that Indra is indeed the superior one, not that matters much when Uchiha is blessed with Madara, Sasuke and Obito.

 

[ministerC4]

Uchiha is the top clan, no way around it.
But they are also a bunch of puppets so who cares really?

 

[KidGamer65]

You can cry all you want, but the fact remains that top 3 Uchiha's can easily dismantle the strongest Senju member. As my ranking showed Senju's are struggling hard t make any impression.

It was never stated that Ashura defeated Indra on his own, quite the opposite actualy which only proves that Indra is indeed the superior one, not that matters much when Uchiha is blessed with Madara, Sasuke and Obito.

I'm just stating a fact. Uchiha needed Senju's power to rise above them.

BZ already stated Indra lost the war for the succession of Ninshu. Asura either beat him, or they tied. Indra wasn't superior at the end.

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

I like how you just watched the latest anime episode ( which is at this part right now ) and decided to post this thread acting as if you just came to a realization.

But yes, obviously Uchiha at max potential are stronger than Senju. Everyone should know this. Sharingan/Rinnegan is literally the only reason why, but it's still funny to know that the Uchiha still had their behinds handed to them despite that.

Heh hehe well said

 

[Lostdreams]

Uchiha are stronger but everyone on the village Rushmore are opposite of Uchiha.
The case could be made that everyone of the kages are decedents of senju.

Again, and again Uchiha have been after Senju dna...not once has a senju been after uchiha powers.


Personally i think they are equal at the top.
Madara=the first.
Sasuke= Naruto

 

[Djokovic]

I'm just stating a fact. Uchiha needed Senju's power to rise above them.

BZ already stated Indra lost the war for the succession of Ninshu. Asura either beat him, or they tied. Indra wasn't superior at the end.

Lets not make assumptions and stick to what we know. We dont have enough evidence to prove any outcome. Lets just agree Ashindra were close or equals atleast.

If I remember correctly BZ said Madara was the only one who could activate the Rinnegan from the previous generations so ina way this indicates Madara is far above everyone else potential wise.

I will agree on the fact that Uchiha stole the senju Dna in order to progress, but do you really think any ****s are given by us when Madara is on top?

 

[KidGamer65]

Lets not make assumptions and stick to what we know. We dont have enough evidence to prove any outcome. Lets just agree Ashindra were close or equals atleast.

Black Zetsu said Indra lost. That is sticking to what we know.

If I remember correctly BZ said Madara was the only one who could activate the Rinnegan from the previous generations so ina way this indicates Madara is far above everyone else potential wise.

Yeah, out of the Uchiha.

I will agree on the fact that Uchiha stole the senju Dna in order to progress, but do you really think any ****s are given by us when Madara is on top?

No, I was just saying. Don't make it seem like the Uchiha Clan is vastly superior because of their own potential. Its because of the potentials of both clans.

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

If Senju clan was comparable then we would have been introduced by Hashirama's successor already. Its almost embarassing to see that senju members are struggling for a spot in top 10. Uchiha has 3 Shinobi who are easily top 10 with few others who have the potential.

Exactly what I just said, not comparable. . . :yeah:

 

[Demonic.]

The Uchiha are stronger than the Senju, and last chapter proved Madara didn't want to kill Hashirama.​

It did? How so?

 

[Demonic.]

I'm just stating a fact. Uchiha needed Senju's power to rise above them.

BZ already stated Indra lost the war for the succession of Ninshu. Asura either beat him, or they tied. Indra wasn't superior at the end.

They tied. Remember the Sage said they both killed themselves. But their spirits lived on.

 

[KidGamer65]

They tied. Remember the Sage said they both killed themselves. But their spirits lived on.

Rikudo never said that they tied. He said that even though their bodies were destroyed, their chakra continued to exist. That doesn't mean that the war was the cause of the destruction of their bodies, their deaths. Add Black Zetsu's statement where he said Indra lost the war for the succession of Ninshu (same war Rikudo said began) then you come to the conclusion that Ashura defeated Indra.

 

[Demonic.]

Rikudo never said that they tied. He said that even though their bodies were destroyed, their chakra continued to exist. That doesn't mean that the war was the cause of the destruction of their bodies, their deaths. Add Black Zetsu's statement where he said Indra lost the war for the succession of Ninshu (same war Rikudo said began) then you come to the conclusion that Ashura defeated Indra.

I agree. But in terms of the battle they both killed themselves. This reminds me of when Naruto told Sasuke if they were to fight, they'd both die. It seems it's always a tie except for Hashirama and Madara. But I found the last chapter strange when it said Tobirama kept Madara's body to study the Sharingan. Wouldn't Hashi have wanted to bury his friend? Tobi also said after Madara was defeated in order to prevent the rise of another traitor Tobirama made the Uchiha the police force. It's like Tobirama took charge after the fight. I hate to say it but Hashi might've died from his wounds later on from his battle with Madara too.

 

[KidGamer65]

I agree. But in terms of the battle they both killed themselves. This reminds me of when Naruto told Sasuke if they were to fight, they'd both die. It seems it's always a tie except for Hashirama and Madara. But I found the last chapter strange when it said Tobirama kept Madara's body to study the Sharingan. Wouldn't Hashi have wanted to bury his friend? Tobi also said after Madara was defeated in order to prevent the rise of another traitor Tobirama made the Uchiha the police force. It's like Tobirama took charge after the fight. I hate to say it but Hashi might've died from his wounds later on from his battle with Madara too.

Nope. That isn't implied. Not implied at all. Indra and Ashura didn't kill each other during the war nor did they tie. Indra lost, survived, and Black Zetsu decided to tempt him. [

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You came up with the bold based on an assumption, which is underlined. Tobirama keeping Madara's body doesn't mean that Hashirama died, nor does it mean that Tobirama "took charge". Him keeping it simply means that Hashirama was fine with it.

And if you decide to look at Hashirama after the fight, you will see that he doesn't even have any serious injuries let alone injuries that would kill him after the fight.

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

Technically that Senju DNA is Hashirama... Hashirama himself said Itachi was a better shinobi than himself.

 

[FleeOnSight]

Yet not one was called god of shinobi

 

[Demonic.]

Nope. That isn't implied. Not implied at all. Indra and Ashura didn't kill each other during the war nor did they tie. Indra lost, survived, and Black Zetsu decided to tempt him. [

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You came up with the bold based on an assumption, which is underlined. Tobirama keeping Madara's body doesn't mean that Hashirama died, nor does it mean that Tobirama "took charge". Him keeping it simply means that Hashirama was fine with it.

And if you decide to look at Hashirama after the fight, you will see that he doesn't even have any serious injuries let alone injuries that would kill him after the fight.

Yes you're right I checked. I had a scan with a different translation. It doesnt say they killed each other. My bad.