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If Orochimaru conducted experiments on sasuke and gave him senju DNA why didn't he awaken the Rinnegan?


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Because he didn't do experiments on Sasuke
 

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Because he didn't do experiments on Sasuke


But in the latest episode of the anime he said the only reason white zetsu came out of sasuke was because he conducted experiments on him using senju DNA.
 

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But in the latest episode of the anime he said the only reason white zetsu came out of sasuke was because he conducted experiments on him using senju DNA.

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But in the latest episode of the anime he said the only reason white zetsu came out of sasuke was because he conducted experiments on him using senju DNA.

No, he said that he conducted experiments and research on Hashirama's DNA, that's why he knew Sage Chakra would draw them out. I just watched the episode
 

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But in the latest episode of the anime he said the only reason white zetsu came out of sasuke was because he conducted experiments on him using senju DNA.
No. Obito put the zetsu inside Sasuke to watch over him, haven't you read the manga?
 

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No, he said that he conducted experiments and research on Hashirama's DNA, that's why he knew Sage Chakra would draw them out. I just watched the episode

Ah good because Sasuke saying he hate how Orochimaru does experiments would be a contradiction
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If Orochimaru conducted experiments on sasuke and gave him senju DNA why didn't he awaken the Rinnegan?


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cos indra+ashura chakra = rinnegan
 

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Manga never states Ashura chakra left hashi DNA

According to chapter 671 the transmigration of Hashirama Senju and Madara Uchiha is over. That also means there is no chakra of Indora/Ashura left. The chakra of Hagoromos two sons are now in Naruto and Sasuke. The chakra of Ashura/Indora can't be bound to two people at the same time. That's why Madara could only awake the Rinnegan due to Hashiramas flesh. In this context, he mixed a little part of Ashuras chakra with Indoras. By your logic even Orochimaru or Danzō would have Ashuras chakra...
Actually, Hagoromos statement doesn't leave room for speculation.
 

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According to chapter 671 the transmigration of Hashirama Senju and Madara Uchiha is over. That also means there is no chakra of Indora/Ashura left. The chakra of Hagoromos two sons are now in Naruto and Sasuke. The chakra of Ashura/Indora can't be bound to two people at the same time. That's why Madara could only awake the Rinnegan due to Hashiramas flesh. In this context, he mixed a little part of Ashuras chakra with Indoras. By your logic even Orochimaru or Danzō would have Ashuras chakra...
Actually, Hagoromos statement doesn't leave room for speculation.

Reincarnation is not equal to chakras, chakra is not like naruto's clones that the owner can withdraw all his chakra back. Chakra proven to be able to coexist in different people at the same times.

Itachi's chakra/power never left his dead eyes even after death
 

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You need to have Ashura and Indra dna mixed to get the rinnagan. Madara obtained it because him and Hashirama were the Indra and Ashura of there generation so when he took his dna he obtained the Rinnagan.
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You need to have Ashura and Indra dna mixed to get the rinnagan. Madara obtained it because him and Hashirama were the Indra and Ashura of there generation so when he took his dna he obtained the Rinnagan.
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People tend to assume ashura chakra left hashi cell even though manga never stated that
 

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Reincarnation is not equal to chakras

Nope, you've a wrong understanding what Hagoromo really meant. He said:



That's the concept of Indoras and Ashuras reincarnation. It's all about their chakra. Hashirama was the transmigrant of the (previous) generation. Hashirama isn't a transmigrant anymore. No transmigrant= no Ashura chakra. That's a given fact of the manga.

Ashuras chakra was bound only to Hashiramas body.



Madara took a part of Hashirama to obtain that kind of chakra. After Hashiramas transmigration was over and Ashura found a new and better vessel, Ashuras whole chakra changed its host.
 
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Nope, you've a wrong understanding what Hagoromo really meant. He said:



That's the concept of Indoras and Ashuras reincarnation. It's all about their chakra. Hashirama was the transmigrant of the (previous) generation. Hashirama isn't a transmigrant anymore. No transmigrant= no Ashura chakra. That's a given fact of the manga.

Ashuras chakra was bound only to Hashiramas body.



Madara toa part of Hashirama to obtain that kind of chakra. After Hashiramas transmigration was over and Ashura found a new and better vessel, Ashuras whole chakra changed its host.

Chakra is not a new concept nor only exist in nv. Chakra is known as energy, life energy, power, forces; however chakra is not soul nor reincarnation. The first scan you shows is different from the second one. Even trees without soul known to have life force. Energy/chakra is not soul

The first scan is the basic theory of "energy/power tags along the dead soul".

The second scan is given/taken energy/power that has a total different concept than the first. Not all chakra chase after his owner(soul). Certainly so6p can't get back his power from sasuke and naruto by reincarnating to someone else. Dead Itachi can't take his chakra from his dead eyes. And kaguya and jubi can't magically take back all their chakra. They have to rob back their chakras physically and forcefully

These are examples from manga that shows "not all chakra chase after its original owner", the chakra that chase after its soul/original owner is those that already attaching to the soul/body, just as your scan shows

If you believe so6p can get back chakra he given to naruto just by reincarnating to someone else, then you probably believe naruto's handout is not permanent which around 90% people here disagree
 
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