Kaguya learned "Theurgical enlightenment" from this guy , PROOF

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"theurgical enlightenment" aka "gift of gods":

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In anime from 2.30 to 3.30:

I don't remember if that technique was shown in the manga (I think it was , with Asuma against Hidan?) , but Kaguya uses something like that here:

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There has to be a common point between the temple of fire and Kaguya.


What could be the common point between these 2?
It has to be this guy:

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Conclusion 1:Kaguya learned this technique from this "man".
Conclusion 2:This man learned "Theurgical enlightenment" from Kaguya.
 

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u mean chiriku vs hidan ??

nah .. it more sound like Byakugan tech ... but much more evolved
I'm sick.I posted a video and an image that answers your question.
And then you deny all my post (post you didn't read) with your wonderfull explanation:"nah".
Dark legion style.

Byaku tech?...:what:
Asuma and Chiriku have byakugans? :whip:
 
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Good catch, maybe it was her father or is related to her somehow?
Thanks , it tooks me less than a second to make a link between the technique Kaguya uses and the one Chiriku and Asuma uses.

Him being her father could make sense , that would make him coming from a faraway place.Why would his statue be here?

Him being Kaguya's husband , and a "god" or a great warrior from Earth before Kaguya came (like the king of the shintoists tengu) could make sense.
Kaguya would represent another god from another religion (Buddha).

The manga would represent the synchretism between 2 religions.
A bit like the synchretism Shinto/Buddhist (Shingon) that Kukai and a friend thought of , 1000 years before it happens in Japan...
 

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k den chiriku > Kaguya case closed :whip:
Nah I keed ya. Well I think that those were just chakra arms like naruto's but who knows.Since hagoromo was soem kind of priest maybe they all were :O ?
 

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That's exactly what I thought as well man! I think this is a hint about Jashin's entrance! Here is my theory:
 

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k den chiriku > Kaguya case closed :whip:
Nah I keed ya. Well I think that those were just chakra arms like naruto's but who knows.Since hagoromo was soem kind of priest maybe they all were :O ?
*_* Chiriku + Asuma > Kaguya + Hagoromo + Hamura *_*

"Just chakra arms" , Naruto's chakra arms (Yang cloak) are different from Sasuke's (Yin cloak) chakra arms and from Chiriku's chakra arms (maybe Yin/Yang cloak).

Kaguya's wearing could be a priest wearing.
 

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That's exactly what I thought as well man! I think this is a hint about Jashin's entrance! Here is my theory:
That was a nice read.

I like the point where you say that RDS jutsu was made to counter Hidan's capacity that comes from Jashin.
I made 2 threads where it theorizes that Hamura is the shinigami : ,

Your theory goes great with the Hamura=shinigami theory.
The brothers fought their parents , Kaguya+Sojobo the tengu or Jashin , Hamura created a jutsu to seal his father Jashin: the RDS , Hagoromo created a jutsu to seal his mother: the jinchuriki seal.
 
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sLm said:
Naruto was using the same kind of attack. Did he learn it from any of those? No. Period.
*_* Chiriku + Asuma > Kaguya + Hagoromo + Hamura *_*

"Just chakra arms" , Naruto's chakra arms (Yang cloak) are different from Sasuke's (Yin cloak) chakra arms and from Chiriku's chakra arms (maybe Yin/Yang cloak).
Period.*_*
 

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Period.*_*
And so are Kaguya's. Her pseudo-hands also have circle markings on the back of them, like Naruto's, which means they're made of chakra too.

Naruto's chakra arms are nothing special though, he could do it in the uncontrolled cloaked stated, it isn't "Yin" or "Yang" it's a bijuu skill all Jinchuuriki in their Chakra cloak forms can use, though because of Kurama's Bijuu mode/cloak is made of chakra (It's ethereal) not like Bee and Hachibi's full release, he can use it in either form. Kaguya's is not a chakra cloak though, it's like the actual skill (I guess it's technically a chakra cloak).
 

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Naruto's chakra arms are nothing special though, he could do it in the uncontrolled cloaked stated, it isn't "Yin" or "Yang" it's a bijuu skill all Jinchuuriki in their Chakra cloak forms can use, though because of Kurama's Bijuu mode/cloak is made of chakra (It's ethereal) not like Bee and Hachibi's full release, he can use it in either form. Kaguya's is not a chakra cloak though, it's like the actual skill (I guess it's technically a chakra cloak).
There is no proof that Ashura was a Jinchuriki.
Wasn't Mito the first host of Kurama?
Sasuke says it , he has Yin power , his dark cloak represents his Yin , why wouldn't Naruto's shiny cloak do represent his Yang?

I believe Naruto's cloak , Ashura's cloak represents mostly Yang , like the statue behind Naruto in the color page of chap 671.
Sasuke's cloak , Indra's cloak would represent mostly Yin , like the statue behind him.

Chiriku's cloak could represent a god's cloak (I'm referring to "gift of gods") , representing Yin/Yang cooperation.That's just a guess.
 

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There is no proof that Ashura was a Jinchuriki.
Wasn't Mito the first host of Kurama?
Sasuke says it , he has Yin power , his dark cloak represents his Yin , why wouldn't Naruto's shiny cloak do represent his Yang?

I believe Naruto's cloak , Ashura's cloak represents mostly Yang , like the statue behind Naruto in the color page of chap 671.
Sasuke's cloak , Indra's cloak would represent mostly Yin , like the statue behind him.

Chiriku's cloak could represent a god's cloak (I'm referring to "gift of gods") , representing Yin/Yang cooperation.That's just a guess.
Argh. He does represent Yin and so would his Ashura cloak. But his actual KCM/BM can't mean Yin, Minato had the same damn thing! If it was different than it would, but they were identical (Beside the opposite ways seal thing). Right now Naruto isn't/hasn't used Ashura's cloak (Presuming that he even get's/got it). If that makes sense? But, the skill he is using now, all Jinchuuriki can use in their red cloak, v1 and v2. But, Ashura and his cloak is an ethereal cloak too so it has the same ability.

I do agree that Kaguya's and Chiriku's is Yin/Yang, but Naruto hasn't used his Yin part yet. (Again assuming that he will use Ashura's shroud.)

Sasuke's or Indra's Susano'o would be Yang and Ashura's shroud would be Yin. Unless your on about the Yin and Yang markings on their hands?
 
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Argh. He does represent Yin and so would his Ashura cloak. But his actual KCM/BM can't mean Yin, Minato had the same damn thing! If it was different than it would, but they were identical (Beside the opposite ways seal thing). Right now Naruto isn't/hasn't used Ashura's cloak (Presuming that he even get's/got it). If that makes sense? But, the skill he is using now, all Jinchuuriki can use in their red cloak, v1 and v2. But, Ashura and his cloak is an ethereal cloak too so it has the same ability.

I do agree that Kaguya's and Chiriku's is Yin/Yang, but Naruto hasn't used his Yin part yet. (Again assuming that he will use Ashura's shroud.)

Sasuke's or Indra's Susano'o would be Yang and Ashura's shroud would be Yin. Unless your on about the Yin and Yang markings on their hands?
I think you need to understand one thing , Naruto is representing YANG , Sasuke is representing YIN.

For the Minato thing , please read that thread that tries to explain how transmigration works and how Minato was probably a transmigrant of Ashura:
 
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I think you need to understand one thing , Naruto is representing YANG , Sasuke is representing YIN.

For the Minato thing , please read that thread that explains how transmigration works and how Minato was probably a transmigrant of Ashura:
Minato wasn't, it is stated that Hashirama and Madara were the previous hosts. I am not saying that they aren't Yin and Yang, but Naruto Kurama's Bijuu mode isn't a Yin power (I don't mean Kurama's Yin chakra), Ashura's shroud is, also the Markings on their hands.
 

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Minato wasn't, it is stated that Hashirama and Madara were the previous hosts. I am not saying that they aren't Yin and Yang, but Naruto Kurama's Bijuu mode isn't a Yin power (I don't mean Kurama's Yin chakra), Ashura's shroud is, also the Markings on their hands.
Again , Ashura is YANG.

The manga says that Hashirama and Madara were transmigrants of the previous generation , that's a bit different and a lot more vague and ambiguous than what you say.
 
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