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Oh you said knock down, i thought you meant as in defeating them on his own.
[VS] EMS Madara With Kurama Vs BSM Naruto & BM Minato
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Not defeat, just over power them. He even man handled them all at once:
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My point is that Hlaf of Kurama's power used as a perfect Jin >>>>>>>>> 100% Kurama, Susanoo, multiple tailed beasts etc
And this isn't even me considering the fact that Naruto has added senjutsu to his BM.
This manga already showed us plenty of times that Jinchurikis(let alone perfect ones) are stronger than Bijus themselves because they are capable to maximize the power. A Perfect Jinchuriki of even 50% of Kyubi will still be vastly stronger than Kyubi himself for the same reason. Madara gets stomped here
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Only reason Madara was able to handle Naruto and Bee before was due to Hashirama's DNA and abilities.
UchihaNagashi
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Lml... what's this bullshit. Lol
Here, half Kurama without the help of his Jinchuuriki creates a Bijuu Dama that is much larger than his body. In fact,it's even nearly as large the Bijuu Dama created by Naruto and Gyuuki.
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Even if Kurama controlled forcibly, there's no reason to believe Kurama can't create as big Bijuu Dama as normally. So if Kurama creates a big Bijuu Dama, Naruto and Minato can only put out the same amount of power unless it's strengthened with Senjutsu. But Madara also has PS that trumps them both absolutely in terms of size. They don't have feats to tank slashes, so Madara would cut them apart.
Sure they do. MAdara's slashes are only as powerful as normal bijuudamas and they only cut mountains.
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BSM NAruto and BM Minato should win mid-high diff. They don't have to beat 100% Kurama, all they have to do is kill Madara or land a contract seal on him. BSM Naruto has more firepower than 100% kurama since sennin mode
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Minato plays on the defensive by warping kyuusanoo's shurikendamas back into the beast, teleporting Naruto away from danger and blocking attacks while BSM Naruto goes offensive with the sennin mode version of
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and BSM clones firing
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through his avatar's tails.Minato and Naruto don't even have to be on the same battlefield as madara, as long as minato gets a tag on kyuusanoo, he can simply
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right into the beast at any time he wants. And he can get the tag on kyuusanoo with the help of naruto or his clones carrying a kunai and using transformation jutsu.With BM NAruto's durability feats + minato warping away attacks, teleporting naruto, while BSM Naruto gets to focus on the offensive, Kyuusanoo goes down long before Minato or Naruto go down.
And this is also supported by hype as well. In the manga, Juubito was forced to summon the tree when BM Minato, BSM Naruto w/ Tobirama as support started to fight him. And Juubito >> SM HAshirama > Kyuusanoo.
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Dude, are you really comparing a Juubi laser to PS slash? It's clearly not as focused on one point, and also doesn't cut as well. PS slash cuts. This decimates.
Wtf? Doubles the power? It didn't even scratch Kurama, nor did his regular Rasengan even hinder Madara's V1 Susano'o. So this is fanfic power level.
How are they going to manage to do that Madara lies inside his PS, which is at least twice the size of their Kyuubi cloak, and throws casually slashes here and there whenever they attempt to do that. One or two slashes is over for them.
Minato would need to use clones in order to do that. After that, there's no reason to not to believe that he can't maintain the barrier, warping 11 Bijuu Dama swords.
So how is Minato getting even close? A slash. Dead.
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1). The dash shows you don't know what barrier is and how it functions. Go learn what barrier is and then talk. Like I said, a defence needs an equal force or greater to stop an attack. Bijuu Dama and PS slash destroyed an island. It tears off Minato's barrier and kills him. Simple as that.
2). PS slash tears off Minato or Naruto's shield. [
3). Chapter 627 is where Minato leaves Konoha > chapter 630 is where Minato appears at the battlefield. Furthemore, Hiruzen says ''I take it, kunai are prepared''. Clones are irrelevant. They get killed by fire-power.
2). PS slash tears off Minato or Naruto's shield. [
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] I will need scans for the underlined. [
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]3). Chapter 627 is where Minato leaves Konoha > chapter 630 is where Minato appears at the battlefield. Furthemore, Hiruzen says ''I take it, kunai are prepared''. Clones are irrelevant. They get killed by fire-power.
The Juubi laser is focused on the AoE the size of a bijuu. A PS slash's power is distrubuted across the AoE of the sword's entire arc. Neither attacks are focused on literally a single point. Also if a PS slash was more penetrating than the juubi's laser, we wouldn't see the slash stop after just cutting a mountain, we'd see it go through one mountain, then the one behind it, and the one behind that one and so on. So if the juubi's laser has far more penetrating power than a PS slash, and BM Naruto only loses 6 of his tails when hit by the laser, then obviously he can easily block multiple slashes.
What either rasengan did to Kurama or the V1 susanoo was completely irrelevant to the point of the scans.
The point of the scan is to show that when a Chou oodama rasengan is enhanced by sennin mode, it becomes far larger and more powerful than when it's not. And therefore, that's the level in which a sennnin mode technique differs from a normal technique.
I have more scans that show how much more powerful a senjutsu is versus the same ninjutsu.
Based on what logic or reasoning is one or two slashes over for them? How is madara pulling off multiple slashes before Naruto fires off a
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How is he hitting them with a slash when Minato can just teleport naruto away from the slash while naruto charges the bijuudama? Which is why he teleports himself and naruto away when he's faced with an attack that he can't teleport. Plus, by the time Kyuusanoo fires 11 shurikendamas, Naruto would have fired a bijuudama that's far more powerful
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from clones in his tails which would easily overpower Kyuusanoo's attack and it's GG for Madara. And that's with minato just standing on the side doing nothing.clones, BM speed, use of his teleportation, the fact that he can just throw his kunai, and the fact that Madara is going to be fighting and focusing on BSM NAruto as well while defending from all of that.
And again, where in the world did you get a slash = dead?
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BSM Naruto >> Kurama
He has the same strength as kurama, with a extra strength and power enhancement by his senjutsu. Senju enhance TBB's destroy madara's susanoo.
And we have already seen how naruto can physically overpower kurama with his strength. Lets not forget about the multiple shadow clones that naruto can make that can all launch OOdama Rasenshurikens and Senju TBB's. Naruto alone can outnumber madara 10 to 1.
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Lol, coming from you....this is pretty damn ironic.
Not a feat while Madara is in control and its inside of Naruto's mind. That only shows that Madara forcibly controlling it prevents him from bringing out its true power. Please don't try and stupidly claim that Kurama is the same strength without a Jin, cause then I won't bother taking you seriously.
Bijuu with a Jin>Bijuu by itself. Not going to entertain you if you try and argue otherwise, and size is irrelevant.
@bold: What the hell? BM Naruto took the Juubi's laser, and Senjutsu increases his durability even further. Minato is just as durable as BM Naruto. Don't try and pull this "PS cuts while the laser doesn't" "Its not as focused" bullshit to try and say that PS cuts them with no effort. A LASER is focused more at one point than a sword slash anyway.
So yes, they can block PS slashes.
So yeah, spout your BS elsewhere buddy.
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Your argument only shows you don't know what the hell a Space Time Barrier is, especially since you are comparing it to a normal barrier. Everything I stated that you dashed out explains it, so unless you have a counter, I'll accept your concession as you have no reply.
Lol what the hell? Tears off a PORTAL? Lets be serious here. If you have no counter, just say so, cause that's clearly what I'm seeing here.
Wrong. S/T Barrier absorbs his Bijuu Dama. Period. Saying it tears off a PORTAL, a RIP in SPACE and TIME is only grounds for me not to take you seriously.
Even if Madara makes a clone, Minato's clone wouldn't even have to fight him, he can just get away, so its completely irrelevant.
Lol, the clones easily get away, whether its via their own speed or Naruto's strength, and then they set up markings.
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