[Theory] Who Kaguya really is. The Big Lie...

[Six Paths]

Hey Guys, I had another theory in mind and I doubt it will be long. So please stick with me for a while and give it a read.
It would mean a lot to me

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Let us get directly started. We saw that in the previous weeks chapter, the Rabbit Goddess, Kaguya was brought back to life in a pretty weird way. Pretty much absorbing all the chakra that ever existed, except Obito, Kakashi, Sakura, Naruto and Sasuke. But still the amount of chakra was surpassing the 10 tails a being whose chakra is comparable to the entire earth.

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Kaguya was same moment "All" the chakra got connected again. At the moment "All" the chakra became one, Kaguya was
born. But doesn't that ring a bell to you? And I am sure you remember what the sage said at the moment he entrusted Naruto with the Yang power. The Sages word were these.

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The Sage said the following, If all the chakra will become one, a new fruit will be. And all the chakra, well nearly all of it became one and who was immediately born after it. It was Kaguya. So here you coem to my key point of the theory.
Kaguya never actually ate the fruit. It is because, Kaguya was the fruit itself.

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Look at my points. The story that Kaguya ate the fruit, was all made up by her itself. If the fruit was that sacred and everyone worshipped the tree, don't you think the tree would have guard nonstop? Don't you think that Kaguya would have just walked to the tree, plucked the fruit and eat it whole, without anyone wondering what she is doing?

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And further more, how did Kaguya even know the fruit would give the user enough power to rule the world? I doubt she had byakugan before eating the fruit, since you pretty much need chakra for it. So she didn't even know what the fruit might do. How didn't she know the fruit would kill her? That the fruit would be poisonous?

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So these are all parts that don't make sense and lead me to believe that the Sage never knew from where his mother came from. Or he realised it so late during his life, or even when he was dead, that he didn't even know what to do anymore. He just had to leave everything to the future generation. The sage left the stone monument at a time where he didn't know the full story and now that he knew everything it was simply to late for him to change anything except to leave it to Naruto.

And that is as well, the true meaning of Hagoromos question, He asks Naruto what he wished for to see if he was going the same path as his mother and would be arrogant for more power, after the answer Naruto gave the sage entrusted him with his own power, and that was the 6 Paths power of Yang.

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And don't forget what Kaguya herself said. She said that all the chakra belonged to her, which isn't the case entirely. The chakra was the Shinjus and the fruits itself. So she said that to give us a hint that she is the fruit itself. And yet another hint is when Kakashi asked her for her objective. She said that the Ground was her precious nursery, Which mean that the earth grew her. Something only a being would say that was given birth by the fruit itself.

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Thanks a lot for reading...You guys are all awesome =D

 

[Angelic.]

lots of plant references and chakra greed. i agree its more complicated than shes power hungry

 

[Jasey]

Possible! ..

 

[TonyDawn1379]

Lots of these c*nt-ish theories never come out to be true.

 

[InvaderRaz]

good theory, it makes a lot of sense... I've always hated the "she's an alien" threads and this one seems almost perfect. It could also be used to explain why Hago gave chakra away to everybody, ie so that it was in as many places as possible and hopefully prevent his mother's return.

question though, if she was the fruit itself then why would she give birth to children? What does she gain from that, also wouldn't that mean Hago and Hamura could've been born of the tree as well?

 

[Klad]

Fuuuuck . Best theory of you . Mind blooown .

 

[Six Paths]

good theory, it makes a lot of sense... I've always hated the "she's an alien" threads and this one seems almost perfect. It could also be used to explain why Hago gave chakra away to everybody, ie so that it was in as many places as possible and hopefully prevent his mother's return.

question though, if she was the fruit itself then why would she give birth to children? What does she gain from that, also wouldn't that mean Hago and Hamura could've been born of the tree as well?

Yes, that's why Hagoromo said you aren't far off with saying alien. They are Druids, beings on with Nature, being born by it

And thanks to everyone else as well =D

 

[tyresellers]

I dont think she meant the earth being her nursery as her birthplace. she meant to say the earth is where she will raise her children and we already know she is going to make an army of zetsus. So the zetsu are her children and they will be raised on earth. She isn't the fruit. The fruit story is symbolic to the adam and eve story of the forbidden fruit. All chakra belongs to her references how she was the first to have chakra and she used her chakra to connect to all people if you remember the image of her at the top and lines connecting all people. So go back to adam and eve.

Adam and Eve ate the fruit that allowed knowledge of sin. They made everyone else have access to sin. Just as kaguya eating the fruit gave chakra access to all people. She realized this and connected herself to everyone to get it all back and that is when the first zetsus were made.

 

[Hawker]

Interesting theory. However...

What I thought from what Kaguya said (that all chakra belonged to her) was that she brought it to the world when she ate the fruit and became one with it, so she kinda "invented" it. Meaning she had "dips" to it lol.. I don't see any strong hints that would lead me to believe she was the fruit herself. Because the eating the fruit thing pretty well explains why they all were fighting with Juubi and why Juubi was angry...well because someone took part of him.

Good theory though, but it's 50/50 in my mind as to what is the true story about Kaguya's past.

 

[Six Paths]

I dont think she meant the earth being her nursery as her birthplace. she meant to say the earth is where she will raise her children and we already know she is going to make an army of zetsus. So the zetsu are her children and they will be raised on earth. She isn't the fruit. The fruit story is symbolic to the adam and eve story of the forbidden fruit. All chakra belongs to her references how she was the first to have chakra and she used her chakra to connect to all people if you remember the image of her at the top and lines connecting all people. So go back to adam and eve.

Adam and Eve ate the fruit that allowed knowledge of sin. They made everyone else have access to sin. Just as kaguya eating the fruit gave chakra access to all people. She realized this and connected herself to everyone to get it all back and that is when the first zetsus were made.

The symbolism was existent, But later on Kaguya was being more a being of the tree then a normal person.
She wouldn't be rampaging for all the chakra since she has enough of it. But only one being wants the chakra all for itself, and it is...you guessed it, The Fruit.

 

[Bronze]

1). Kaguya knew the fruit had Chakra, because the Shinju told people not to eat from it. That is how she knew that it had something in it, and power was that something.

2). Kaguya can just be delusional to believe Chakra originally belonged to her.​

 

[Six Paths]

1). Kaguya knew the fruit had Chakra, because the Shinju told people not to eat from it. That is how she knew that it had something in it, and power was that something.

2). Kaguya can just be delusional to believe Chakra originally belonged to her.​

The Shinju never talked, and I doubt it did it even back then.

Delusional? She knows the stole and she can freely accept it, but there is something to it...

 

[Byron123]

That was ingenius indeed! Excellent theory! I had hypothesised that she was connected to it in one way or another but I've never thought that all that was a big lie. It would make perfect sense.

 

[Gyakusetsu]

Bottom line that folks have to decide, is Hagoromo a liar, a chump, or telling version that was true for him.

 

[Six Paths]

That was ingenius indeed! Excellent theory! I had hypothesised that she was connected to it in one way or another but I've never thought that all that was a big lie. It would make perfect sense.

Thanks a lot

Bottom line that folks have to decide, is Hagoromo a liar, a chump, or telling version that was true for him.

I don't understand?

 

[Bronze]

The Shinju never talked, and I doubt it did it even back then.

Delusional? She knows the stole and she can freely accept it, but there is something to it...

It did and the scan is posted by yourself in the OP. It told people not to eat from the fruit.

It can happen. It's just how much she is obsessed with power to the point where she believed it's her's. It happens to thief.​

 

[Klad]

Thanks a lot



I don't understand?

He's saying Hagoromo may be a fraud

 

[Six Paths]

It did and the scan is posted by yourself in the OP. It told people not to eat from the fruit.

It can happen. It's just how much she is obsessed with power to the point where she believed it's her's. It happens to thief.​

Ermmm, No...TheShinju didn't talk. It is a tree after all. It doesn't talk.

And Kaguya might have been obsessed with it, but even she does realise that chakra isn't even hers, and now all the chakra must belong to her? Doesn't that seem a little too odd. And to add, Kaguya though only of Hagomoro, why that? Because he was the one who spread the chakra

He's saying Hagoromo may be a fraud

Ohh, That...
I think Hagormo just did't know about it. It is not liek he didn't want to tell anyone but he left it to Naruto to discover the truth himself. It would make Naruto the bodhisattva, the Sage himself, failed to become

 

[InvaderRaz]

I don't understand?

Was Hago actively lying to naruto and sasuke (and the world) by telling them his mother was from another world.
Was he lied to by his mother and told that story of how she came to be because he took her at her word.
Or was he not told at all and this is just the theory him and his brother came up with to explain her.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Nice read but I still think kaguya is an alien :L