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It is not lies. I said humans do bad things, you said not every HUMAN is like that meaning not every human does the things I Listed,I than asked if the good humans you speak of do those things. What part did I "Lie" about?
by Lie i meant that you were twisting my words... but i now realise that i misread your Comment i am sorry for making that mistake, and to answer your question yes there are Humans that have never done any of those things but i will say that every Human is flawed in one way or another what those are depends on the type of Person a Human is.
 

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Well to qoute you " You can't argue with facts"

And as to how I can say that abot other human being. It's simple, because I can.

Also to me "qouting Itachi" I merely made a statement that holds the same values as his qoute.
let me give you examples of what Facts are, it's a Fact that if you touch fire that you wil get burned and injured, it's a Fact that in order to keep on living you have take care of and maintain your body by eating, drinking, sleeping, using the bathroom and taking showers regularly, it's a Fact that Humans can die in all sorts of ways like dying of old age and dying from an injury or from an illness, it's a Fact that Humans get sexually aroused by other Humans that they are sexually attracted to, i think that's all i can think of for right now anyway now do you understand my point?
 
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let me give you examples of what Facts are, it's a Fact that if you touch fire that you wil get burned and injured, it's a Fact that in order to keep on living you have take care of and maintain your body by eating, drinking, sleeping, using the bathroom and taking showers regularly, it's a Fact that Humans can die in all sorts of ways like dying of old age and dying from an injury or from an illness, it's a Fact that Humans get sexually aroused by other Humans that they are sexually attracted to, i think that's all i can think of for right now anyway now do you understand my point?

And thus it's a fact the Genghis Khan killed so many people that it lowered the carbon dioxide levels of the planet.
 

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And thus it's a fact the Genghis Khan killed so many people that it lowered the carbon dioxide levels of the planet.
you say that it's a Fact Genghis Khan lowered the Carbon Dioxide Level by committing Genocide... but where's the Evidence? by the way it's still a Fact that Genocide is a Crime against Humanity.
 
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you say that it's Genghis Khan lowered the Carbon Dioxide Level by committing Genocide... but where's the Evidence? by the way it's still a Fact that Genocide is a Crime against Humanity.

If you want prove then

Also do you think the people who inflict genocide share your belief that it's a fact?
 

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If you want prove then

Also do you think the people who inflict genocide share your belief that it's a fact?
so Trees absorb Carbon Dioxide huh? to tell you the truth i never knew that but i guess that's because my old teachers never attempted to teach me a lot things when it comes to Science when i was still going to School and even if Genghis Khan's Horrible Crimes did help the Earth that still doesn't change the Fact that his Actions are Unjustifiable, also when it comes to Horrible Things like Rape Murder and Genocide it's a Fact that these are Crimes and it's also a Fact that no one has a right to commit these Horrible Crimes or any other Crime for that matter, also it doesn't matter what those Criminals who commit these Awful Crimes think Facts are what truly matter and Facts are Universal Truths that's why no one can argue with Facts.
 
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so Trees absorb Carbon Dioxide huh? to tell you the truth i never knew that but i guess that's because my old teachers never attempted to teach me a lot things when it comes to Science when i was still going to School, also when it comes to Horrible Things like Rape Murder and Genocide it a Fact that these are Crimes and it's also a Fact that no one has a right to commit these Horrible Crimes or any other Crime for that matter, also it doesn't matter what those Criminals who commit these Awful Crimes think Facts are what truly matter and Facts are Universal Truths that's why no one can argue with Facts.

Universal truths?

It use to be a universal truth that the world was flat.

It use to be a universal truth that slavery was the norm.

It use be the universal truth that killing in the name of God or some other religious deity was fine.

People challenged these universal truths and argue against the "Facts" and thus new "Facts" were born because of it.

Truths and facts are in a constant state of flux.

What was true three hundred years ago is considered wrong today.

Likewise something we consider true today could be wrong three hundred years from now.

Facts will always be argued because humans are not united in agreement.

There is not one thing all six billion of us agree on and be called a universal truth of fact.

You're merely using the majority rule as your "Universal truth and fact" which is only a greater opinion.

So what is a universal truth and fact can be decided by each and everyone of us which is ultimately an opinion.
 

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Universal truths?

It use to be a universal truth that the world was flat.

It use to be a universal truth that slavery was the norm.

It use be the universal truth that killing in the name of God or some other religious deity was fine.

People challenged these universal truths and argue against the "Facts" and thus new "Facts" were born because of it.

Truths and facts are in a constant state of flux.

What was true three hundred years ago is considered wrong today.

Likewise something we consider true today could be wrong three hundred years from now.

Facts will always be argued because humans are not united in agreement.

There is not one thing all six billion of us agree on and be called a universal truth of fact.

You're merely using the majority rule as your "Universal truth and fact" which is only a greater opinion.

So what is a universal truth and fact can be decided by each and everyone of us which is ultimately an opinion.
so now you're bringing God into this? i don't see what God has to do with our debate but fine i'll humor you, it's a Universal Truth that the Earth is round and it's also a Universal Truth that certain surfaces of the Earth are flat one such surface is ground beneath our feet, no matter how you look at it you have no other choice but to accept the Universal Truth that Slavery is wrong and that no one has the right to take away another Person's Freedom and get them to do things against their own Free Will, it's also a Universal Truth that killing other people in the name God aka YHVH or whatever God that you believe in is wrong and Unjustifiable, i'm not using the Majority Rule also you're Very Wrong about Facts and Opinions because the Fact is Facts and Opinions are not the same thing they are two Completely Very Different Things, Opinions are nothing more then Statements that have no Truth to them whatsoever Facts are Statements that have Universal Truths these Universal Truths define what Reality is that's why i say that no one can argue against these things because if you argue against this things then you're also arguing against Reality, opinions don't matter one bit the only things that do matter are Facts Universal Truths and Reality.
 
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so now you're bringing God into this? i don't see what God has to do with our debate but fine i'll humor you, it's a Universal Truth that the Earth is round and it's also a Universal Truth that certain surfaces of the Earth are flat one such surface is ground beneath our feet, no matter how you look at it you have no other choice but to accept the Universal Truth that Slavery is wrong and that no one has the right to take away another Person's Freedom and get them to do things against their own Free Will, it's also a Universal Truth that killing other people in the name God aka YHVH or whatever God that you believe in is wrong and Unjustifiable, i'm not using the Majority Rule also you're Very Wrong about Facts and Opinions because the Fact is Facts and Opinions are not the same thing they are two Completely Very Different Things, Opinions are nothing more then Statements that have no Truth to them whatsoever Facts are Statements that have Universal Truths these Universal Truths define what Reality is that's why i say that no one can argue against these things because if you argue against this things then you're also arguing against Reality, opinions don't matter one bit the only things that do matter are Facts Universal Truths and Reality.

Is it a universal truth that a country runs better with democracy?

Is it a universal truth that a country runs better with monarchy?

Is it a universal truth that a country runs better with Communism?

Is it a universal truth that a country runs better with Dictatorship?

Depending on the country you ask the response will differ.

You are making the mistake of thinking what you justify as fact is a universal truth.

And as for God, is it a fact that many religions believes he exists?

Likewise is a fact that Atheists don't believe in him?

So which one is the universal truth?

People still dismiss the theory of gravity because it's a theory.

Does it make it a fact or an opinion?

What you call rejecting reality is actually your inability to accept that people think differently from you.

So if anything you're the one rejecting reality in favour of your own.

But that's just my opinion. It's not a fact. It's not a universal truth. It's just an opinion.
 

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Is it a universal truth that a country runs better with democracy?

Is it a universal truth that a country runs better with monarchy?

Is it a universal truth that a country runs better with Communism?

Is it a universal truth that a country runs better with Dictatorship?

Depending on the country you ask the response will differ.

You are making the mistake of thinking what you justify as fact is a universal truth.

And as for God, is it a fact that many religions believes he exists?

Likewise is a fact that Atheists don't believe in him?

So which one is the universal truth?

People still dismiss the theory of gravity because it's a theory.

Does it make it a fact or an opinion?

What you call rejecting reality is actually your inability to accept that people think differently from you.

So if anything you're the one rejecting reality in favour of your own.

But that's just my opinion. It's not a fact. It's not a universal truth. It's just an opinion.
it's a Universal Truth that Dictatorship and Communism are wrong because in countries that have those things the people who run those countries attempt to take away the Free Will of the people that live there and like i said before taking away Free Will from other people is wrong as for Democracy and Monarchy i'm not sure then again other people aren't sure either that's why we have to look for the answer, as for God you don't have to be Religious in him i believe in God yet i'm not Religious at all in Fact i hate Religion and i know that are people that don't believe in God and i have no problem with that whatsoever so yes it's a Fact or should i say Universal Truth that are people that believe in God and that are also people that don't believe in God, also Gravity is a Fact not a Theory a Theory is an Explanation of a Possibility if that Explanation is proven to be True then it not a Theory anymore it becomes a Fact and seeing how Gravity was proven to be True that means it's a Fact not a Theory, also you're wrong about me being unable to accept that people think differentially from each the Fact i do accept that people think differentially from each other also just because people think differentially from each other that doesn't mean that that there is no Right or Wrong way of thinking because the Fact is there is Right way of thinking and a Wrong way of thinking, you're wrong about me rejecting Reality in favor of my owe Reality let tell you something i'm not like Obito Madara Adachi or Izanami because the Fact is i accept Reality for what it is this Reality that i accept is the same the Reality that me you and everyone else in the World live by what's more there is only one Reality in this Universe there is no other Reality that Exists except for the that we are living by right now that's a Fact a Universal Truth and you can't argue with Facts or Universal Truths or Reality.
 
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it's a Universal Truth that Dictatorship and Communism are wrong because in countries that have those things the people who run those countries attempt to take away the Free Will of the people that live there and like i said before taking away Free Will from other people is wrong as for Democracy and Monarchy i'm not sure then again other people aren't sure either that's why we have to look for the answer, as for God you don't have to be Religious in him i believe in God yet i'm not Religious at all in Fact i hate Religion and i know that are people that don't believe in God and i have no problem with that whatsoever so yes it's a Fact or should i say Universal Truth that are people that believe in God and that are also people that don't believe in God, also Gravity is a Fact not a Theory a Theory is an Explanation of a Possibility if that Explanation is proven to be True then it not a Theory anymore it becomes a Fact and seeing how Gravity was proven to be True that means it's a Fact not a Theory, also you're wrong about me being unable to accept that people think differentially from each the Fact i do accept that people think differentially from each other also just because people think differentially from each other that doesn't mean that that there is no Right or Wrong way of thinking because the Fact is there is Right way of thinking and a Wrong way of thinking, you're wrong about me rejecting Reality in favor of my owe Reality let tell you something i'm not like Obito Madara Adachi or Izanami because the Fact is i accept Reality for what it is this Reality that i accept is the same the Reality that me you and everyone else in the World live by what's more there is only one Reality in this Universe there is no other Reality that Exists except for the that we are living by right now that's a Fact a Universal Truth and you can't argue with Facts or Universal Truths or Reality.

Doesn't the "Fact" that I'm arguing with you right now disproves everything you have said?
 

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Doesn't the "Fact" that I'm arguing with you right now disproves everything you have said?
no it doesn't it just means that you're unable to accept Reality for what it is, even if you disagree that won't change certain Facts Universal Truths or Reality.
 
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no it doesn't it just means that you're unable to accept Reality for what it is, even if you disagree that won't change certain Facts Universal Truths or Reality.

Which is your opinion.

So you've been disproven again.
 

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it's a Fact not opinion just like how it's a Fact that Genocide is wrong.

In your opinion it's a fact, same with genocide.

Just because what you believe is right doesn't make it a fact.
 

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In your opinion it's a fact, same with genocide.

Just because what you believe is right doesn't make it a fact.
it's a Fact not opinion also you just don't seem to understand why Genocide is in Fact wrong, also you're acting as if there is no Definitive Answer to anything in life but the Fact is certain things do have Definitive Answers while other things don't have a Definitive Answer that's a Fact a Universal Truth that's Reality.
 
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it's a Fact not opinion also you just don't seem to understand why Genocide is in Fact wrong, also you're acting as if there is no Definitive Answer to anything in life but the Fact is certain things do have Definitive Answers while other things don't have a Definitive Answer that's a Fact a Universal Truth that's Reality.

Fact only exists in Mathematics.How do you know If it is a fact?You don't because there is always the possibility it could be wrong, before you say "No there is not", you would not know that until you later discoverd the later "fact". For example you may think it is a fact that the earth is a sphere shape, but that is only going off what people actully say,you would have to fly out to space to see it yourself, but than wouldn't what you THAN see be a fact because you saw it in person? No,what if the light is playing tricks? There is no absolute truth because you think something is absolute but there is a possibility it is not, and would probably never know it.
 

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Fact only exists in Mathematics.How do you know If it is a fact?You don't because there is always the possibility it could be wrong, before you say "No there is not", you would not know that until you later discoverd the later "fact". For example you may think it is a fact that the earth is a sphere shape, but that is only going off what people actully say,you would have to fly out to space to see it yourself, but than wouldn't what you THAN see be a fact because you saw it in person? No,what if the light is playing tricks? There is no absolute truth because you think something is absolute but there is a possibility it is not, and would probably never know it.
let me guess you're trying to say life is an illusion and that there is no way we can scientifically exists right? also you're wrong there is Absolute Truth things do have Definitive Answers there are certain things have Definitive Answers and there are other things that don't have Definitive Answers that's a Fact a Universal Truth that's Reality the more you reject and argue against Reality the more you prove that you're full of Delusions and Misconceptions, i don't think the Earth is Round i know for a Fact that the Earth is Round because there is Evidence that shows us that the Earth is Round also you forget on very important Fact and that is there are Pictures of the Earth itself, because this of Fact it doesn't matter if i go to space or not because the Evidence already proves that the Earth is Round!
 
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