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I'm using the kissmanga.com scans. However, the version I read on the site last night was different than what's its current version (as of when I was writing this thread).
For example, the current version has Zetsu saying that while there isn't popcorn, Naruto and Sasuke will have to stick around and watch the entertainment anyway while last night's version said that BZ says that there isn't candy but he does have the show. Also, the current version lacks BZ's claim of forming the Akatsuki. Finally, the current version has BZ mentioning that Hagoromo is able to meet Naruto and Sasuke because of the power that's inherited as being his successor while I think last night's version mentioned about being able to meet Hagoromo is dependant on the transmigrant's power.
I was able to find last night's version by doing a Google search of "naruto 681" (write it as is but sans quotes) then going to the kissmanga.com link.
Link to last night's version is using mangapanda while current versions uses ***********.
A. Madara unlocking the Rinnegan:
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As seen from ch. 606, he still has the sword wound (that arrowhead-like mark on his chest) that Hashi gave him. Since Izanagi does a resets the damage to zero, Madara shouldn't still have those wounds.
Also, if it was a Kage Bunshin, shouldn't it be that when it got dumped into that forest, it would explode? Like how when a N KB is "popped" and makes that sound, I picture the same thing for a Madara KB.
B. Madara said (ch. 606) that it was when he was bout to die that he finally unlocks the Rinnegan and also summoned the Gedo Mazou.
Here, it sounds to me like that when BZ says "he was at last able to awaken the Rinnegan", he's saying that Madara did this soon after him being dumped into that forest and this is an aged Madara years laters. Though it was an aged Madara that got the Rinnegan shortly before his death.
C. The Akatsuki being formed by BZ (According to last version):
The possible inconsistency: To me, this claim is very ambiguous. If we are to the terrorist version, then BZ and Obito created this version. However, if we are referring to the Akatsuki in all its versions, then Yahiko is the founder because he gave the organization its name and wanted it to have it as an organization that fought against their village being
D. Regarding Hagoromo not knowing BZ's plan(s):
The possible inconsistency: Unless he was referring to Hagoromo not being aware of BZ's plan to revive Kaguya, BZ could very well be exhibiting some ignorance here. That is, I doubt BZ's aware of, as Hagoromo said Gamamaru had predicted, that a "mischievious blue-eyed boy who calls out the names of the nine beasts" (see ch. 671). With this, unless he hears Sasuke and Naruto mention it, I don't think he's aware that Gamamaru foretold of Naruto becoming the true Hagoromo successor.
With the above, when Hagoromo was living in the human world, I think with as much wisdom and power as him would be aware that there would be those that would want to revive Kaguya.
The possible inconsistency: When Hagoromo mentions about the successors leaving hints on awakening the Rinnegan because they anticipated that there would be a family that did awaken it, he may have hinted at the possibility of him being aware of the desire to revive Kaguya. That is, he may have been alluding to that those with the Rinnegan can revive Kaguya.
In ch. 671, Hagoromo says that Indra's successor is using the Juubi to gain Kaguya-level power. With this, maybe Hagoromo also meant that Madara wanted to revive Kaguya.
To me. that "mother's will" part meant that Kaguya/Juubi wanted her sons to use her chakra to fight and carry on her legacy. In that Hagoromo formed Ninshuu, maybe he knew Kaguya wanted this to happen, however, he wanted to use chakra to use for peace instead of violence.
Some theories: Because he hasn't been shown to have the Rinnegan other than when he invades the bodies of those that do, I don't think he redid all of the text. Also, with the way the tablet is chipped, I think that it had more pieces with more text (including on how to reseal Kaguya).
Since Hagoromo might not have known how long he'd wait until Naruto was born, I think that trained his sons to be the successors and they train their successors until then.
Naruto's last words with Kaguya: "You have no idea who you're dealing with, Naruto! You may have Indra's chakra but your are not Indra himself. Now that Sasuke and your friends are fallen, my only obstacle is you" Kaguya said.
Naruto angrily said, "You're wrong, Kaguya! You have no idea who you're doing with. It's me and the bijuu that will take you down. Even if my friends are down, they're still with me in spirit. Plus, there's something that even you and the Juubi should fear!"
With her obvious arrogance and ignorance, Kaguya said, "What could a goddess who is the first human to use chakra possibly fear?"
Naruto said, "I was chosen to be your son's true successor. When the Sage was still alive, the Great Toad Sage prophesied that there would be someone that would lead bring about a great shinobi change and that person is me! If it means that I have to defeat you and the Juubi, then so be it!"
Kaguya said, "To do that, you will have to defeat the power of the person who is beyond the Juubi itself!"
Then Kaguya felt something that she likely didn't foresee. This young boy was emitting great aura that continued to intensify. It's color was as orange as Kurama. Other than the Juubi and Hagoromo, she's never felt such an intense presence. A fierce overwhelming sensation is the only way to truly describe this sensation. It was so overwhelming that Kagura felt a sweat drop from her cheek. What was this sensation?
Naruto said, "I know you and the Juubi can feel this intense sensation! This is the Will of Fire embodied".
For example, the current version has Zetsu saying that while there isn't popcorn, Naruto and Sasuke will have to stick around and watch the entertainment anyway while last night's version said that BZ says that there isn't candy but he does have the show. Also, the current version lacks BZ's claim of forming the Akatsuki. Finally, the current version has BZ mentioning that Hagoromo is able to meet Naruto and Sasuke because of the power that's inherited as being his successor while I think last night's version mentioned about being able to meet Hagoromo is dependant on the transmigrant's power.
I was able to find last night's version by doing a Google search of "naruto 681" (write it as is but sans quotes) then going to the kissmanga.com link.
Link to last night's version is using mangapanda while current versions uses ***********.
A. Madara unlocking the Rinnegan:
I'm using this post
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post as a reference.
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As seen from ch. 606, he still has the sword wound (that arrowhead-like mark on his chest) that Hashi gave him. Since Izanagi does a resets the damage to zero, Madara shouldn't still have those wounds.
Also, if it was a Kage Bunshin, shouldn't it be that when it got dumped into that forest, it would explode? Like how when a N KB is "popped" and makes that sound, I picture the same thing for a Madara KB.
B. Madara said (ch. 606) that it was when he was bout to die that he finally unlocks the Rinnegan and also summoned the Gedo Mazou.
You must be registered for see images
Here, it sounds to me like that when BZ says "he was at last able to awaken the Rinnegan", he's saying that Madara did this soon after him being dumped into that forest and this is an aged Madara years laters. Though it was an aged Madara that got the Rinnegan shortly before his death.
C. The Akatsuki being formed by BZ (According to last version):
The possible inconsistency: To me, this claim is very ambiguous. If we are to the terrorist version, then BZ and Obito created this version. However, if we are referring to the Akatsuki in all its versions, then Yahiko is the founder because he gave the organization its name and wanted it to have it as an organization that fought against their village being
D. Regarding Hagoromo not knowing BZ's plan(s):
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The possible inconsistency: Unless he was referring to Hagoromo not being aware of BZ's plan to revive Kaguya, BZ could very well be exhibiting some ignorance here. That is, I doubt BZ's aware of, as Hagoromo said Gamamaru had predicted, that a "mischievious blue-eyed boy who calls out the names of the nine beasts" (see ch. 671). With this, unless he hears Sasuke and Naruto mention it, I don't think he's aware that Gamamaru foretold of Naruto becoming the true Hagoromo successor.
With the above, when Hagoromo was living in the human world, I think with as much wisdom and power as him would be aware that there would be those that would want to revive Kaguya.
You must be registered for see images
The possible inconsistency: When Hagoromo mentions about the successors leaving hints on awakening the Rinnegan because they anticipated that there would be a family that did awaken it, he may have hinted at the possibility of him being aware of the desire to revive Kaguya. That is, he may have been alluding to that those with the Rinnegan can revive Kaguya.
In ch. 671, Hagoromo says that Indra's successor is using the Juubi to gain Kaguya-level power. With this, maybe Hagoromo also meant that Madara wanted to revive Kaguya.
You must be registered for see images
To me. that "mother's will" part meant that Kaguya/Juubi wanted her sons to use her chakra to fight and carry on her legacy. In that Hagoromo formed Ninshuu, maybe he knew Kaguya wanted this to happen, however, he wanted to use chakra to use for peace instead of violence.
Some theories: Because he hasn't been shown to have the Rinnegan other than when he invades the bodies of those that do, I don't think he redid all of the text. Also, with the way the tablet is chipped, I think that it had more pieces with more text (including on how to reseal Kaguya).
Since Hagoromo might not have known how long he'd wait until Naruto was born, I think that trained his sons to be the successors and they train their successors until then.
Naruto's last words with Kaguya: "You have no idea who you're dealing with, Naruto! You may have Indra's chakra but your are not Indra himself. Now that Sasuke and your friends are fallen, my only obstacle is you" Kaguya said.
Naruto angrily said, "You're wrong, Kaguya! You have no idea who you're doing with. It's me and the bijuu that will take you down. Even if my friends are down, they're still with me in spirit. Plus, there's something that even you and the Juubi should fear!"
With her obvious arrogance and ignorance, Kaguya said, "What could a goddess who is the first human to use chakra possibly fear?"
Naruto said, "I was chosen to be your son's true successor. When the Sage was still alive, the Great Toad Sage prophesied that there would be someone that would lead bring about a great shinobi change and that person is me! If it means that I have to defeat you and the Juubi, then so be it!"
Kaguya said, "To do that, you will have to defeat the power of the person who is beyond the Juubi itself!"
Then Kaguya felt something that she likely didn't foresee. This young boy was emitting great aura that continued to intensify. It's color was as orange as Kurama. Other than the Juubi and Hagoromo, she's never felt such an intense presence. A fierce overwhelming sensation is the only way to truly describe this sensation. It was so overwhelming that Kagura felt a sweat drop from her cheek. What was this sensation?
Naruto said, "I know you and the Juubi can feel this intense sensation! This is the Will of Fire embodied".
