Peace according to Madara

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Madara's peace is the truest..not hagoromo's and not naruto's...

-after long and deep thinking Madara realized that peace is unreachable hope...poeple seek peace and yet at the same time yearning for wars??....so this is the history of Humanity...as long as peace exist there will be wars...its a cursed destiny wich led Madara to devise his dreamworld !!...why a cursed destiniy??..becuz of that bi**ch kaguya who ate the holly fruit and become the source of the curse of hatred...even Hagoromo who is suposed to be wise never understood sh**t about the concept of peace...while hagoromo was suposed to to finish off juubi and get rid of that immense chakra of juubi..he instead let the 9 bijuus raom free in the world...not only that but by giving sasuke and naruto new powers he was just creating a new circle of hatred...its as if hagoromo wanted to clean his hands and stick all this sh**t to naruto and sasuke....

-i am not saying Madara is right in his dreamworld plan...madara is right in questiooning the problematic of peace in the world...but his solution (moon eye plan) might be wrong....but at least Madara's motives are legit...Madara in origine is a nice guy...

-Madara says as long as there are winners there will also be losers...so as long as there is good poeple, then evil one will exist...if a good person tries to spread peace then an evil one will stop him...this is a must rule in the world...

so what Madara did to find the solution was that he tricked this law by choosing to be the villain guy with his free...but a villain who wants to spread peace and not a villain who wanted to destroy the world....this time
the villain isn't bad as we think but he has intention to bring peace...and thats how kishimoto's villain are unique !!

-Madara thinks peace is impossible in reall world....like i saidits a cursed destiny...so when destiny controlls humain hope will have no meaning and pains will spread...so madara's dreamworld is a place where poeple can controll destiny and wish whatever they want..its like a paradize...so my view to madara's dream world is " its the atheist version of the afterlife!!"...so Madara's big mistake is that he is atheist maybe?..i think yes !!...so thats why believing in god is awesome thing...becuz the afterlife of god is the true reality whereas this reality will live in is a mere illusion !!...


-if sasuke and naruto manage to defeat Madara...ya think Madara really lost???...NOOOO!!!...i tell you why?...

one of madara's famous quotes : " hope is nothing more then a giving up word"...however if you loook deep into it...Madara himself has an ultimate wish wich is "the dreamworld"...thus if Madara succeed in creating his inifnit dreamworld...then he is wrong in the matter of principles...BUT!!...if Madara's dreamworld fails...then Madara WILL BE A WINNER IN THE MATTER OF PRINCIPLES !!...becuz he was dammmn right...WISH CAN NEVER BE REALIZED!!!...thats why Madara wins even when he loses !!!

-its hagoromo who is the wrong version of Madara !!
 

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to...bi...dara?

the IT is the anti ninshu

''poeple seek peace and yet at the same time yearning for wars?'' sounds like madara...


hago is the heretical sage. hes not supposed to meddle but he is. naruto seems to believe in him and i think this will cause or be part of naruto vs saske

also hes ded
 
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Whew, son you need a medal for this. The way you related Madara's ideology with god, seriously, I mean seriously???:|
 

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If we were to compare Madara with someone in the real world he would be most like:
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Get it? 'Cause he's dead.
 

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You realize that you self-contradict yourself, right? At first you say that Madara's way of peace is the correct one but later on you suggest that you don't agree with the dremworld. At the end of the day, Madara is another guy who searched peace in one way or another. There is only one truth in what Madara said, maybe a pessimist one but nonetheless a real one: "Peace is nothing more than a silent war". If you want to have peace, then be prepared for war, and that's how it goes in reality as well.
 

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You realize that you self-contradict yourself, right? At first you say that Madara's way of peace is the correct one but later on you suggest that you don't agree with the dremworld. At the end of the day, Madara is another guy who searched peace in one way or another. There is only one truth in what Madara said, maybe a pessimist one but nonetheless a real one: "Peace is nothing more than a silent war". If you want to have peace, then be prepared for war, and that's how it goes in reality as well.

have i read this bla bla from you??....the answer is.................NOOOO !!!
 

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have i read this bla bla from you??....the answer is.................NOOOO !!!
Ofc it is because you're just a lazy guy who can't even comprehend some basic stuff let alone being capable of reading 5 lines. The funny thing though is how you write random threads from time to time with no further purpose other than to kill your boredom.
 

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You did an amazing job at this.
 

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I was going to refute your nonsense, but honestly man... I'm just sick of it.

You're a joke and everything you say is a joke.... whatever drugs you take must be some high grade sh*t
 

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BLA BLA BLA .... simply did not reeaaaaaddd!!!!

what about what i said? reply h8ter!
 

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I was going to refute your nonsense, but honestly man... I'm just sick of it.

You're a joke and everything you say is a joke.... whatever drugs you take must be some high grade sh*t

Amen to that XD
 

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Madara's peace was just an illusion and he knew it...
 

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Madara's peace is the truest..not hagoromo's and not naruto's...

-after long and deep thinking Madara realized that peace is unreachable hope...poeple seek peace and yet at the same time yearning for wars??....so this is the history of Humanity...as long as peace exist there will be wars...its a cursed destiny wich led Madara to devise his dreamworld !!
...why a cursed destiniy??..becuz of that bi**ch kaguya who ate the holly fruit and become the source of the curse of hatred...even Hagoromo who is suposed to be wise never understood sh**t about the concept of peace...while hagoromo was suposed to to finish off juubi and get rid of that immense chakra of juubi..he instead let the 9 bijuus raom free in the world...not only that but by giving sasuke and naruto new powers he was just creating a new circle of hatred...its as if hagoromo wanted to clean his hands and stick all this sh**t to naruto and sasuke....

-i am not saying Madara is right in his dreamworld plan...madara is right in questiooning the problematic of peace in the world...but his solution (moon eye plan) might be wrong....but at least Madara's motives are legit...Madara in origine is a nice guy...

-Madara says as long as there are winners there will also be losers...so as long as there is good poeple, then evil one will exist...if a good person tries to spread peace then an evil one will stop him...this is a must rule in the world...

so what Madara did to find the solution was that he tricked this law by choosing to be the villain guy with his free...but a villain who wants to spread peace and not a villain who wanted to destroy the world....this time
the villain isn't bad as we think but he has intention to bring peace...and thats how kishimoto's villain are unique !!

-Madara thinks peace is impossible in reall world....like i saidits a cursed destiny...so when destiny controlls humain hope will have no meaning and pains will spread...so madara's dreamworld is a place where poeple can controll destiny and wish whatever they want..its like a paradize...so my view to madara's dream world is " its the atheist version of the afterlife!!"...so Madara's big mistake is that he is atheist maybe?..i think yes !!...so thats why believing in god is awesome thing...becuz the afterlife of god is the true reality whereas this reality will live in is a mere illusion !!...


-if sasuke and naruto manage to defeat Madara...ya think Madara really lost???...NOOOO!!!...i tell you why?...

one of madara's famous quotes : " hope is nothing more then a giving up word"...however if you loook deep into it...Madara himself has an ultimate wish wich is "the dreamworld"...thus if Madara succeed in creating his inifnit dreamworld...then he is wrong in the matter of principles...BUT!!...if Madara's dreamworld fails...then Madara WILL BE A WINNER IN THE MATTER OF PRINCIPLES !!...becuz he was dammmn right...WISH CAN NEVER BE REALIZED!!!...thats why Madara wins even when he loses !!!

-its hagoromo who is the wrong version of Madara !!

Nice contradiction, bro.
 

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If we were to compare Madara with someone in the real world he would be most like:
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Get it? 'Cause he's dead.
I will come to you moron, when Madara comes back ^ ^
 

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Madara's ideal of peace was an illusion which he manipulated, a world where he was the God who decided and created everything in order to give everyone the peace they so deeply wished for. However there were two flaws to this plan which only Obito & Madara were against and didn't know about.

Naruto said that peace created within an illusion is nothing else but that, a fake illusion. Naruto said that peace doesn't really mean a thing unless its obtained by free will, if people are forced into it then its completely pointless. This is the point in which Madara and Obito disagreed with Naruto as they meant that the world could never obtain peace without being forced into it. (This is to Madara's statement about Yin/Yang.) The other flaws is that everyone will turn into Zetsus over the course of time, something Madara and Obito most likely didn't know about.

" Where there exists light, there will also exist shadows. "

This is the essences of the meaning behind Yin/Yang. Two forces which are complete opposites, yet they exist for each other. (Like in the sense that Sasuke cannot do a thing against Kaguya without Naruto, and Naruto cannot do a thing without Sasuke. They are depended on each other.) Madara stated that once these two forces were combined, true peace would be obtained. However, he thought that the meaning behind those words were that when one person gains these two powers, they will be able to obtain peace. A if power is contained within one person, they will be consumed by power. One person, one ideal, one result.

Peace cannot be obtained that way, at least not a meaningful peace. Peace is obtained when people understand and realise the world around them and accept it for what it is then accept its people and understand their feelings. Through doing that, people would understand others resolve tor reach their goal, their hatred, their pain and their loneliness. (This has been the theme of Naruto ever since the start.) With Kakashi, Naruto learned to overlook the differences and work together as a team. With Sasuke, Naruto learned the pain of rivalry and darkness. With Nagato/Pain, Naruto learned what pain really is and how it reflects on the world around them. With Jiraya's death, Naruto learned about loss and how it can easily consume one person alone. With his childhood he learned how loneliness can create hatred and give birth to ill feelings. And with Obito he understood how despair can drive someone to the edge, to the point where all they wish for is the past.

Sasuke whom has also understood all of these feelings has chosen a different path than Naruto. That is why they are the Yin and Yang of the world, the main spectre of the future. They are are the ones that will decide the future, as they are the ones who fully understand the world and others. They understand the true meaning of peace, hatred and darkness. Unlike Madara, who only had a ideal of it and only partial knowledge of it. That is why peace cannot be obtained by a single individual, as peace requires two opposite forces to work together or to at least balance each other out. One person has one ideal, one plan and one result. There is no opposite force to drive them.

 

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Madara's ideal of peace was an illusion which he manipulated, a world where he was the God who decided and created everything in order to give everyone the peace they so deeply wished for. However there were two flaws to this plan which only Obito & Madara were against and didn't know about.

Naruto said that peace created within an illusion is nothing else but that, a fake illusion. Naruto said that peace doesn't really mean a thing unless its obtained by free will, if people are forced into it then its completely pointless. This is the point in which Madara and Obito disagreed with Naruto as they meant that the world could never obtain peace without being forced into it. (This is to Madara's statement about Yin/Yang.) The other flaws is that everyone will turn into Zetsus over the course of time, something Madara and Obito most likely didn't know about.

" Where there exists light, there will also exist shadows. "

This is the essences of the meaning behind Yin/Yang. Two forces which are complete opposites, yet they exist for each other. (Like in the sense that Sasuke cannot do a thing against Kaguya without Naruto, and Naruto cannot do a thing without Sasuke. They are depended on each other.) Madara stated that once these two forces were combined, true peace would be obtained. However, he thought that the meaning behind those words were that when one person gains these two powers, they will be able to obtain peace. A if power is contained within one person, they will be consumed by power. One person, one ideal, one result.

Peace cannot be obtained that way, at least not a meaningful peace. Peace is obtained when people understand and realise the world around them and accept it for what it is then accept its people and understand their feelings. Through doing that, people would understand others resolve tor reach their goal, their hatred, their pain and their loneliness. (This has been the theme of Naruto ever since the start.) With Kakashi, Naruto learned to overlook the differences and work together as a team. With Sasuke, Naruto learned the pain of rivalry and darkness. With Nagato/Pain, Naruto learned what pain really is and how it reflects on the world around them. With Jiraya's death, Naruto learned about loss and how it can easily consume one person alone. With his childhood he learned how loneliness can create hatred and give birth to ill feelings. And with Obito he understood how despair can drive someone to the edge, to the point where all they wish for is the past.

Sasuke whom has also understood all of these feelings has chosen a different path than Naruto. That is why they are the Yin and Yang of the world, the main spectre of the future. They are are the ones that will decide the future, as they are the ones who fully understand the world and others. They understand the true meaning of peace, hatred and darkness. Unlike Madara, who only had a ideal of it and only partial knowledge of it. That is why peace cannot be obtained by a single individual, as peace requires two opposite forces to work together or to at least balance each other out. One person has one ideal, one plan and one result. There is no opposite force to drive them.

Lol you just made a terrrible mistake commenting here. This guy is so lazy that he couldn't read the 5 lines I wrote, what makes you think that he will read yours?
 

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Lol you just made a terrrible mistake commenting here. This guy is so lazy that he couldn't read the 5 lines I wrote, what makes you think that he will read yours?



And who said I wrote it, intending that he would read it? I already know how to communicate with Minamoto and how to get him to listen. The only problem is that he is in complete denial or a troll taking it a bit too far.

 

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And who said I wrote it, intending that he would read it? I already know how to communicate with Minamoto and how to get him to listen. The only problem is that he is in complete denial or a troll taking it a bit too far.

Well you usually write something expecting to be read XD But that's fine, as long as you know with what you're dealing with.
 
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