Has it already come to this?

[The Amazing Spider Man]

Honestly you aren't coming across any wiser than Justin Beiber at this moment, but it's normal. You're going through a stage and when you think back on this time you'll roll your eyes at yourself.

Please explain how I'm no wiser. By saying that everyone makes mistakes? By saying that even parents can be stupid at times? By saying that people need to take of their kids? Be more specific provide more details and I will take you more seriously next time.

 

[Bantos]

I'm completely entitled to insult my parent if she/he is completely wrong or doing the wrong choices all the time. Although I don't believe in insults, but lecturing is always okay.

Well, when I was a child/teen it wasn't okay. But now that we're both adults we stand in the same line.
I appreciate and love my mother but...

Everyone has flaws.

 

[Callypigia]

For starters, saying "**** elders, yo," sounds like something Justin Beiber would say. And you were right when you said "everyone makes mistakes," but you stopped short. The reason elders are wiser is because they have made many of the same mistakes in their youth, and continue to make mistakes. Wisdom comes from experience. Still, I'm not trying to mock you, most of us have been through this. This whole thread reminds me of this picture:

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[Mikeuhsomething36]

You should always show respect to your parents but that doesn't mean you should be their slave. A true parent will care, love for, and nurture their child but patents are humans too they make mistakes.

If they wrong you the proper thing to do is to adapt to the situation. It depends on the extremity however if it's not that serious don't make it out to be if it is such as they torture, attempt to kill, heavy insults, etc you have the right to defend yourself not physically always but verbally too however this doesn't apply if you really deserved it.

Name calling is basically the most efficient weapon to "negatively downplay" anyone. In fact most name calling discourages children of today from a lot of things then parents wonder why their children do it back to them. If you're a parent watch how you act around your child and think about how YOU were when you were a kid, what comes around goes around.

 

[The Amazing Spider Man]

For starters, saying "**** elders, yo," sounds like something Justin Beiber would say. And you were right when you said "everyone makes mistakes," but you stopped short. The reason elders are wiser is because they have made many of the same mistakes in their youth, and continue to make mistakes. Wisdom comes from experience. Still, I'm not trying to mock you, most of us have been through this. This whole thread reminds me of this picture:

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If only it where that easy. Reminds me of this gif.

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I also didn't mean **** all elders in general I just meant the one's who think all wisdom comes with age because it surely doesn't.

 

[Callypigia]

I also didn't mean **** all elders in general I just meant the one's who think all wisdom comes with age because it surely doesn't.

Fair enough. Maybe this is a cultural difference? My job is to assess people for psychiatric hospitalizations, so I see a lot of adults who continue to make the same poor life choices over and over. I still try to respect them though (younger and older). Everyone deserves to be treated with some degree of respect, maybe even those who wrong us need more. We can learn from anyone who's older, poor choices or not, and that is why I respect them. It doesn't mean I agree with them.

 

[The Amazing Spider Man]

Fair enough. Maybe this is a cultural difference? My job is to assess people for psychiatric hospitalizations, so I see a lot of adults who continue to make the same poor life choices over and over. I still try to respect them though (younger and older). Everyone deserves to be treated with some degree of respect, maybe even those who wrong us need more. We can learn from anyone who's older, poor choices or not, and that is why I respect them. It doesn't mean I agree with them.

Hm I see. Cultural differences is probably why Lol But I have been wronged too many times by my parents, given up too much for them, and have had the worst luck in life out of anyone I know. So I think it's just my hatred that spoke. U_U

 

[scorezor]

i wont read the thread that you sent us... i don't have the time nor the patience do it.

Mom's... some moms are bad , some moms are good ... that's all you have to know.

 

[Sex]

Things have changed. I'm not 10 anymore. And because my intelligence is greater than my mother's...I'm always right and she's always wrong, hence why I can be disrespectful.

Spoiler

Kidding. She's always right. But she's also a woman, so I guess she's 2x right, even if she's dead wrong.

 

[Xarpius]

i wont read the thread that you sent us... i don't have the time nor the patience do it.

Mom's... some moms are bad , some moms are good ... that's all you have to know.

Never forced you too. Just don't bother, ever, replying to these kind of threads. Your reply is the opposite of the word intelligent.

I made my message, and that is that.

 

[YowYan]

You made this thread due to my post. How cute :')

Anywho, I have good parents and no matter how wrong they are in an argument, I never retaliated physically. I only tell them why they're wrong wirh a calm voice meanwhile getting cussed and yelled at.

Now..for a simpleton like yourself who's not familiar with actual abusive parents and judges too quickly, you simply lack a walk in the shoes of a child who does suffer by the hands of a abusive parent.

 

[Xarpius]

You made this thread due to my post. How cute :')

Anywho, I have good parents and no matter how wrong they are in an argument, I never retaliated physically. I only tell them why they're wrong wirh a calm voice meanwhile getting cussed and yelled at.

Now..for a simpleton like yourself who's not familiar with actual abusive parents and judges too quickly, you simply lack a walk in the shoes of a child who does suffer by the hands of a abusive parent.

Ouch, such a sad story. D:

You are not the only one, YowYan. I've been there. Now what? I'm not holding any grudge against her, like you are. Just like millions of other teens/kids I got beat up. And again, now what? My mother has all the right to, while I lower my head. Sure it's frustrating, but so it is for her; meeting the eyes of her quiet & disciplined daughter. Every mother has her own reasons and I don't question those reasons, those are for me to find out. She could've dumped you as infant, have you ever question her why she didn't get rid of your annoying arse? Most likely because she loves you. You aren't anything special to get "abused". See it rather as a lesson and suck it up.

Crying and mourning about it on the internet won't do any good. Nor does insulting. Heck, I've never thought I'd meet the day where youngsters insult their mothers. Like freaking hell. I must be born in the wrong generation.

Because I love my mother. We all do, or I want to believe
We forgive and forget it. That is life. The past is behind us now, show some respect.

 

[NineSNS]

Bad parenting is WAY too common, and abusive parents probably are, too. For kids in those situations, I don't blame them one bit for blasting their parents. Most parents are just imperfectly human, but try their best. Our culture doesn't seem to value respect in general; what you are talking about is another symptom of that.

 

[YowYan]

Ouch, such a sad story. D:

You are not the only one, YowYan. I've been there. Now what? I'm not holding any grudge against her, like you are. Just like millions of other teens/kids I got beat up. And again, now what? My mother has all the right to, while I lower my head. Sure it's frustrating, but so it is for her; meeting the eyes of her quiet & disciplined daughter. Every mother has her own reasons and I don't question those reasons, those are for me to find out. She could've dumped you as infant, have you ever question her why she didn't get rid of your annoying arse? Most likely because she loves you. You aren't anything special to get "abused". See it rather as a lesson and suck it up.

Crying and mourning about it on the internet won't do any good. Nor does insulting. Heck, I've never thought I'd meet the day where youngsters insult their mothers. Like freaking hell. I must be born in the wrong generation.

Because I love my mother. We all do, or I want to believe
We forgive and forget it. That is life. The past is behind us now, show some respect.

Sigh.. painfull to read.

I was not abused. I got the common spanking, but I was not abused. Close friends and my gf are/were.
Anywho, clearly, your mum did a bad job raising you as though you sound way too obedient. That simpleton mentality that your parent is your lord and remains his/her authority by dominating you filling you with fear. It's a global issue. Parents are not bright enough to raise their children with clever, well thought out methods of teaching. Your "respect" for your mum, as the way you share it, is overly obedient. Maybe you're young, in that case.I nderstand but I'm 21 and it rarely happens that my parent outsmart me in arguments and behaviour.

And you've been there? So, you get told by your mum she regrets giving birth to you?..on a daily basis? You have a dad that locked your bedroom door to have some "private quality time" with his daughter? Heh?.. Your ignorant stupid grandmother that wants to indoctrnate you into her dumbass religious norms, forcing it on you by using fear? (Letting out the horrible things that happened while surviving her gm's advances)

Children and parents are, in many cases, only separated by age. Not knowledge, not integrity, not intellect. I schooled this 58 year old man that thought he could educate me. I know teenagers that are more honest, generous, smart, open minded than old people. That's why I despise simpletons that decide to have children.

Don't be too obedient. Schools are meant to bring down originality and dissent and our parents where brought up in those doctrines.. Ofcourse, you must show respect to your parents but there is nothing as disgusting aa respect based on fear.

 

[Jonesy161]

My favorite quote of all time...

"You need a permit for a gun, but you can give any damn idiot a child." - Anonymous Movie Quote

Just because they are your parents does not automatically entitle them to respect from you. At times, they can be such a bad parent that children commit suicide from thinking they have a horrible life. You must show your children love and respect if you expect the same back from them.

What this world has come to is not children being disrespectful to their parents, but rather, idiots thinking they can have *** and remain safe, idiots thinking they want a baby then can't afford, idiots thinking they have the patience then they go crazy from just the first year because they don't get any rest. A good parent has to know what to expect, a good parent has to be willing to sacrifice everything for their child, a good parent must never make their child feel unwelcome to the world, but rather, a safe haven for their child to return when the worst happens, no matter their age. In other words, a good parent must have unconditional love, and that's what this world has come to, a lack of love.

My parents were a prime example.

- My parents were abusive.
- They were always insulting, never provided support.
- They never attended any of my sport or academic events, not even my high school graduation.
- They would say how my teachers hated me (despite never attending a parent/teacher meeting), how I was terrible at the sports I played.
- They would tell me my friends weren't my friends and never wanted to be near me.
- Would tell me how everyone hates my attitude.
- They said I would never go anywhere in life.

Well, they were wrong.

- My friends loved me and would stand by my side when my parents would come to drag me away. Even their parents would step in and I ended up meeting my best friends who have been by my side for over 14 years. They even showed up in Hawaii when I had a surfing accident. I woke up 2 weeks later in the hospital with all 4 of my best friends by my side.
- My uncle and his family would attend my sporting and academic events, to cheer me on. Dave, my uncle, treated me like a son (My mom refused to speak to Dave or his wife due to hatred of his wife).
- My teachers respected me, loved me, had confidence in me. My grades were fantastic, allowing me to attend UCLA after high school and then UCSD for Med School. Two of them even took me under their wings, to make me the best I can be, and forever, I will be grateful to them.
- I helped lead my teams to victories and my dedication and skills were strong. Was on varsity since Sophmore year and I even became the captain of the Varsity Soccer Team in my Junior year.
- I'm considered among my fellow students, my co-workers and my friends to be one of the nicest people they ever met. Cool headed, always thinking of others before myself. I even have two friends to this day who purposely try to make me upset because they wish to see what I'm like upset or annoyed haha. I vowed to never be like my parents.
- I graduate from Medical School in 2 years. My GF and friends have supported me the entire way. My uncle, Dave, helped me pay for tuition as my parents refused to (although my father is exceptionally wealthy...).

That's an example of how a parent has nothing to do with your success in life, just the birth. If it weren't for my Uncle and his family, if it weren't for my friends and best friends or even my teachers, I would have felt like other kids who hate their life because of their parents. My recommendation, don't use your hatred on your friends, don't even use it on those who inflict it upon you. Open up to your closest friends, let them know the pain you suffer. It will never go away, but they will be there to help you shoulder it.

 

[Jack Spicer]

Sigh.. painfull to read.

I was not abused. I got the common spanking, but I was not abused. Close friends and my gf are/were.

How come every girl ever was apparently abused?

 

[Xarpius]

Sigh.. painfull to read.

I was not abused. I got the common spanking, but I was not abused. Close friends and my gf are/were.
Anywho, clearly, your mum did a bad job raising you as though you sound way too obedient. That simpleton mentality that your parent is your lord and remains his/her authority by dominating you filling you with fear. It's a global issue. Parents are not bright enough to raise their children with clever, well thought out methods of teaching. Your "respect" for your mum, as the way you share it, is overly obedient. Maybe you're young, in that case.I nderstand but I'm 21 and it rarely happens that my parent outsmart me in arguments and behaviour.

And you've been there? So, you get told by your mum she regrets giving birth to you?..on a daily basis? You have a dad that locked your bedroom door to have some "private quality time" with his daughter? Heh?.. Your ignorant stupid grandmother that wants to indoctrnate you into her dumbass religious norms, forcing it on you by using fear? (Letting out the horrible things that happened while surviving her gm's advances)

Children and parents are, in many cases, only separated by age. Not knowledge, not integrity, not intellect. I schooled this 58 year old man that thought he could educate me. I know teenagers that are more honest, generous, smart, open minded than old people. That's why I despise simpletons that decide to have children.

Don't be too obedient. Schools are meant to bring down originality and dissent and our parents where brought up in those doctrines.. Ofcourse, you must show respect to your parents but there is nothing as disgusting aa respect based on fear.

I'm eighteen and perfectly fine, thank you. My first sentence in my previous post was sarcasm btw. Because I don't need pity and I know you don't either. Man up. Forget and forgive, although the things you've been going through are rather really painful to read.
But even so, it doesn't happen anymore. You are twenty-one, old enough to ask why they harmed you in such way (if it still bothers you) instead of easing your heart at here. Believe it or not, I didn't make this thread to flame you, otherwise I'd have screenshot your post including you username and bash you. I just did it to change some sides, explaining why you should always listen to your parent and secretly hoping that some will actually take this advice into action. >_>

Sorry.

My favorite quote of all time...

"You need a permit for a gun, but you can give any damn idiot a child." - Anonymous Movie Quote

Just because they are your parents does not automatically entitle them to respect from you. At times, they can be such a bad parent that children commit suicide from thinking they have a horrible life. You must show your children love and respect if you expect the same back from them.

What this world has come to is not children being disrespectful to their parents, but rather, idiots thinking they can have *** and remain safe, idiots thinking they want a baby then can't afford, idiots thinking they have the patience then they go crazy from just the first year because they don't get any rest. A good parent has to know what to expect, a good parent has to be willing to sacrifice everything for their child, a good parent must never make their child feel unwelcome to the world, but rather, a safe haven for their child to return when the worst happens, no matter their age. In other words, a good parent must have unconditional love, and that's what this world has come to, a lack of love.

You are talking on a whole different level than what I'm talking about. And I made quite the similar response on the first page @Spiderman.

 

[YowYan]

How come every girl ever was apparently abused?

What are you talking about?.. Where did I state that?..

I'm eighteen and perfectly fine, thank you. My first sentence in my previous post was sarcasm btw. Because I don't need pity and I know you don't either. Man up. Forget and forgive, although the things you've been going through are rather really painful to read.
But even so, it doesn't happen anymore. You are twenty-one, old enough to ask why they harmed you in such way (if it still bothers you) instead of easing your heart at here. Believe it or not, I didn't make this thread to flame you, otherwise I'd have screenshot your post including you username and bash you. I just did it to change some sides, explaining why you should always listen to your parent and secretly hoping that some will actually take this advice into action. >_>

Sorry.


You are talking on a whole different level than what I'm talking about. And I made quite the similar response on the first page @Spiderman.

My 10 months old sister could see that your firast sentence was sarcastic xd (I keed, she can't even talk yet)

Anywho, have you read my post, Xarpius?
I practically started off saying I, myself, was not abused. I'm talking about people that are close to me.

My heart is fine..I'm just trying to wake you up to the facr you should not blindly respect people just because they feed you and put a roof over your head. Respect is earned, no matter who it is.

Next time read it through before posting..it's ok, I do it often when some wisenose replies to my post with 4 pages of text.

 

[Aim64C]

To be fair - I think our short-sighted actions as a teenager are, to some degree, necessary to our development. The difference between a child and an adult is the acceptance of responsibility and the introspection that comes with it. Part of becoming an adult is accepting responsibility and then analyzing why you failed to meet your own expectations of that responsibility - an introspective process.

This is how our personality and identity truly begins to solidify.

I'm not really worried or all that offended by the comments children and teenagers make. It is their perspective at the time, and not all of their observations are without merit. The Internet has made it far easier to externalize one's internal dialogue as well as to browse through statements that would normally be left unsaid or said in shushed voices when the children are stomping through creeks.

What worries me is the delayed onset of introspection among many of the younger generations. Even amongst people in their 30s, I've noticed a disturbing number of them who lack an introspective perspective. They are not reviewing their own actions, they are not grasping a contrast between their opinions as a child and the realities faced by an adult.

I think much of it has to do with the fact that we live in a complacent society where we have blunted the realities of life to a large degree. People spend literally a quarter of their life in school paid for largely by the government. We make the excuse that "we are rich enough for everyone to have a meal" - among other ideologies that never require people to encounter situations where their preconceived notions as children are challenged by the realities of what it requires to live. The only thing that really changed is that now they get to choose what food appears on their table and they might have to figure out how to not burn the shit out of themselves on the stove.

It never really hits them that: "Holy shit... this is what it took for Mom to have dinner on the table every evening. This is why she got so pissed when I didn't clean my room. And no wonder I always had to try and find Dad - if he wasn't at work, there was always something broken or requiring attention around the house. Shit... what I wouldn't give just to have someone around to help deal with life."

Which is why those accepting government assistance have skyrocketing divorce rates. When Uncle Sugar is going to make it so you don't have to worry about the realities of life, the concept of the person you are married to being a real partner in life goes out the window and they become a passing curiosity.

Which is part of why we see the collapse of society that we do. We are into the second and third of the welfare generations where children were raised by parents relieved of the consequences of life by welfare programs. Their parents never struggled against anything other than the fact that politicians could radically influence their lives by changing how welfare worked (so, basically, they struggled to get more free stuff that they were entitled to because they were born in a rich country where no one should suffer consequences). So their perspective on life and of their parents is completely and totally warped.

And for many - it will remain warped. It is easier to look at what another person has and insist they are somehow withholding some entitlement than it is to look at one's self and accept that one made a series of decisions that directly influenced the outcome under review.

Example: I have suggested that the U.S. should become two different countries. The ideological divide is impossible to bridge under one governing structure. One side is clamoring for socialism (and willing to resort to dictatorships to get it done) - while the other is pursuing a return to the Constitutional limitations on government and a down-sizing of federal programs (if not outright removal). Interestingly the Republicans are for the socialist dictatorship along with the Democrats - they just disagree on who should be in control of it.

Anyway - the socialist dictatorship that would hypothetically be founded would rapidly collapse into hyper-inflation (socialism is glorious until you run out of other people's money).

Which is precisely why the Constitutional Republic would need strict border control and a militarized border. Open immigration simply couldn't be allowed because the socialists would flock into the functional economy and begin voting to regulate the market to prevent the problems they fled from. But because they lack introspection - they don't realize that it was their own policies that created the problem (the vast majority) - so the problems will follow them.

So they have to be kept from moving in and being full citizens with voting rights - or the two countries merge and the Constitutional Republic loses its identity.

Because of this, the socialists will fall for the words of politicians, who will insist that the problem is 'on the other side of the wall' - that the reason they are in a hell hole is because the people on the other side are somehow stealing something from them that should rightfully be theirs.

Ironically - this is where the socialists will become exceptionally productive and gear themselves for war to go reclaim what is 'rightfully theirs.' Because they don't look at their own actions - they lack introspection.

This is precisely the process used by Hitler to not only gain political power (a tactic used by Mao, Stalin, and countless others throughout history) - but to convince a nation to dedicate itself to the invasion of sovereign nations and the pillaging of the average citizen.

Which, I know, that has deviated substantially from the original point of the thread.

 

[Scooby Doo]

People in general are disrespectful. The keyword is 'rebel'