[Theory] Hamura inherited his mother byakugan

[Cael]

Because they're powers don't match remember back wen madara said people's memories fade over time no one in this era though about that hell who thought the uchiha and senju were one clan until madara read the templet

well indra and ashura powers don't match are you saying that they are not really brothers ? do you understand how dumb you guys sounds

 

[HouKage]

If the uzumaki clan came from senju's, how can it be possible be that hamura is creator of the uzumaki's.

It's never stated it is a branch
it is stated they are distant cousins . . . like from TWO BROTHERS?

 

[Cael]

It's never stated it is a branch
it is stated they are distant cousins . . . like from TWO BROTHERS?

I am not sure what your trying to say exactly.
the manga never said distant cousins it said distant blood relatives

 

[sexywave]

that does not make no sense at all, you trying to put 1 sibling from hagoromo side with 1 sibling from hamura side and calling them distant cousins.

do you do that with your family, are you saying that the other child in this case who is an uchiha is not cousin with the uzumaki.
are you forgetting that both ashura and indra are brothers.

what you guys are doing is putting power with powers and calling it family. indra and ashura have both different powers but they were brothers.

besides it never said cousins, we are just using that as an example .it says distant blood relatives

i said there cousins cause once indra and ashura have kids those become cousins like the other brother too so enventually they all become cousin clans in the end them having and going down the blood lines makes them cousins end the end like i said.

 

[Cael]

i said there cousins cause once indra and ashura have kids those become cousins like the other brother too so enventually they all become cousin clans in the end them having and going down the blood lines makes them cousins end the end like i said.

if they were all cousin like you said why was it only mention that they were blood related to senju only.

 

[Trance]

Even in the manga theres a scan of Kushina saying to naruto that the Uzumaki and the Senju are distant relatives... and Hamura is the one that had sealed Kaguya into Hago which could compensate of the Uzumaki's known seals and how they had very strong seals... All in all i would pretty much say

Hago: Senju Uchicha
Hamura: Hyuuga Uzumaki
so yeah i pretty much agree.

 

[Cael]

Even in the manga theres a scan of Kushina saying to naruto that the Uzumaki and the Senju are distant relatives... and Hamura is the one that had sealed Kaguya into Hago which could compensate of the Uzumaki's known seals and how they had very strong seals... All in all i would pretty much say

Hago: Senju Uchicha
Hamura: Hyuuga Uzumaki
so yeah i pretty much agree.

your only putting them together because of powers. And beside didn't you read the latest chapter ? both hagoromo and his brother hamura sealed their mother.

 

[Cael]

your only putting them together because of powers. And beside didn't you read the latest chapter ? both hagoromo and his brother hamura sealed their mother.

Alright then. please tell me how
you think

senju are more related to uzumaki than uchiha being related to uzumaki's.
the both came from one of each brother so please, I wish someone on here will tell me how they are more related.


because all you guys are doing is comparing each brothers power to each other and then saying one is more related to another because they have simlarties.

but I can 100% bet if you took away senju uzumaki hyuga and uchiha, if you took away there powers I can bet you guys would be saying that they each are equally related to one another.

 

[Trance]

your only putting them together because of powers. And beside didn't you read the latest chapter ? both hagoromo and his brother hamura sealed their mother.

Sorry they both did and yes im going to go off what i know through the Manga by powers as to me it seems more logical , Since thats pretty much implied throughout the whole manga.

edit: I dont really have an answer as to why Uzumaki are even related to Uchicha but it was stated in the scan that Uzumaki and Senju are some how related..

 

[Honord Sage]

I makes sense:

Hagoromo -> Senju and Uchiha clans.

Hamura -> Hyuga clan.

And Uzumaki Clan, its consistent that each brother pass eye powers to one son and the body power to the other. Uchiha,Hyuga the eye,Senju,Uzumaki the Body.

 

[Cael]

Sorry they both did and yes im going to go off what i know through the Manga by powers as to me it seems more logical , Since thats pretty much implied throughout the whole manga.

base on your logic Ashura and Indra are not really brothers considering they both have different powers.

 

[Honord Sage]

if they were all cousin like you said why was it only mention that they were blood related to senju only.

If you have Fridley relation with a cousin who has a brother who is at war with His brother you're not going to be fridley with the cousin now are you?

 

[Trance]

base on your logic Ashura and Indra are not really brothers considering they both have different powers.

You understand that yes they are brothers and clans are distance relatives but look Senju and Uchicha are related technically but what im saying is with Hamura he was known for the sealing and its likely he also has the power passed down to the Uzumaki where as the byakugan to the Hyuuga but if you really want to get TECHNICAL then yes the clans would be tied in some form because of their family bloodline since Hamura is their uncle..

 

[Cael]

If you have Fridley relation with a cousin who has a brother who is at war with His brother you're not going to be fridley with the cousin now are you?

so are you saying that kishimoto only mention that they are related to senju because the uchiha and the senju are at war. but not by the very fact that one of them have the same blood running trough there vein and the other don't ?

 

[sexywave]

I am not sure what your trying to say exactly.
the manga never said distant cousins it said distant blood relatives

distant blood relatives are cousins and if not what are they then uncles nephews aunts granparents, its more likely there cousins who over time became less related to each other unless they mated with each other which unlikely.

 

[Cael]

You understand that yes they are brothers and clans are distance relatives but look Senju and Uchicha are related technically but what im saying is with Hamura he was known for the sealing and its likely he also has the power passed down to the Uzumaki where as the byakugan to the Hyuuga but if you really want to get TECHNICAL then yes the clans would be tied in some form because of their family bloodline since Hamura is their uncle..

But your Missing the most important fact here. the manga never said that the uzumaki were distant blood relatives to the uchiha, they never said that. and here your agreeing that they are. the manga only stated that the uzumaki are distant blood relatives to the senju clan. so how can they be distant relatives to the senju clan, and the hyuga's are not ?

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Hamura was not known for anything, because nothing was said about hamura,except that him and his brother sealed there mother, your just guessing things atm, the only thing that hamura possessed that you can say he might have passed down was the byakugan

 

[Cael]

distant blood relatives are cousins and if not what are they then uncles nephews aunts granparents, its more likely there cousins who over time became less related to each other unless they mated with each other which unlikely.

distant blood relatives could mean anything
There is another possibility here that none of you are thinking of

the senju clan didn't only breed with senju, the also breed with another clan, and thus the uzumaki clan came into existence.
with this the senju blood would still run in the veins of this newly bred clan.

 

[Honord Sage]

so are you saying that kishimoto only mention that they are related to senju because the uchiha and the senju are at war. but not by the very fact that one of them have the same blood running trough there vein and the other don't ?

Blood of Kaguya runs in The Senju,Uchiha,Uzumaki and Hyuga. If you have fight with your Father and don't want to do anything with Him but Your sister agrees with your Father and takes His side,dose not that put a strain on you Sister,brother relationship? Remember this Chapter revealed that Black Zetsu soured the relationship between the two Brothers and the Clans that followed.

 

[sexywave]

But your Missing the most important fact here. the manga never said that the uzumaki were distant blood relatives to the uchiha, they never said that. and here your agreeing that they are. the manga only stated that the uzumaki are distant blood relatives to the senju clan. so how can they be distant relatives to the senju clan, and the hyuga's are not ?

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Hamura was not known for anything, because nothing was said about hamura,except that him and his brother sealed there mother, your just guessing things atm, the only thing that hamura possessed that you can say he might have passed down was the byakugan

uchia and senju are related from the sage kids the uzumaki clan is said to be related to senju they the power of the body llike senju ,from this point there you can see they are connected to uchia how can they be related to senju and not uchia when both senju and uchia came from same father.

 

[Cael]

i just don't understand and maybe I won't ever will. How can uzumaki from the hamura side suddenly became senju lineage.