If Heaven really existed...

[hokagenaruto1]

Sorry to break it to you but God is not real.

Dat proof tho? Where's it at?

 

[Donald J Trump]

I do not believe in having fun at My God's expense. As to me, it is blasphemy.

I personally am not really religious nor am I an atheist, I just don't know what is out there after death, but I think something will be out there (not god or hell).

What kind of god puts someone to hell for not believing a book that is full of false facts( like the earth is flat) AND even if he is real, how can he judge me after only seeing me for around 60 to 90 years(when I probably die). Can you really go off 60 to 90 years of information and acting to put someone in hell FOREVER.

 

[hokagenaruto1]

I personally am not really religious nor am I an atheist, I just don't know what is out there after death, but I think something will be out there (not god or hell).

What kind of god puts someone to hell for not believing a book that is full of false facts( like the earth is flat) AND even if he is real, how can he judge me after only seeing me for around 60 to 90 years(when I probably die). Can you really go off 60 to 90 years of information and acting to put someone in hell FOREVER.

What do you mean after 60 to 90 years? You probably judge people every day. You don't know them but you probably judge them and make assumptions. In fact, it's human nature to make assumptions off of someone based on their appearance. God knows you better than you know yourself. It's not just 90 years. He's known you even before you were born and where you would end up and what you would do.

 

[Donald J Trump]

Why would you reward one of your creations if it doesn't function properly and work for you. You wouldn't be proud of it. God made me to do something specific. Honestly, I'm proud and honored to know that God has tasks for me which only I can do. Orochimaru did the same thing. He didn't need people and he was strong enough by himself but he still gave them tasks he could've done. I am in no way saying Orochimaru is = to God. Orochimaru isn't even real. I'm just putting it into words you can understand.

Sorry to break it to you but your mum and dad fu**ed and made you. Right now If I go out and get someone pregnant, than kill the baby that would be born after 9 month, would that go under god's plan? If so than what is the point of creating a baby and just killing him/her or letting me kill him/her

 

[Mypower]

Dat proof tho? Where's it at?

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I'm sorry for that weak thesis, I was having an argument elsewhere. If someone were to come to you today and say, "I am God!", what would you do? Yes, you would immediately ask for proof. Of course you would. And you would not want goofy proof.You would want real, solid, tangible proof.

No normal person, and I mean no one, would accept anything less than rock solid proof from a person who claims to be God.

Why should it be any different with Jesus? Jesus was a man who claims to be God. If he is God, then he ought to be able to prove it in a real, inimitable way. If he cannot prove it then, quite clearly, he is not God.

A Christian would say, "But Jesus HAS proven it! Just look at all of the miracles he did in the Bible! He healed the sick! He changed water into wine! That PROVES that Jesus is the Lord!" Does that make sense to you? Imagine that someone, today, were to come up to you and say, "I am God, and I will prove that I am God by healing the sick and turning water into wine!" What would you say? Be honest. You would not believe this person because:

Everyone has seen all sorts of "faith healers" who can "heal" the sick. And we all know that this sort of "healing" is quackery. If it were true, then we would not need doctors, hospitals or prescription medicines.
Turning water into wine... Doesn't that sound like something that a B-grade David-Copperfield-wannabe magician would do in a nightclub act? There are a dozen ways that you could stage things to make it look like water is turning into wine. There is no reason why a normal person would accept a magic trick as proof that someone is God.
Neither of these miracles can be scientifically tested today. Not one of Jesus' miracles left any tangible evidence for scientists to study.

 

[Kamui Sama]

not very funny at all

 

[Donald J Trump]

What do you mean after 60 to 90 years? You probably judge people every day. You don't know them but you probably judge them and make assumptions. In fact, it's human nature to make assumptions off of someone based on their appearance. God knows you better than you know yourself. It's not just 90 years. He's known you even before you were born and where you would end up and what you would do.

Your comment is the most stupid thing I have ever read, if he knows what I am going to do, than why not just put me in heaven or hell right now as he knows what I will do in 40 years anyways." how can he judge me after only seeing me for around 60 to 90 years" yet you replay with " You probably judge people every day", ME judging has nothing to do with God.Also how can he know me before I exist? Unless you are saying he made me than sent me down to earth? Or is it just magic?

 

[hokagenaruto1]

Sorry to break it to you but your mum and dad fu**ed and made you. Right now If I go out and get someone pregnant, than kill the baby that would be born after 9 month, would that go under god's plan? If so than what is the point of creating a baby and just killing him/her or letting me kill him/her

Lol that baby would go to heaven and as for you... well that all depends on whether you repent or not. You can't ruin God's plan. In the end he has the final say and everything goes his way.

 

[Mypower]

Lol that baby would go to heaven and as for you... well that all depends on whether you repent or not. You can't ruin God's plan. In the end he has the final say and everything goes his way.

I can't with this guy he's so delusional.

 

[hokagenaruto1]

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I'm sorry for that weak thesis, I was having an argument elsewhere. If someone were to come to you today and say, "I am God!", what would you do? Yes, you would immediately ask for proof. Of course you would. And you would not want goofy proof.You would want real, solid, tangible proof.

No normal person, and I mean no one, would accept anything less than rock solid proof from a person who claims to be God.

Why should it be any different with Jesus? Jesus was a man who claims to be God. If he is God, then he ought to be able to prove it in a real, inimitable way. If he cannot prove it then, quite clearly, he is not God.

A Christian would say, "But Jesus HAS proven it! Just look at all of the miracles he did in the Bible! He healed the sick! He changed water into wine! That PROVES that Jesus is the Lord!" Does that make sense to you? Imagine that someone, today, were to come up to you and say, "I am God, and I will prove that I am God by healing the sick and turning water into wine!" What would you say? Be honest. You would not believe this person because:

Everyone has seen all sorts of "faith healers" who can "heal" the sick. And we all know that this sort of "healing" is quackery. If it were true, then we would not need doctors, hospitals or prescription medicines.
Turning water into wine... Doesn't that sound like something that a B-grade David-Copperfield-wannabe magician would do in a nightclub act? There are a dozen ways that you could stage things to make it look like water is turning into wine. There is no reason why a normal person would accept a magic trick as proof that someone is God.
Neither of these miracles can be scientifically tested today. Not one of Jesus' miracles left any tangible evidence for scientists to study.

John 20:28-29 "Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed." Do you need proof for everything in life? If someone came up to you and said his sister had a baby, you're saying that you would not believe till you saw the baby yourself? That's a little sad then man. All it takes is a little faith. That's what the Bible is based off of.

 

[hokagenaruto1]

Your comment is the most stupid thing I have ever read, if he knows what I am going to do, than why not just put me in heaven or hell right now as he knows what I will do in 40 years anyways." how can he judge me after only seeing me for around 60 to 90 years" yet you replay with " You probably judge people every day", ME judging has nothing to do with God.Also how can he know me before I exist? Unless you are saying he made me than sent me down to earth? Or is it just magic?

You do have free will don't you? That's one of the best gifts you've been given. God wants to see what you will do with that free will. Life is basically just a test. He gave free will because without free will you cannot love. A puppet cannot love it's master because it is not free to do so. He could force you to love him but that's not real love. God is, was, and always will be. He is all knowing and he is omnipotent but he wants to give you a chance. That's like saying that a police officer knows a crackhead will do crack so why doesn't he just put him in jail then?

 

[hokagenaruto1]

I can't with this guy he's so delusional.

Am I? Or are you just lacking in faith?

 

[Mypower]

John 20:28-29 "Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed." Do you need proof for everything in life? If someone came up to you and said his sister had a baby, you're saying that you would not believe till you saw the baby yourself? That's a little sad then man. All it takes is a little faith. That's what the Bible is based off of.

You're honestly an idiot log out now.

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[Sapiens Sequax Sex Semita]

You're honestly an idiot log out now.

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I cant handle the circular and or delusional logic either bro not worth the effort.

 

[Mypower]

I cant handle the circular and or delusional logic either bro not worth the effort.

I know some people are just delusional but that's just life.

 

[Lightbringer]

I find it ironic how people keep saying religion is constantly imposed on them and believers are obnoxious. Yet atheists berate religious views and try to disprove something that can't either be proved or disproved. It's like two halves of the same coin.

Whatever your beliefs are, it's a personal view, respect it. Religious or not, rudeness has no exception.

 

[hokagenaruto1]

Atheists are very illogical individuals, They only lie to them selves so that they can sin and not think twice about it. They want to have *** freely,lie to help them in life and so on. I think deep down they know God exists but can't get them selves to come to terms as they don't want to give up sin. I pray for their souls

 

[Mypower]

Atheists are very illogical individuals, They only lie to them selves so that they can sin and not think twice about it. They want to have *** freely,lie to help them in life and so on. I think deep down they know God exists but can't get them selves to come to terms as they don't want to give up sin. I pray for their souls

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So you're now placing us into a group of illogical people. You believe in a God that has a plan,despite the proof of his existence.
GTFO and stop talking you idiot.

 

[hokagenaruto1]

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So you're now placing us into a group of illogical people. You believe in a God that has a plan,despite the proof of his existence.
GTFO and stop talking you idiot.

How do you believe that the Earth and the Universe and humans and all life came to be? Tell me sir please.

 

[Mypower]

How do you believe that the Earth and the Universe and humans and all life came to be? Tell me sir please.

You're a bit redundant sir at bold. "If the universe began as a singularity (which I'll clarify in a little while), then it's subject to the physics of quantum mechanics. In quantum mechanics, the time/energy uncertainty principal allows for small fluctuations in the energy of a quantum mechanical system for an extremely short amount of time, so it seemingly "breaks" the law of conservation of energy. This is what allows for nuclear decay to happen, and it plays a crucial role in quantum tunnelling, which is what makes the transistors in your computer work.

Also, empty space isn't "nothing" since there's underlying energy in empty space.

The classical big bang theory only explains how the universe used to be very small, but the singularity of the big bang is an extension of the classical big bang theory that delves further back to the beginning of the universe (even though this "beginning" might not actually be the very beginning). This isn't a complete hypothesis because there's no complete theory of quantum gravity yet in physics, but it's perfectly consistent with the laws of physics to say that the universe can come from nothing. In fact, the energy required to create a universe from "nothing" is extremely small, or zero if there are certain symmetries of energy in the universe.

Although I should mention that the universe coming from a quantum fluctuation is only a hypothesis, it doesn't have any experimental evidence yet. Don't confuse the big bang theory with this hypothesis."

Also, the rest of your question is a non sequitur. Even if the universe was a caused by something "supernatural" (which there's no evidence for), it doesn't necessarily have to be omnipotent, omniscient, etc. It just has to be able to create a universe, that's all.