Madara owned sasuke...and even had pitty toward him thats why he asked sasuke to join his side...sasuke was still stuborn..then madara got sick and tired of sasuke and stabbed him with the sword leaving him dead....fortunately for sasuke hagoromo saved him....even after having hagoromo's powers Madara stated that he had both powers of sasuke and naruto..wich means that sasuke is fodder comparing to Madara
Madara wasn't worried about getting hit he only wanted rinnegan if you ever read the next page that cut in half is just another bug bite maybe not even that the only thing it did was slow madara down like 3 or 2 seconds
madara was worried about rinnegan more then getting hit. he's immortal everything they do was useless, unlessed they seal him.
The better question is why do *******s like you ignore context and spread hyperbolic bullshit? Madara clearly had no f-cks to give. He had to make himself vulnerable to use Kamui, and as we already know he wasn't fazed in the slightest.
I see people keep saying madara > sasuke but hasn't he already defeat madara?
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Also i don't see naruto defeating this version of madara or how he counters sasuke's shunshin, its so obvious. Right now madara is above naruto's level and sasuke is above naruto and madara.
Tell me what can naruto do against that version of madara? (even if you restrict the limbo)
No matter what he throws at him gets absorbed or countered. There is no way naruto could be madara with what he have shown, he will just be food for madara. And he won't turn into a frog if absorb senjutsu techs because he have good control over senjutsu chakra.
(1) Sasuke did not defeat Madara. He cut Madara without his Limbo (which contain some of Madara's power) while Naruto was restraining the Limbo shadow of Madara. You need to prove that Sasuke could even cut Madara with his Limbo.
(2) The chapter was focusing on Sasuke's new power, and therefore no direct confrontation occurred between Naruto and Madara.
(3) You have not shown yet a manga fact where Sasuke defeated Naruto
(4) You need to prove that Naruto has gone all out.
(5) You forget that Naruto can create anything he want from a piece of DNA (or whatever). Everybody would have been crying like baby about Naruto being Jesus if Kishi did not stop focusing on him.
Clearly, you don't make any sense, and you need to learn to reason.
Read the manga properly.
Madara was already damaged due to his fight with gai when naruto attacked him and even then he was unable to cut madara in half.
Madara absorbed the tree and become a lot more stronger yet got one shotted by sasuke. this should explain the difference in their strength to your thick brain.
HE CUT THE GOD TREE IN HALF, are you insane? Sasuke sliced through Madara and no blood came out which means it was a useless attack, one that madara not only survived but was still able to go and reclaim his rinnegan and come out the other side fully healed. Naruto cut a ****ing god tree in half.
I hope you are not suggesting that Current Sasuke's base speed is on par or greater than FTG. His Rinnegan ability from what's been shown so far allows him to teleport. When Madara was bisected, he was not paying attention because he was focused on getting his and Kakashi's eye
I like when ppl take a battle consisting of 3 ppl (2 vs 1) see one character overpower the other and act like their partner didn't help. What you're doing is creating assumptions for Sasuke based on what he and Naruto did. We don't know what would have happened had Naruto not been there so this thread is moot
Naruo was not required there at all, sasuke had complete control over the situation and he would have defeated him either way.
@bold,
so you admit sasuke overpowered madara?
k. GG .
Lol how can you judge nauto while at the end of the day he didn't even have the chance to see him all going all out. Did you see him using his new Bijuu mode because I haven't. Plus, the fact that Sasuke managed to land some hits means shit because at the end of the day, they weren't meaningful. However, when he reaches the limit of his teleportation, then we will see how well can he fight on his own. Last but least, in those two latest chapters Naruto could keep up against Kaguya in a much better way than Sasuke so based on that logic of yours Kaguya>Madara
but Sasuke> Madara
Kaguya>>Sasuke
Kaguya> Naruto
so Naruto> Sasuke.
Don't know what BS logic u used in the end and i dont even want to know.Some shit should be kept to self.
at first part,I agree though, we haven't seen naruto's full power and we also haven't seen sasuke's full power.
May be at the end of manga, naruto = sasuke , but from current feats (from what is shown in manga as of today) , Sasuke > naruto by a mile.
I would like to see how madara survives when his head is cut off and he is stabbed through the heart. Now dont come to me telling me he will regenerate his head Lol
(1) Sasuke did not defeat Madara. He cut Madara without his Limbo (which contain some of Madara's power) while Naruto was restraining the Limbo shadow of Madara. You need to prove that Sasuke could even cut Madara with his Limbo.
(2) The chapter was focusing on Sasuke's new power, and therefore no direct confrontation occurred between Naruto and Madara.
(3) You have not shown yet a manga fact where Sasuke defeated Naruto
(4) You need to prove that Naruto has gone all out.
(5) You forget that Naruto can create anything he want from a piece of DNA (or whatever). Everybody would have been crying like baby about Naruto being Jesus if Kishi did not stop focusing on him.
Clearly, you don't make any sense, and you need to learn to reason.
1. There is no need to prove that. Its already proven.
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In the image above, you can see sasuke solo'd limbo madara clone in one shot. He can easily damage limbo madara as he can see him and he can use sage's chaka to harm him.
2. Don't see how that disapproves whatever i have stated. stop wasting time.
3. There is no manga page which suggests kaguya > tonton , so it means tonton stands a chance against kaguya?
Your logic is flawed.
4. No need. We are talking about current feats.
5. and now you completely destroyed all the things you wrote earlier and also some respect from me. You are acting like a fanboy now who create some bullshit to prove a point just because you can't find manga facts.
Naruto has no such feat. (and no naruto saving gai or regenerating kakashi's eye does not prove this)
No. This thread is an attempt to clear out a misconception many NBers have in mind.
As you can see , everything i have stated is backed up with manga facts.
HE CUT THE GOD TREE IN HALF, are you insane? Sasuke sliced through Madara and no blood came out which means it was a useless attack, one that madara not only survived but was still able to go and reclaim his rinnegan and come out the other side fully healed. Naruto cut a ****ing god tree in half.
He cut the god tree in half and yet FAILED TO CUT DAMAGEDMADARA .
This alone proves his attack was not strong enough to cut madara in half.
Yet you can clearly see in the OP how sasuke cut madara (who absorbed the god tree and was at full health ) in half.
Naruto's feat is nothing if compared to sasuke's.
1) Madara wasn't recovering from Gai's attack when naruto hit him. He at first thought he was because of how powerful naruto was,
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2) Naruto was in base when he attacked madara and had to deal with madara's rinbou while Sasuke was at full power and didn't have to deal with limbo.
3) Naruto wasn't trying to kill madara, he was trying to cut the shinjuu which is why his attack was lava based and had such a massive AoE rather than a sealing jutsu, or a more concentrated one like fuuton rasenshuriken or bijuudama rasenshuriken which would be much better for taking out a singular target.
4) Naruto hasn't even shown everything he has. He's just learned that he could fly in the last chapter, he hasn't even manifested a chakra cloak.
5) Put Naruto in the same situation as Sasuke and he doesn't just cut madara in half, he disintegrates him with a bijuudama rasenshuriken or FRS.
If Sasuke cutting madara in half means he's > madara, then naruto's > madara as well since he would have done more if their positions were swapped.
Don't know what BS logic u used in the end and i dont even want to know.Some shit should be kept to self.
at first part,I agree though, we haven't seen naruto's full power and we also haven't seen sasuke's full power.
May be at the end of manga, naruto = sasuke , but from current feats (from what is shown in manga as of today) , Sasuke > naruto by a mile.
Lol I used the same shitted logic you used in the first place. You said that Sasuke is stronger than Madara and we know that Kaguya is stronger than both. Also, we saw that in these 2 latest chapters Naruto was able to keep his own against Kaguya in a mcuh better way than Sasuke so in that sense, Naruto is stronger that Sasuke based on that flawed logic of yours which you used in the beginning. And furthermore, ( I don't want to turn this conversation into a versus battle but you asked for it) when Sasuke first came to the battlefield, wasn't he shocked of naruto's prowess and wasn't him at first incapable of offering as much as naruto? If it wasn't for Naruto the whole SA would have been annihilated against Obito when they were locked in that huge barrier and even if Sasuke at thta point had managed to avoid immediate death, I would like to keep his own against Obito solo.
Lol I used the same shitted logic you used in the first place. You said that Sasuke is stronger than Madara and we know that Kaguya is stronger than both. Also, we saw that in these 2 latest chapters Naruto was able to keep his own against Kaguya in a mcuh better way than Sasuke so in that sense, Naruto is stronger that Sasuke based on that flawed logic of yours which you used in the beginning. And furthermore, ( I don't want to turn this conversation into a versus battle but you asked for it) when Sasuke first came to the battlefield, wasn't he shocked of naruto's prowess and wasn't him at first incapable of offering as much as naruto? If it wasn't for Naruto the whole SA would have been annihilated against Obito when they were locked in that huge barrier and even if Sasuke at thta point had managed to avoid immediate death, I would like to keep his own against Obito solo.
This is why i said your logic is BS. You are in delusion if you think naruto hold his own against kaguya better than sasuke and even then, that in no way proves how one of them is superior to other.
If it wasn't for sasuke, naruto would already be a victim of IT and kaguya would have already won before the fight was even started.
Your logic is severely flawed.
I don't want this conversation to turn into versus battle either so i skipped the rest part of your post Lol.
This is why i said your logic is BS. You are in delusion if you think naruto hold his own against kaguya better than sasuke and even then, that in no way proves how one of them is superior to other.
If it wasn't for sasuke, naruto would already be a victim of IT and kaguya would have already won before the fight was even started.
Your logic is severely flawed.
I don't want this conversation to turn into versus battle either so i skipped the rest part of your post Lol.
Didn't he hold his own against Kaguya better? Last time I checked, Sasuke would have fallen in lava hadn't it been for Naruto and his Susanoo turned into pieces before he even managed to land a hit, Naruto at least managed to exchange some blows. Also, wasn't Naruto the one who threw BZ out of him and Sasuke. Why Sasuke didn't do this all this time had he been able?
P.S You used flawed logic in the first place when you said that Sasuke>Naruto because he simply cut Madara without any effect, don't blame me if I followed your already flawed logic.
First I thought this guy is obviously trolling since this happened not too many weeks ago, but then I looked at your join date... You need to let your brain cool down a lil bro...
Surely you have better things to do than troll 24/7.
Sasuke could've easily cut madaras head off and it would've been over but madara got saved by plot .... Naruto hit madara when he was badly hurt and before he absorbed the tree .. Naruto couldn't defeat madara with 1 eye or 2
it's ironic that you mention what Naruto wouldn't supposedly be able to do against a Madara with 1 eye as opposed to what Sasuke would be able to do and not point out the fact that up to the moment, Naruto was the only one of the 2 that actually did significant dmg to Madara. Madara didn't sweat being bisected at all. Sasuke literally hasn't done anything significant against said Madara at all despite all of his barking about how he was going to make Madara regret having a flesh and blood body.
using this logic Sasuke lost against Ei, Gaara, and their bodyguards at the summit since he ran away from them to survive. The difference between that situation and the subject in question is that Madara had every intention to return. It was no different a situation than when he left the battlefield with Izuna and returned only moments later. Saying Madara had to run away to survive would imply Madara was afraid of Sasuke. And that is pretty freaking laughable.
it's ironic that you mention what Naruto wouldn't supposedly be able to do against a Madara with 1 eye as opposed to what Sasuke would be able to do and not point out the fact that up to the moment, Naruto was the only one of the 2 that actually did significant dmg to Madara. Madara didn't sweat being bisected at all. Sasuke literally hasn't done anything significant against said Madara at all despite all of his barking about how he was going to make Madara regret having a flesh and blood body.using this logic Sasuke lost against Ei, Gaara, and their bodyguards at the summit since he ran away from them to survive. The difference between that situation and the subject in question is that Madara had every intention to return. It was no different a situation than when he left the battlefield with Izuna and returned only moments later. Saying Madara had to run away to survive would imply Madara was afraid of Sasuke. And that is pretty freaking laughable.
It may be laughable, but it was true. He was afraid, as he knew he would lose, which is why he went to retrieve his second eye, so that he could get more power.
It may be laughable, but it was true. He was afraid, as he knew he would lose, which is why he went to retrieve his second eye, so that he could get more power.
he went to get the other Rinnegan to ensure victory, not because he was afraid. Being cautious and protecting himself from becoming overconfident with the one he had =/= him being afraid. It's pretty laughable because the only one of the 2 who actually made him wear a look of fear was Naruto, moments before the latter one shotted Madara. What you claim is hardly true.
As much as I like Sauce, that happened before Madara got the second eye and activated the Tsukuyomi. Current Sasuke is likely on par with Madara. But I think current Kaguya is the biggest threat for now.
You're bias and stupid. IF you're going to go by that logic, then naruto already destroyed madara in his normal form. Naruto had him with his magma rasengan.
This is why i said your logic is BS. You are in delusion if you think naruto hold his own against kaguya better than sasuke and even then, that in no way proves how one of them is superior to other.
If it wasn't for sasuke, naruto would already be a victim of IT and kaguya would have already won before the fight was even started.
Your logic is severely flawed.
I don't want this conversation to turn into versus battle either so i skipped the rest part of your post Lol.
Stupid, genjutsu cant affect naruto, the was stated several chapters back. Especially now that he has 9 beasts in him+he has sage mode. genjutsu is literally nullified. Stop being a fanboy, naruto saved sasuke with his black things. They're both working hard.
