A whole lot of plot holes in the naruto manga

[xXRolex]

Sorry but everything you say is irrelevant, until you show me the manga pages that prove everything you just said. Also you're just assuming that was her foreshadowing, but I want more than you're assumption, prove to me that kishi actually meant for those things to be forshadowing of her returned. Regardless of if obito actually said DNA or not, he contradicted what itachi's filler said, because none of those filler Uchiha were shown to have had either senju DNA or power. Just because Madara ate a piece of hashirama doesn't mean he had senju power, so Madara by what obito said couldn't have preformed the izanagi. Stop saying what I'm rejecting itachi's filler, when fillers aren't even canon, but everything obito said was actually canon. So again, everything you said is irrelevant.

i like youre calmness and the style of your writing:

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Sorry but everything you say is irrelevant, until you show me the manga pages that prove everything you just said. Also you're just assuming that was her foreshadowing, but I want more than your assumption, prove to me that kishi actually meant for those things to be forshadowing of her returned.

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Regardless of if obito actually said DNA or not, he contradicted what itachi's filler said, because none of those filler Uchiha were shown to have had either senju DNA or power.

Not being shown does not mean they did not. If something is already established, it doesn't need to be repeated over and over again.

Just because Madara ate a piece of hashirama doesn't mean he had senju power, so Madara by what obito said couldn't have preformed the izanagi.

Validate it.

Stop saying what I'm rejecting itachi's filler, when fillers aren't even canon, but everything obito said was actually canon. So again, everything you said is irrelevant.

Itachi's description of Uchiha abusing Izanagi is not a filler. It's in the manga.

 

[YOUNGGUNNO]

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Not being shown does not mean they did not. If something is already established, it doesn't need to be repeated over and over again.



Validate it.



Itachi's description of Uchiha abusing Izanagi is not a filler. It's in the manga.

Ok this is getting old, you still haven't shown anything proving what you said. 1, Madara didn't have hashirama's sage mode to heal his eye. 2, You can't be sure that the reaper, was actually foreshadowing kaguya just because they both have the same facial markings. Those other foreshadowing are barley a month old, unlike Madara's. Also another big thing is that you can't take the translation from unofficial sites like mangapanda, and try to use them as evidence, because we all know how many mistakes they've made in they're translation, I'm really getting tired of telling you that what you said was irrelevant.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Ok this is getting old, you still haven't shown anything proving what you said.

Validate it.

1, Madara didn't have hashirama's sage mode to heal his eye.

Sage mode doesn't heal and I never said it does. Hashirama's cells and clones do.

2, You can't be sure that the reaper, was actually foreshadowing kaguya just because they both have the same facial markings.

The reaper is one thing, not all the other things.

Those other foreshadowing are barley a month old, unlike Madara's.

Wrong. Black Zetsu's started at the valley of the end all the way back at the end of part 1 and continued throughout all of part 2. Lols at "a month." Kaguya was first introduced in chapter 646 at the start of September 2013. That's almost ten months ago. And Kimimaro and the Kaguya clan were introduced in the final arc of part 1, before Madara.

Also another big thing is that you can't take the translation from unofficial sites like mangapanda, and try to use them as evidence, because we all know how many mistakes they've made in they're translation, I'm really getting tired of telling you that what you said was irrelevant.

Yet you use these sites yourself. Sorry, but you can't play that card with me, especially when these translations were fixed and now match the viz ones, what's more the published ones and the canonized anime episodes. And I really don't give a flying **** whether you're tired or not. If you can't support yourself or debunk me, the only one who will remain irrelevant here is you.

 

[YOUNGGUNNO]

Validate it.



Sage mode doesn't heal and I never said it does. Hashirama's cells and clones do.



The reaper is one thing, not all the other things.



Wrong. Black Zetsu's started at the valley of the end all the way back at the end of part 1 and continued throughout all of part 2. Lols at "a month." Kaguya was first introduced in chapter 646 at the start of September 2013. That's almost ten months ago. And Kimimaro and the Kaguya clan were introduced in the final arc of part 1, before Madara.



Yet you use these sites yourself. Sorry, but you can't play that card with me, especially when these translations were fixed and now match the viz ones, what's more the published ones and the canonized anime episodes. And I really don't give a flying **** whether you're tired or not. If you can't support yourself or debunk me, the only one who will remain irrelevant here is you.

Umm how do you know I use any of those sites? Also I don't believe a word of their translations either, not until they come out officially, All I do is look at the images, and just get a general idea from the text, that's it. You haven't shown me anything to prove anything you said, like that kaguya was mentioned before Madara, or anything showing me that hashirama's cells, or the gedo statue can heal a Dojutsu that's been sealed away, or that eating someone actually gives you their DNA or powers, because if that were the case, Madara wouldn't have had to throw it up, to transplant it. Yet you're still trying to make excuses for kishi's plot holes, we were never shown anything about kaguya in part 1, I never stated anything about black zestu, which is another plot hole, how can Madara mistake kaguya's "child" or will for his own? When we actually saw black zestu come from Madara, as he stated it was like another him, but anyway how do you know if the translations were fixed? I own the actual translated copies of the manga, and there's a big difference in the translations. So again everything you said is still irrelevant. Also if you're going to be a d*ck, then there's no need for you to keep coming back to my thread, because I'm not going to reply to you anyway.

 

[Z3R01]

1st. How did Madara use izanagi, without have the required senju DNA at that time?
2nd. If Madara's right sharingan had lost it's light how was he able to not only awaken the rinnegan in both eyes, but we did we not see him with both sharingan when he fought the against alliance?
3rd. I thought EMS was eternal, never to lose its light again?​

These last few chapters kishi seems to be pulling things out of thin air, and in doing so, he's creating so many plot holes, I truly feel like Madara is a better villain the she is, after all this time we found out that Madara was the one to put everything into play, then all of the sudden, black zetsu was controlling everything behind the scenes,
REALLY! black zestu? It just seems too "out of the blue" for me. :eww:

If Kaguya was going to be the final villain, we should've had some indication before black zetsu just stabbed the main villan, or so we thought, in the chest out of nowhere, and the way Madara went out was just a horrible way for someone of his importance to go out, I really hope Madara isn't dead, Because no matter what he's still my favorite character, and is the whole reason I started liking naruto in the first place, way back when naruto, and sasuke were standing on his head, at the final valley. =D​

the manga has a lot of plot holes (to you),
NYC has a lot of POT holes.....yet we still drive there and we still read naruto...deal with it or walk

 

[xXRolex]

Having meat in your mouth doesnt give you its DNA !? what kind of logic is that..

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Umm how do you know I use any of those sites?

Because those are the only two pirated translations that come out other than Viz that virtually all other sites use and you are up to date with current events.

Also I don't believe a word of their translations either, not until they come out officially, All I do is look at the images, and just get a general idea from the text, that's it.

Then why did you ask for proof and scans?

You haven't shown me anything to prove anything you said,

I've proven it, you just won't accept it because you are a jerk. There's a large difference. And from this moment on, since you are ignoring every single thing I say, I'm going to regard you as a troll.

like that kaguya was mentioned before Madara,

The Kaguya clan was mentioned before Madara, yes.

or anything showing me that hashirama's cells,

Right, they can heal the whole rest of the body, but not the eyes. Oh wait, I linked two panels where they did heal the eyes. Try again?

or that eating someone actually gives you their DNA or powers,

Senju DNA was never once stated to be required to use Izanagi. EVER. All that was stated was you needed their chakras. The clone attached to Danzo was able to be detached, meaning it had not become a part of his being. Obito was also not completely taken over by his clone, nor was Madara. They were attachments.

because if that were the case, Madara wouldn't have had to throw it up, to transplant it.

It isn't stated he had to throw it up. Raw human flesh and blood cannot be completely digested because human metabolism rejects it. This causes them to throw it up. And Rinnegan and Izanagi are not the same things. Rinnegan is stated to require DNA. Izanagi is stated to only require chakra.

Yet you're still trying to make excuses for kishi's plot holes,

You haven't found a single plot hole yet. And I don't make excuses. I state facts and you whine about them.

we were never shown anything about kaguya in part 1,

Kaguya clan. Fact.

I never stated anything about black zestu, which is another plot hole,

Black Zetsu appeared at the end of part 1 and frequently appeared throughout part 2. Fact.

how can Madara mistake kaguya's "child" or will for his own? When we actually saw black zestu come from Madara,

No, we didn't. He put his hand on white zetsu, and black zetsu who can manipulate his form into two dimensional shapes appeared. That is all. There was no explanation on how he made him.

as he stated it was like another him, but anyway how do you know if the translations were fixed?

Because I compared them to the Viz scans and the anime translations. You may recall, it took me a while to respond back to you. If you aren't going to accept anything I link no matter what, don't ever ask for scans or proof again.

I own the actual translated copies of the manga, and there's a big difference in the translations.

Sadly, you have no means to prove that. And I believe you are lying out your teeth considering you have failed until now to elaborate on them. Furthermore, you also stated you did not read the manga until part 2.

So again everything you said is still irrelevant.

You're irrelevant.

Also if you're going to be a d*ck, then there's no need for you to keep coming back to my thread,

At least I have a ****.

because I'm not going to reply to you anyway.

Because you have no means to debunk me or support yourself.

 

[Honord Sage]

This chapter and the previous ones have ben clearing up plot holes if you pay attention.

 

[YOUNGGUNNO]

Because those are the only two pirated translations that come out other than Viz that virtually all other sites use and you are up to date with current events.



Then why did you ask for proof and scans?



I've proven it, you just won't accept it because you are a jerk. There's a large difference. And from this moment on, since you are ignoring every single thing I say, I'm going to regard you as a troll.



The Kaguya clan was mentioned before Madara, yes.



Right, they can heal the whole rest of the body, but not the eyes. Oh wait, I linked two panels where they did heal the eyes. Try again?



Senju DNA was never once stated to be required to use Izanagi. EVER. All that was stated was you needed their chakras. The clone attached to Danzo was able to be detached, meaning it had not become a part of his being. Obito was also not completely taken over by his clone, nor was Madara. They were attachments.



It isn't stated he had to throw it up. Raw human flesh and blood cannot be completely digested because human metabolism rejects it. This causes them to throw it up. And Rinnegan and Izanagi are not the same things. Rinnegan is stated to require DNA. Izanagi is stated to only require chakra.



You haven't found a single plot hole yet. And I don't make excuses. I state facts and you whine about them.



Kaguya clan. Fact.



Black Zetsu appeared at the end of part 1 and frequently appeared throughout part 2. Fact.



No, we didn't. He put his hand on white zetsu, and black zetsu who can manipulate his form into two dimensional shapes appeared. That is all. There was no explanation on how he made him.



Because I compared them to the Viz scans and the anime translations. You may recall, it took me a while to respond back to you. If you aren't going to accept anything I link no matter what, don't ever ask for scans or proof again.



Sadly, you have no means to prove that. And I believe you are lying out your teeth considering you have failed until now to elaborate on them. Furthermore, you also stated you did not read the manga until part 2.



You're irrelevant.



At least I have a ****.



Because you have no means to debunk me or support yourself.

Sorry you're still irrelevant.

Having meat in your mouth doesnt give you its DNA !? what kind of logic is that..

Exactly. He's just making up lame excuses

the manga has a lot of plot holes (to you),
NYC has a lot of POT holes.....yet we still drive there and we still read naruto...deal with it or walk

I've never been to New York, also I'm not going to just walk away, I genuinely like naruto. That's why I feel a story as good as this, shouldn't get messed up with plot holes. It should be kept straight, which would make it less confusing.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Exactly. He's just making up lame excuses

Troll harder. He was talking to you btw, but you already knew that.

I genuinely like naruto. That's why I feel a story as good as this, shouldn't get messed up with plot holes. It should be kept straight, which would make it less confusing.

You possess no concept of a plot hole.

 

[sn0wy]

maybe thats the trick we are missing......


itachi lost his light but he didnt have an EMS... Maybe when used with an EMS you don't lose the light

 

[Z3R01]

Having meat in your mouth doesnt give you its DNA !? what kind of logic is that..

the meat itself contains DNA....which can later be extracted , duplicated and used for whatever......forensic scientist grab DNA from ANYTHING including a hair sample , spit, dry dead skin...

 

[narutoblitz]

It doesn't make sense yet !== plothole. Have some faith.

Madara isn't dead, and yeah Kaguya is going to get LOLOWNED in a few chapters.

 

[xXRolex]

the meat itself contains DNA....which can later be extracted , duplicated and used for whatever......forensic scientist grab DNA from ANYTHING including a hair sample , spit, dry dead skin...

dont know why you telling me this.

Having meat in your mouth doesnt give you its DNA ! what kind of logic is that..

for all people saying izanagi could only be mastered with Senju DNA
for all people saying swallowing meat improved his izanagi

**** her right in the *****

 

[goldendookie]

Senju dna isn't required

 

[Orochimagus]

Kishimoto has set this up since the beginning. Kaguya is one of the biggest legends in their mythology so he obviously had this intent.

There has been foreshadowing such as how Hashirama noticed someone watching the fight at VOTE. You just want Kishi to flat out spell things out?