Nagato vs Minato (read description first)

[Touken]

Apex, when the body itself is marked, striking speed no longer plays a factor: [

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[Apêx1]

Apex, when the body itself is marked, striking speed no longer plays a factor: [

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I disagree. All of the links either were showing weakened people or potentially unaware people. Bee disagrees. Anyways, until someone can prove to me that Nagato gets marked, and cannot remove the mark by using Asura, I have no reason to debate the point of reacting to it.

 

[Touken]

I disagree. All of the links either were showing weakened people or potentially unaware people. Bee disagrees. Anyways, until someone can prove to me that Nagato gets marked, and cannot remove the mark by using Asura, I have no reason to debate the point of reacting to it.

I think Nagato wins too so I won't go into it.

 

[LuckyMan]

Alive Minato has Yin Kurama so he stomps.

 

[Oblivionx]

Incorrect. He is changing his body as a whole He is going from bones, flesh and skin to metal and an outer layering. Nagato can rip this outter layer off or replace it with more steel. Either way, he is changing his body and that will suffice in removing the mark. Lol, I see you are one of those Minato fans who don't even understand how his FTG v2 works. Teleports behind Ay but Bee reacts before Minato can strike [

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]. Tags Bee and teleports behind him but Bee has his attack ready [

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]. The FTG itself is instant, the action that occurs after it is not. If you are saying Minato strikes faster than a mere thought process, than there's nothing for me to say to you given you follow that ignorant logic. Rasengan doesn't spawn on him, nor will it ever. It is absorbed via a single thought process.

Anyways, I am no longer debating this "Minato tags him gg" concept. Once you tell me how exactly he tags him, I will proceed my counter arguments to it. Until then, there's no reason for me to argue it. Minato does

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. ST destroys the kunai's with little difficulty and CT puts them all on the rubble surrounding the core. There will be no escape from it since S/T barrier cannot be used without hand seals--which aren't executable on the way to the core. S/T barrier isn't even big enough to handle it, nor will it ever make contact with the core itself. Minato gets sucked in with no escape. He along with his bunshins gets crushed and that's that. And no, Minato can't get into close combat since he will be taking an S/T to the face, or risk getting soul ripped each time. No kunai's will ever be in Nagato's close proximity. How does Minato use Hirashin nearby Nagato when he canot even have his kunai's come within a meter radius of Nagato? He has no need to blow the bunshins alone away, he blows Minato, the bunshins and the nearby kunais away. And no, they are not. ST assures that no kunai's are ever in the surrounding radius whether it be

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. AOE kunai's are now 100's of meters away, or nearby kunai's are km's away. Either way, Minato isn't utilising them in any way bar defence (assuming he doesn't use CT right off the bat, but thar would be boring).

haha lol couldn't resist but reply.... this post was too amusing to ignore...
when did hardening body removes seals?? by that argument kakazu cannot be marked with ftg either... the thing is opponent never even knows that he's been marked with ftg until he is hit with upcoming attack... read manga, not even once opponent knew that they were marked before they were attacked once... and ashura path is armor which covers over real body mark still remains even if ashura is destroyed...
so you actually think bee reacted to ftg?? XD
lol bee anticipated ftg... that's why was praised by minato... if you think bee who was sitting quite some distance away managed to stop minato from stabbing Ay after minato used ftg lvl 2 then those have to be some godly reflexes from bee... and that would put his reactions above madara (jubi's jin or not) since madara barely reacted to ftg blitz from tobirama and minato when he wasn't even marked and bee did it without even looking while he was marked.... now answer me, do you really think bee has better reactions than madara??
minato tags him via simple taiutsu without nagato realizing it... clones can be used to avoid damage if you wanna go there...
S/T can only push kunai's away not destroy them hence can still be used... and CT pulls the kunais well that's too bad coz now clone can teleport to CT and teleport it away from nagato and real minato not like it was the only way to deal with it...
lol @bold... XD
itachi, naruto and bee fired there strongest attacks while being pulled and this guy says minato can't form handseals...
yes clone might take S/T to the face which i don't even think can happen but original will get 5 secs... nagato dies there... and for soul ripping, naruto was pushing his soul back... this tech is not even worth mentioning vs minato since he can simply ftg away... naruto with clones withstood S/T, and minato has quite a few foot speed feats as well.... ftg is only needed to utilize 5 sec interval... clones can force nagato to use S/T and original slaughters him in next 5 sec.... and as you said spread kunais are for defensive but ftg lvl 2 is for attacking....
in the end nagato has no way of winning here...
swallow it up....

 

[Apêx1]

Lol not replying to a scrub; -sorry. Don't see any viable points in your wallie. All I see is misconceptions, failing to comprehend my statements and "..." Still laughing at the Madara barely reacted.

 

[Gold Lightning]

I disagree. All of the links either were showing weakened people or potentially unaware people. Bee disagrees. Anyways, until someone can prove to me that Nagato gets marked, and cannot remove the mark by using Asura, I have no reason to debate the point of reacting to it.

Bee doesn't disagree, minato wasn't trying to kill him, he paused as soon as he teleported behind him.

 

[Apêx1]

Bee doesn't disagree, minato wasn't trying to kill him, he paused as soon as he teleported behind him.

It was clear as day in the manga that when Minato had his kunai behind Bee, Bee has his attack ready. Anyways, stop arguing this with me. Until someone makes a decent counter argument as to how Minato gets close or tags Nagato, there's nothing to debate here.

 

[Bronze]

Bee doesn't disagree, minato wasn't trying to kill him, he paused as soon as he teleported behind him.

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[Gold Lightning]

It was clear as day in the manga that when Minato had his kunai behind Bee, Bee has his attack ready. Anyways, stop arguing this with me. Until someone makes a decent counter argument as to how Minato gets close or tags Nagato, there's nothing to debate here.

after minato just finished complimenting bee and telling Ay how good of a family he had and that the next time they met they'd be fighting as kage. yeah minato was really going to kill him. Someone just showed you how once you're marked the follow up attack is instant, yet you just ignore it.

And stop telling people to stop replying to you just because you don't know how to respond.

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Yeah I have no idea what this scan is supposed to show me.

 

[Bronze]

after minato just finished complimenting bee and telling Ay how good of a family he had and that et next time they met they'd be fighting as kage. yeah minato was really going to kill him. Someone just showed you how once you're marked the follow up attack is instant, yet you just ignore it.

And stop telling people to stop replying to you just because you don't know how to respond.


Yeah I have no idea what this scan is supposed to show me.

You fallaciously claim that Minato didn't want to kill Killer Bee, but he showed no hesitation to kill Ay, his brother. And also, Killer Bee reacting to Minato from a distance.​

 

[Valhorus]

I disagree. All of the links either were showing weakened people or potentially unaware people. Bee disagrees. Anyways, until someone can prove to me that Nagato gets marked, and cannot remove the mark by using Asura, I have no reason to debate the point of reacting to it.

So what now ? Bee has better reactions than Juubi Jin Obito who didn't react 2 times against FTG ? He was aware and still got fooled by it for second time . One time is enough to do the job against Nagato .

 

[Gold Lightning]

You fallaciously claim that Minato didn't want to kill Killer Bee, but he showed no hesitation to kill Ay, his brother. And also, Killer Bee reacting to Minato from a distance.​

That was before Minatos team got the signal to retreat, his mission was over, hence why he walked away and didn't continue attacking them.

Let's not forget the compelling speech minato gave to Ay about how Ay needed to find out what was most precious to Bee. Why would minato say all that stuff to Ay about bee and then just kill him after. It's really not rocket science.

 

[Bronze]

That was before Minatos team got the signal to retreat, his mission was over, hence why he walked away and didn't continue attacking them.

Let's not forget the compelling speech minato gave to Ay about how Ay needed to find out what was most precious to Bee. Why would minato say all that stuff to Ay about bee and then just kill him after. It's really not rocket science.

Still doesn't take Bee's credit. Lets remember Nagato blitzed Bee. [

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[BenjerminGaye]

If minato touches him he wins

 

[Gold Lightning]

Still doesn't take Bee's credit. Lets remember Nagato blitzed Bee. [

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Not taking bees credit away, his reactions were top notch. My point is once you're marked like how bee was, you're pretty much dead. If minato wanted him dead, he would've been dead.

 

[Apêx1]

If minato touches him he wins

People have skipped the step of Minato closing the distance and have assumed Minato somehow touches Nagato. Anyways, since people want to be silly and ignore any omnidirectional ST's making any kunai's unviable, I will just use the CT which would end the fight instantly. Someone make a counter to CT or it's a stomp. I'm waiting to see these S/T barrier arguments which make no sense given the mechanics of the technique itself.

 

[xbreedsx]

People have skipped the step of Minato closing the distance and have assumed Minato somehow touches Nagato. Anyways, since people want to be silly and ignore any omnidirectional ST's making any kunai's unviable, I will just use the CT which would end the fight instantly. Someone make a counter to CT or it's a stomp. I'm waiting to see these S/T barrier arguments which make no sense given the mechanics of the technique itself.

Since Mobilize Nagato don't even exist, I'm not taking anything away from Minato to limit him. He got marks everywhere, he can mark anything, even the ground. Since Itachi can figure out CT weakness, there's no doubt Minato can do the same. Let CT pull his Kunai by throwing at it directly, and have his clone teleport to that Kunai to destory the core with a Rasengan.

Now since Nagato wasted his CT, and now exhausted. Minato can use another clone to approach Nagato, Nagato will use Shinra Tensei on the clone and with a 5 second interval Minato blitz Nagato, throwing a Kunai to his feet. (Minato can throw a Kunai so fast, that Nagato wouldn't react, Madara as an example) Strike Nagato and mark him.

 

[Memento Mori]

People have skipped the step of Minato closing the distance and have assumed Minato somehow touches Nagato. Anyways, since people want to be silly and ignore any omnidirectional ST's making any kunai's unviable, I will just use the CT which would end the fight instantly. Someone make a counter to CT or it's a stomp. I'm waiting to see these S/T barrier arguments which make no sense given the mechanics of the technique itself.

Chibaku Tensei is a waste of chakra for Nagato against Minato.Minato is the fastest and CT is the Slowest.Minato will just teleport that crap away.His kunai will get contact with CT and then he teleports it away and watches fun.or else he will wrap it away with his S/T Barrier

 

[Apêx1]

Since Mobilize Nagato don't even exist, I'm not taking anything away from Minato to limit him. He got marks everywhere, he can mark anything, even the ground. Since Itachi can figure out CT weakness, there's no doubt Minato can do the same. Let CT pull his Kunai by throwing at it directly, and have his clone teleport to that Kunai to destory the core with a Rasengan.

Now since Nagato wasted his CT, and now exhausted. Minato can use another clone to approach Nagato, Nagato will use Shinra Tensei on the clone and with a 5 second interval Minato blitz Nagato, throwing a Kunai to his feet. (Minato can throw a Kunai so fast, that Nagato wouldn't react, Madara as an example) Strike Nagato and mark him.

What? You make it seem as if this is your thread rofl. Mobile Nagato is the same Nagato that absorbed Bee's chakra to become mobile. So hypothetically he is existent, in this thread; he most definitely is. Marks don't matter against CT. The ground is attracted to the core. You know what's on the ground? FTG kunai's and the manually placed FTG marks you said would be used. Nice chakra usage, surely did well since using Hirashin in already burried FTG kunai's is going to help him not get crushed, right? Anyways, rasengan cannot destroy the core, are you fücking retarded? It took a TBB, FRS, and Yaasaka Magatama's destroy it. A mere rasengan will never make it smh.

He doesn't get exhausted from CT, lel. He fought the entire Konoha, used CT and then proceeded to use Rinne Tensei to revive dead people. Saying a single CT exhausts him made me laugh tbh. Anyways, it's not getting destroyed and that's that. Nagato uses ST on Minato's clone and Minato himself. That's how it goes son. You aren't fit for VS section though, after seeing that rasengan>CT argument smh.

Chibaku Tensei is a waste of chakra for Nagato against Minato.Minato is the fastest and CT is the Slowest.Minato will just teleport that crap away.His kunai will get contact with CT and then he teleports it away and watches fun.or else he will wrap it away with his S/T Barrier

No it is not. How does he teleport away. He has no reason to throw a kunai far away without intel. Any Kunai thrown after CT is initiated is attracted back to the CT centre. ANy FTG Kunai's on the floor gets attracted to the core. Where does he teleport it to? Lel. All the Kunai's are in near proximity, it would be a waste of chakra. Show me how S/T barrier can warp it away. S/T barrier doesn't move, it is in a set place. Unless CT is coming to Minato, it isn't viable. In the case xxxLegacy posts, I won't bother replying. So continue.
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