[Theory] Why did Black Zetsu need Infinite Tsukuyomi????

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QUESTION: Why *EXACTLY* did Black Zetsu need to invoke Infinite TSukuyomi to bring back Kaguya?

He had two other options:
1. So we have Outer Path: Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique = Rinne Tensei means "the circle of transmigration" - [per

AND

2. The Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation is a forbidden technique where, using a living person as a vessel, a deceased person's soul can be called back to the world of the living and bound to it.


Either of those could have brought her back. He had access to both.

Conclusion: He didn't! Black Zetsu is a Lying Liar.

In fact - If you look at How Kaguya was brought back . . . it looks alot like Impure World Reincarnation - Using Madara's new body to do it. [i.e. his body is remade into Kaguya's image]

The only thing I can think of is: HE did not have any of Kaguya's original DNA or body.

So, Are we to beleive, Infinite Tsukuyomi = Impure World Reincarnation that required direct genetic material from their descendents [in this case needed the two side of her descendent because he did not have any of the Hamura's or Hagoromo's DNA ]?

THEORY: Black Zetsu is not looking to revive his mother. He is trying to revive HER BODY. He wants her body for himself. He is not unlike Orochimaru. He wants the most powerful body he can possess. [he seems always bonded with another body either a White Zetsu/Obito/Madara/etc]

Kaguya now is ACTING LIKE A EDO - she does not seem to have free will. She seems as much controled by Black Zetsu as the EDO's were by Kabuto. She has her own emotions but no free will.

I think Infinite Tsukuyomi is the method to get all the Chakra from the Ninjas around the area.
I think he used Impure World Reincarnation - on Madara to convert his body to KAguya.
I think he used Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique [Rinnegan needed for this] - to make her body real

Then he took possession of it while it is now drawing all the Chakra to him.
his true END GAME - Self Empowerment.

The question comes back to WHO IS HE?
Answer - The Tree itself - With a New body to participate in the world and make sure no one else ever gets its fruit again.

Just a Theory to mull over until the next chapter
 

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Madara needed to awaken the third eye for Kaguya to be revived. That's where IT comes up.
 

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So he could bring back Kaguya with all the stolen chakra
 

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You really need to learn how to read btw. Cause it's literally stated in the manga
 

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Didn't read, but to use the chakra of all the people sealed.
 

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You really need to learn how to read btw. Cause it's literally stated in the manga

Stated by a well known liar and power broker.

The point is .. . the IT was not needed to bring back Kaguya . . but to connect to the 'stolen' Chakra.
 

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Kaguya needed the Chakra stolen from all of the people caught within Infinite Tsukuyomi in order to become revived.
 

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Well, her soul or DNA was not present and he did not posse Rinngen, so it's unknown if he could revive her. Only thing Kaguya left to the World of Shinobi was her will which lived on through Black Zetsu. Black Zetsu found that opportunity to use Madara as a vessel to eventually revive her.
 

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COS BACK IN KAGUYA'S, HAGOROMO CHILDHOOD TIME. THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS NINSHU. IT WAS ONLY BEEN MADE AFTER HAGOROMO HAS HIS TWO SONS. SINCE THERES NO WAY THAT BLACK ZETSU CAN GET HER DNA. HE CANT SUMMONED KAGUYA. And SINCE MADARA MADE HIS OWN RINNEGAN (NOT IMPLANTED LIKE MADRA DID TO NAGATO) THERES NO WAY HE CAN REVIVE HER. EITHER WAY SAMSARA OR EDO TENSEI IS 100% WRONG SHT. AND THE POINT TO THIS INFINITE TSUKOYOMI, IS THAT KAGUYA COULD POSSESS THE MOST POWERFUL BODY AFTER HIS REVIVAL, OR TO REVIVE HER YOU MUST NEED BOTH OF UCHIHA, SENJU,RINNEGAN, THE JUUBI ALL AT ONCE. BUT STILL THE THING THAT YOU SAID IS DEFINETELY WONT WORK
 

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correct me if im wrong. Kaguya wasn't dead..she was locked away, she needed lots of chakra to be revived, that's were IT comes in.

you cant revive someone from the dead who isn't dead.
 

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correct me if im wrong. Kaguya wasn't dead..she was locked away, she needed lots of chakra to be revived, that's were IT comes in.

you cant revive someone from the dead who isn't dead.
I'm rowing with this.
 

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QUESTION: Why *EXACTLY* did Black Zetsu need to invoke Infinite TSukuyomi to bring back Kaguya?

He had two other options:
1. So we have Outer Path: Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique = Rinne Tensei means "the circle of transmigration" - [per

AND

2. The Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation is a forbidden technique where, using a living person as a vessel, a deceased person's soul can be called back to the world of the living and bound to it.


Either of those could have brought her back. He had access to both.

Conclusion: He didn't! Black Zetsu is a Lying Liar.

In fact - If you look at How Kaguya was brought back . . . it looks alot like Impure World Reincarnation - Using Madara's new body to do it. [i.e. his body is remade into Kaguya's image]

The only thing I can think of is: HE did not have any of Kaguya's original DNA or body.

So, Are we to beleive, Infinite Tsukuyomi = Impure World Reincarnation that required direct genetic material from their descendents [in this case needed the two side of her descendent because he did not have any of the Hamura's or Hagoromo's DNA ]?

THEORY: Black Zetsu is not looking to revive his mother. He is trying to revive HER BODY. He wants her body for himself. He is not unlike Orochimaru. He wants the most powerful body he can possess. [he seems always bonded with another body either a White Zetsu/Obito/Madara/etc]

Kaguya now is ACTING LIKE A EDO - she does not seem to have free will. She seems as much controled by Black Zetsu as the EDO's were by Kabuto. She has her own emotions but no free will.

I think Infinite Tsukuyomi is the method to get all the Chakra from the Ninjas around the area.
I think he used Impure World Reincarnation - on Madara to convert his body to KAguya.
I think he used Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique [Rinnegan needed for this] - to make her body real

Then he took possession of it while it is now drawing all the Chakra to him.
his true END GAME - Self Empowerment.

The question comes back to WHO IS HE?
Answer - The Tree itself - With a New body to participate in the world and make sure no one else ever gets its fruit again.

Just a Theory to mull over until the next chapter

Its pretty obvious. I think you need to start reading the chapters instead of just skimming through them. Kaguya is a part of the holy tree, she needed all chakra to become one to be revived. Which is exactly what I.T. does. I doubt zetsu has been lying about anything honestly
 

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QUESTION: Why *EXACTLY* did Black Zetsu need to invoke Infinite TSukuyomi to bring back Kaguya?

He had two other options:
1. So we have Outer Path: Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique = Rinne Tensei means "the circle of transmigration" - [per

AND

2. The Summoning: Impure World Reincarnation is a forbidden technique where, using a living person as a vessel, a deceased person's soul can be called back to the world of the living and bound to it.


Either of those could have brought her back. He had access to both.

Conclusion: He didn't! Black Zetsu is a Lying Liar.

In fact - If you look at How Kaguya was brought back . . . it looks alot like Impure World Reincarnation - Using Madara's new body to do it. [i.e. his body is remade into Kaguya's image]

The only thing I can think of is: HE did not have any of Kaguya's original DNA or body.

So, Are we to beleive, Infinite Tsukuyomi = Impure World Reincarnation that required direct genetic material from their descendents [in this case needed the two side of her descendent because he did not have any of the Hamura's or Hagoromo's DNA ]?

THEORY: Black Zetsu is not looking to revive his mother. He is trying to revive HER BODY. He wants her body for himself. He is not unlike Orochimaru. He wants the most powerful body he can possess. [he seems always bonded with another body either a White Zetsu/Obito/Madara/etc]

Kaguya now is ACTING LIKE A EDO - she does not seem to have free will. She seems as much controled by Black Zetsu as the EDO's were by Kabuto. She has her own emotions but no free will.

I think Infinite Tsukuyomi is the method to get all the Chakra from the Ninjas around the area.
I think he used Impure World Reincarnation - on Madara to convert his body to KAguya.
I think he used Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique [Rinnegan needed for this] - to make her body real

Then he took possession of it while it is now drawing all the Chakra to him.
his true END GAME - Self Empowerment.

The question comes back to WHO IS HE?
Answer - The Tree itself - With a New body to participate in the world and make sure no one else ever gets its fruit again.

Just a Theory to mull over until the next chapter

You cannot bring back to life what isn't dead.
She never died, she was sealed away and split into the 9 bijuus... bringing back the ten tails was putting her back together and the chakra gained from IT was the power needed to break her seal.
It isn't that complicated
 

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kaguya was the juubi. obito created a new shinju. kaguya was in it. madara absorbed the shinju. IT was used to take all chakra back. chakra went into madara. i think the new fruit was born from madaras body and became kaguya. idk.
 

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correct me if im wrong. Kaguya wasn't dead..she was locked away, she needed lots of chakra to be revived, that's were IT comes in.

you cant revive someone from the dead who isn't dead.

EXCELLENT POINT!
Thank You.
IT was needed to BREAK THE SEAL!!
Needed the extra Chakra to do it.
 

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Sometimes folx get to be an ANGRY bunch over things like this. . .. i wonder why?

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They just theories and thoughts. . . . remember .. .this is suppose to be FUN and entertaining
 

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cos back in kaguya's, hagoromo childhood time. There was no such thing as ninshu. It was only been made after hagoromo has his two sons. Since theres no way that black zetsu can get her dna. He cant summoned kaguya. And since madara made his own rinnegan (not implanted like madra did to nagato) theres no way he can revive her. Either way samsara or edo tensei is 100% wrong sht. And the point to this infinite tsukoyomi, is that kaguya could possess the most powerful body after his revival, or to revive her you must need both of uchiha, senju,rinnegan, the juubi all at once. But still the thing that you said is definetely wont work

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