Minato vs. Akatsuki

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Akatsuki low-diff?

These guys were expert in capturing Jinchuuriki and this is like 95% of the Akatsuki against a single one of them.
He wouldn't be able to do a damn thing, either in BM or base form. This number of kage level opponents is way too overwhelming for anyone below Hashirama.
Lol, I see no one has a real argument. I guess Akatsuki gets shitted on.

The only Jinchuuriki they have captured are the ones who couldn't control their beast, and they weren't even held on the same pedestal as someone like Minato without their Bijuu power. We have the Fourth Hokage here, an already high tier Ninja who is the Perfect Jinchuuriki of Kurama, who even at half power is (By far) the strongest Bijuu.

Terrible arguments like "The Akatsuki are experts in catching Jinchuuriki" aren't going to cut it here.
 
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You didn't explain how they kill him though.
Lol, I see no one has a real argument.
@Invisible: Don't you usually take portrayal into account? I'm shocked that you think Minato stands any chance at all.

@Kid: Does it even matter?
Sasori never showed anything (apparently) able to put down any Jinchuuriki in a near death state, yet, he was the one who wanted to capture the strongest of the Bijuu by himself.
You can say he was being cocky, but this a written manga, not real life. This is Kishi's way of telling the reader that Sasori has the ability to do so.
Kakuzu and Hidan are another example where neither had (apparently) anything capable of putting BM Yugito out of comission but still did so (off screen).
Just because you think they lose based on what they've shown, it doesn't mean they do (considering portrayal and 'manga logic' ofc). A character like Minato soloing this many S-level opponents makes much less sense to me.
Its not just about being (once again, apparently) untouchable and nuke everything from the get go (especially when big guns aren't usually the ones being shot first).

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Now, to both of you. Couldn't Totsuka Sword seal the deal (literally and figuratively)?
 
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@Invisible: Don't you usually take portrayal into account? I'm shocked that you think Minato stands any chance at all.

@Kid: Does it even matter?
Sasori never showed anything (apparently) able to put down any Jinchuuriki in a near death state, yet, he was the one who wanted to capture the strongest of the Bijuu by himself.
You can say he was being cocky, but this a written manga, not real life. This is Kishi's way of telling the reader that Sasori has the ability to do so.
Kakuzu and Hidan are another example where neither had (apparently) anything capable of putting BM Yugito out of comission but still did so (off screen).
Just because you think they lose based on what they've shown, it doesn't mean they do (considering portrayal and 'manga logic' ofc). A character like Minato soloing this many S-level opponents makes much less sense to me.
Its not just about being (once again, apparently) untouchable and nuke everything from the get go (especially when big guns aren't usually the ones being shot first).

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Now, to both of you. Couldn't Totsuka Sword seal the deal (literally and figuratively)?
This is versus colosseum all fights are non-plot so the whole "big attacks aren't used first" wont cut it here. Intent is to kill and yes Minato can shoot the SuperDama right off the bat if he wishes. Itachi will never hit him with Totsuka. Remember member spreads his kunai all over the area and still has areas marked, like the sea, his house, his stone monument etc.

Also, I could be Slenderman, ya never know.
 

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Is teamwork important in Narutoverse? It sure is. Still, it doesnt mean that a couple of mutts will be able to take down a bear. If an enemy of yours is a whole level beyond you, you wont be able to hurt him in any way, no matter how hard your try. Even if a couple of guys of your calliber would support you, it still wouldnt change the outcome.

Therefore, Minato wins this.
 

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@Kid: Does it even matter?
Sasori never showed anything (apparently) able to put down any Jinchuuriki in a near death state, yet, he was the one who wanted to capture the strongest of the Bijuu by himself.
You can say he was being cocky, but this a written manga, not real life. This is Kishi's way of telling the reader that Sasori has the ability to do so.
Kakuzu and Hidan are another example where neither had (apparently) anything capable of putting BM Yugito out of comission but still did so (off screen).
Just because you think they lose based on what they've shown, it doesn't mean they do (considering portrayal and 'manga logic'). A character like Minato soloing this many S-level opponents makes much less sense to me.
Its not just about being (once again, apparently) untouchable and nuke everything from the get go (big guns aren't usually te one being shot first).
Says Akatsuki low diff, and asks if an argument even matters....not sure if serious. Then you being to spout nonsense about portrayal and logic when you aren't using a shred of logic nor do you even know what portrayal is based on what you are showing me.

Sasori wanted to capture the Jinchuuriki of Kurama. Not Kurama himself. Naruto can't control his Bijuu's power and he actively tries to suppress it, making it easier to capture him. What? Sasori wanting to go after Kurama means he can capture it? Since when has anyone going after anything meant that they could take it on. I guess if I use your logic, Edo Madara could take out Obito if he got Senjutsu, since he said he would do it. Tobirama can defeat Madara, because he said he'd do it. So you have no argument so to back up your baseless opinion, you use bad logic? Wow.

They showed what they used to put her out of commission. His ritual. Piercing a Bijuu's skin isn't hard, especially when Yugito can't even perfectly control her beast. So again, you are wrong.

Basically all I'm hearing is "I believe Minato loses so he loses" Even though what you believe doesn't mean squat here. When you can show me any portrayal that puts these members (Minus the two strongest) above any and every Jinchuuriki, Perfect or not, then we can talk. Until then, your post is just BS. And there is no logic that is letting you say Minato wins, just your belief that he can't take out this many opponents.

Uh? Your point? Minato doesn't need to start off with the big anything to defeat the Akatsuki.

Now, to both of you. Couldn't Totsuka Sword seal the deal (literally and figuratively)?
Lol, now you sound like the typical Itachi fanboy, except you extended the words "Totsuka GG". Are you telling me that Minato gets solo'd by Itachi? Face it, you have no legit argument, whether you are using feats or portrayal.

Now, why don't you explain how Totsuka is going to even pierce Minato when he can teleport, or annihilate Itachi with a single Bijuu Dama.
 

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This is versus colosseum all fights are non-plot so the whole "big attacks aren't used first" wont cut it here. Intent is to kill and yes Minato can shoot the SuperDama right off the bat if he wishes. Itachi will never hit him with Totsuka. Remember member spreads his kunai all over the area and still has areas marked, like the sea, his house, his stone monument etc.

Also, I could be Slenderman, ya never know.
I just hope you don't forget to use that criteria in future posts.
BM Minato doesn't teleport, i was referring to Minato's full transformed state. I thought that was obvious >_>

Says Akatsuki low diff, and asks if an argument even matters....not sure if serious. Then you being to spout nonsense about portrayal and logic when you aren't using a shred of logic nor do you even know what portrayal is based on what you are showing me.
You're talking like Minato is a demi-god, like on current Naruto's level or something, and the Akatsuki are a bunch of inept shinobi uncapable of handling one Jinchuuriki even when nearly their whole organization is together.
Nonsense is overrating Minato to this level and assuming he can get rid of nine S-level opponents who formed a group specifically to capture his kind.

Sasori wanted to capture the Jinchuuriki of Kurama. Not Kurama himself. Naruto can't control his Bijuu's power and he actively tries to suppress it, making it easier to capture him. What? Sasori wanting to go after Kurama means he can capture it? Since when has anyone going after anything meant that they could take it on. I guess if I use your logic, Edo Madara could take out Obito if he got Senjutsu, since he said he would do it. Tobirama can defeat Madara, because he said he'd do it. So you have no argument so to back up your baseless opinion, you use bad logic? Wow.
You're taking things out of context and comparing things that don't have comparison.
Sasori was recruited especially to capture Jinchuuriki/Bijuu (it doesn't matter whether they have a host or not, Isobu was free and Deidara was sent after it anyway). Is it that hard to detect and accept subtle messages like this one? Kishi is essentially establishing the possibility, and judging from Deidara's success (who admitted inferiority), i don't see why wouldn't he be able to capture a Jinchuuriki on his own.
And is there a reason for Madara not to be able to do so? Let me guess... he doesn't have feats? Is it necessary for the manga to show every possible scenario to understand who's stronger than who? Characters react differently in different situations and show different stuff at a time.
I get that this is a vs thread but i'll never type something as ridiculous as Minato > nearly all of the Akatsuki, when that would never reallistically and logically happen in the manga.

They showed what they used to put her out of commission. His ritual. Piercing a Bijuu's skin isn't hard, especially when Yugito can't even perfectly control her beast. So again, you are wrong.
What does control have to do with a Bijuu's durability? She fully transformed, she simply wasn't in control nor could bring forth its full potencial.
Its still hard to believe Hidan's scythe could pierce that much. Especially when the Matatabi seems to be partially made of fire, but it did.
I don't see why couldn't this many dangerous opponents take down one single foe who isn't that much above some of them.

Basically all I'm hearing is "I believe Minato loses so he loses" Even though what you believe doesn't mean squat here. When you can show me any portrayal that puts these members (Minus the two strongest) above any and every Jinchuuriki, Perfect or not, then we can talk. Until then, your post is just BS. And there is no logic that is letting you say Minato wins, just your belief that he can't take out this many opponents.
Who cares about my opinion? The OP made a thread and i gave my input. It should've ended there.
Who are you trying to fool here? You're typing like the Akatsuki had a lot of trouble capturing them. Some members even soloed even though they operate in teams (Kisame vs Roshi).
Portayal, logic, opinion, bs, whatever you call it, it doesn't matter. The manga already made it quite clear on who's superior to who.
Average Akatsuki member > average Jinchuuriki.

Uh? Your point? Minato doesn't need to start off with the big anything to defeat the Akatsuki.
Right, FTG gg.

Lol, now you sound like the typical Itachi fanboy, except you extended the words "Totsuka GG". Are you telling me that Minato gets solo'd by Itachi? Face it, you have no legit argument, whether you are using feats or portrayal.
I don't know, you tell me. My opinion regarding that matchup has been left in numerous other threads.
If Minato decides to go the TBB way (which is the answer for everything in vs threads when there's a Bijuu involved), then i don't see any reason for Itachi to miss his target.

Now, why don't you explain how Totsuka is going to even pierce Minato when he can teleport, or annihilate Itachi with a single Bijuu Dama.
Teleport in BM?.
Deva Path is also there. He could push all those TBB's away.
 
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Minato would have to place markers to start soloing the squad but if you give Itachi freaking intel on someone then the akastuki stomps. More over the the chakra rods deva path keeps has been known to suppress the biju as well as facing the hydra c3 AND totsuka blade? Akatsuki vitory
 

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You're talking like Minato is a demi-god, like on current Naruto's level or something, and the Akatsuki are a bunch of inept shinobi uncapable of handling one Jinchuuriki even when nearly their whole organization is together.
Nonsense is overrating Minato to this level and assuming he can get rid of nine S-level opponents who formed a group specifically to capture his kind.
He doesn't need to be a demi god to take out Akatsuki minus the two best members. Again, you crying about how they are S-Ranked Ninja doesn't mean anything here. Either get a feat or portrayal based argument or don't bother continuing.


You're taking things out of context and comparing things that don't have comparison.
Sasori was recruited especially to capture Jinchuuriki/Bijuu (it doesn't matter whether they have a host or not, Isobu was free and Deidara was sent after it anyway). Is it that hard to detect and accept subtle messages like this one? Kishi is essentially establishing the possibility, and judging from Deidara's success (who admitted inferiority), i don't see why wouldn't he be able to capture a Jinchuuriki on his own.
Do half the people on this site actually read the nonsense they regurgitate BEFORE they post it? How in God's name is Deidara (Weaker than Sasori) capturing a Bijuu, stated to be weaker without a Jinchuuriki, evidence that Sasori can capture a Perfect Jinchuuriki on his own?

There is no message he's trying to send here, its just you twisting the manga and trying to invent some kind of message to replace an argument, which you don't have.

And is there a reason for Madara not to be able to do so? Let me guess... he doesn't have feats? Is it necessary for the manga to show every possible scenario to understand who's stronger than who? Characters react differently in different situations and show different stuff at a time.
There are no feats, hype or portrayal that lets Madara defeat Obito. I also like how there is no response to the Tobirama example. :rolleyes:

Characters saying "They'll do this" Doesn't mean they can do it. Logic 101. If I say that I will beat up a bear, but never do it. Are you supposed to assume I can do it?


I get that this is a vs thread but i'll never type something as ridiculous as Minato > nearly all of the Akatsuki, when that would never reallistically and logically happen in the manga.
Based on your opinion, which no one cares about.


What does control have to do with a Bijuu's durability? She fully transformed, she simply wasn't in control nor could bring forth its full potencial.
Nothing. It has to do with its strength. Not sure why you assumed I was referring to durability alone.

Its still hard to believe Hidan's scythe could pierce that much. Especially when the Matatabi seems to be partially made of fire, but it did.
Well it did. Doesn't matter what you believe.

I don't see why couldn't this many dangerous opponents take down one single foe who isn't that much above some of them.
BIJUU MODE Minato isn't that far above these guys? Itachi is the strongest and Minato is on his level in Base. Saying that BM Minato isn't far above them individually is nothing but BS.


Who cares about my opinion? The OP made a thread and i gave my input. It should've ended there.
Your reply is easily the most nonsensical post on this thread, and its backed by zero evidence.

Who are you trying to fool here? You're typing like the Akatsuki had a lot of trouble capturing them. Some members even soloed even though they operate in teams (Kisame vs Roshi).
The Akatsuki captured no Perfect Jinchuuriki, who are the focus of my post. So again, worthless remark.

Portayal, logic, opinion, bs, whatever you call it, it doesn't matter. The manga already made it quite clear on who's superior to who.
Average Akatsuki member > average Jinchuuriki.
Except Minato isn't the average Jinchuuriki, he is a Perfect Jin. This BS is the main thing I'm addressing in this garbage post. You are pretty much telling me that because the bold is true, any Jin, including Perfect ones, get captured by the Akatsuki, which is horseshit.



Right, FTG gg.
Your post definitely doesn't need any worthless replies like this given its quality.

I don't know, you tell me. My opinion regarding that matchup has been left in numerous other threads.
If Minato decides to go the TBB way (which is the answer for everything in vs threads when there's a Bijuu involved), then i don't see any reason for Itachi to miss his target.
So Itachi is going to attack Minato while he fires a Bijuu Dama? Good luck when he gets his ass blown off the face of the planet. Bijuu Dama can even be fired long range, so once again, how is Itachi landing Totsuka?



Teleport in BM?
Deva Path is also there. He could push all those TBB's away U_U
Yes, unless you have evidence that he can't do so.

And Deva Path's Shinra Tensei doesn't have the feats to push away something as large and as fast as Minato's Bijuu Dama.


I thought you might actually have a good reason to believe that the Akatsuki wins low diff, but as expected, you are spewing nothing but garbage and the usual "Stop overrating" Crying about how I think Minato is a demi god because he can defeat the Akatsuki (Lol).

Not even gonna bother continuing. You can stick to your nonsense opinion.
 

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They can't even counter a standard Bijuu Dama let alone any of the larger variants or multiple Bijuu Dama.

Akatsuki gets wrecked, no chance of victory. If you disagree, post an argument.



Dafuq?

-Sasori loses.

-Itachi loses.

-Kakuzu loses.

-Deidara loses.

-Konan loses.

-Zetsu loses.

-Orochimaru loses.

-Deva by himself loses.

-Hidan loses.

The only one who wins is Kisame.



Please do.
YM? GSB + YM? Underground movements U_U

Multiple ways to counter a TBB U_U

Kakuzu wins

Kisame wins

Itachi can win

Sasori can win

Deidara wins if he's not blitzed
 

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YM? GSB + YM? Underground movements U_U

Multiple ways to counter a TBB U_U
Again with the Yata Mirror that has no feats? Not like it can protect all of them, only Itachi. The explosion kills the rest even if Yata's hyperbole hype is true.

Underground Movements? Rasengan drills into the ground and causes craters. A Bijuu Dama will do much worse once it explodes. Underground movements won't do anything.

Kakuzu wins
Nope. Have explained why.

Kisame wins
Minato can win.

Itachi can win
Nope. Have explained why.

Sasori can win
Not a chance.

Deidara wins if he's not blitzed
Then he loses. Cause he has no hope of getting into the air.
 

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Again with the Yata Mirror that has no feats? Not like it can protect all of them, only Itachi. The explosion kills the rest even if Yata's hyperbole hype is true.

Underground Movements? Rasengan drills into the ground and causes craters. A Bijuu Dama will do much worse once it explodes. Underground movements won't do anything.



Nope. Have explained why.



Minato can win.



Nope. Have explained why.



Not a chance.



Then he loses. Cause he has no hope of getting into the air.
Honestly Taka was able to dodge TBB Its explosive and destructive capabilities are clearly overdrawn >.<

So lets debate Kakuzu and Minato my man? I've been itching to officially debate you for a while U_U

Deidara has a chance of getting in the air? ...With info

Eh i don't care about Sasori enough to debate it



Kisame rapes minato?
 

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Honestly Taka was able to dodge TBB Its explosive and destructive capabilities are clearly overdrawn >.<

So lets debate Kakuzu and Minato my man? I've been itching to officially debate you for a while U_U

Deidara has a chance of getting in the air? ...With info

Eh i don't care about Sasori enough to debate it



Kisame rapes minato?
But that was Hachibis TBB. Any Half of Kurama can produce a TBB the size of 5 basic TBB because it is the strongest of the tailed beast.

About the Kakuzu and Minato, you're probably just going to argue why Domu tanks Minatos attacks so thats a debate I don't really want to see. One sage powered Rasengan kills Kakuzu through Domu but he wont even have time to activate it anyhow so its a non factor and not worth it in my opinion.
 

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Base Minato ain't beating Kisame, no way in hell.
Sure he can. As long as he can finish Kisame before he calls the Water Dome, or make sure that he has tags outside of its range. Then he'll have no issue defeating him.

Kisame on the other hand, stands no chance of victory if he engages Minato outside of the Water Dome. He'll simply end up getting blitzed via Hiraishin.

Honestly Taka was able to dodge TBB Its explosive and destructive capabilities are clearly overdrawn >.<
The weakest one, not even Mountain sized when it comes to its explosion. Bijuu Dama rapes.



So lets debate Kakuzu and Minato my man? I've been itching to officially debate you for a while U_U
Sure, why not? After I finish owning debating RustledJimmies. =D

Deidara has a chance of getting in the air? ...With info
No, he doesn't.


Kisame rapes minato?
Lol, that wank.
 

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Sure he can. As long as he can finish Kisame before he calls the Water Dome, or make sure that he has tags outside of its range. Then he'll have no issue defeating him.

Kisame on the other hand, stands no chance of victory if he engages Minato outside of the Water Dome. He'll simply end up getting blitzed via Hiraishin.



The weakest one, not even Mountain sized when it comes to its explosion. Bijuu Dama rapes.




Sure, why not? After I finish owning debating RustledJimmies. =D



No, he doesn't.




Lol, that wank.

Lmfao? Minato isn't blitzing deidara without FTG ....And with it he has no way of getting the seal there when explosions are going to ricochet kunai

And bet let me know u_U
 

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Sure he can. As long as he can finish Kisame before he calls the Water Dome, or make sure that he has tags outside of its range. Then he'll have no issue defeating him.

Kisame on the other hand, stands no chance of victory if he engages Minato outside of the Water Dome. He'll simply end up getting blitzed via Hiraishin.



The weakest one, not even Mountain sized when it comes to its explosion. Bijuu Dama rapes.




Sure, why not? After I finish owning debating RustledJimmies. =D



No, he doesn't.




Lol, that wank.

Lmfao? Minato isn't blitzing deidara without FTG ....And with it he has no way of getting the seal there when explosions are going to ricochet kunai

And bet let me know u_U
 
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