(Theory) Madara is actually good guy.

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I realized that maybe Kaguya already casted IT and has been controlling the world since it's inception? Madara after reading the monument realized that the world they are living is fake and decided to free everyone from the terrible genjutsu. Itachi also implied to Sasuke that the world the are living is merely illusion.

Remember when Madara called himself "Saviour"? Yes, It's the moment Madara has been wating to strike down Kaguya.

What's Kaguya's goal you ask? Why she needs an army of Zetsu? For what? It's because some people managed to escape her terrible genjutsu when she casted it for the first time and they went underground and have been hiding all this time. Madara also hid himself in the cave just to avoid the moonlight. Kaguya needs zetsu army to get rid of the poeple underground to completely control the world.

Madara's goal on the other hand is to kill Kaguya and free people from Mugen Tsukyomi.
 

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a good guy that soloed so many people
Tobirama, Minato, Hashirama, etc etc
 

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From a certain point of view, Madara can be considered good. Though what he did wasn't an attempt at peace, it was an attempt at enslaving the SA.
 

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From a certain point of view, Madara can be considered good. Though what he did wasn't an attempt at peace, it was an attempt at enslaving the SA.
Read the OP again.
 

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-He is after the fruit's power and wants to eat it to become the ultimate being.
-He killed and sacrificed countless numbers of people.
-He stated he kills people for fun.

Bad person is judged based on his actions. Not his morals, especially Madara is not morally good guy.​
 

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-He is after the fruit's power and wants to eat it to become the ultimate being.
-He killed and sacrificed countless numbers of people.
-He stated he kills people for fun.

Bad person is judged based on his actions. Not his morals, especially Madara is not morally good guy.​
Thread is not about Madara's morality. It's about Madara being the only one to figure out Kaguya's plan
 

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I pity the madara fanboys .. they are acting so butthurt lately lel
first you all say that madz is the greatest villian and this bullcrsp for what?
 

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I pity the madara fanboys .. they are acting so butthurt lately lel
first you all say that madz is the greatest villian and this bullcrsp for what?
It's just a theory. I'm just trying to connect everything from Kaguya to Madara and why the latter got taken out without any explanation.
 

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so that would mean she was okay with all of the wars that has happened since she started IT, right?
 

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This doesn't even make sense....Madara hid underground because he was a bitter defeated dog that could not show his face to the light of day until he achieved his goal of completing the Infinite Tsukiyomi. It wasn't because Kaguya used the IT and he had to hide...she was dead for thousands of years at that point. He couldn't even move from that place because he had to be connected to the Gedo Mazo to live.

In Madara's mind he is the savior of the world because he is not mentally stable and thinks that an everlasting illusion equals true peace.
 

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This doesn't even make sense....Madara hid underground because he was a bitter defeated dog that could not show his face to the light of day until he achieved his goal of completing the Infinite Tsukiyomi. It wasn't because Kaguya used the IT and he had to hide...she was dead for thousands of years at that point. He couldn't even move from that place because he had to be connected to the Gedo Mazo to live.

In Madara's mind he is the savior of the world because he is not mentally stable and thinks that an everlasting illusion equals true peace.
No. It's too simplistic for Kishi.

Madara hid for a reason not because he was injured. His injury is not even that fatal to be incapaciated for the rest of his life.

It's obviously Madara is avoiding something or someone.
 

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Its a pretty wild thought, I like it, but I would much rather see madara and kaguya go one on one for final villain supremacy and then the winner gets pwned by nardo and sauce
 

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not sure what he did before he got old and connected himself to the gedo to stay alive.. he wanted to be a dictator over people in the IT and be a god. he didnt know about bz or the shinju being kaguya until it was too late. theres no active IT besides the new one...
 

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I realized that maybe Kaguya already casted IT and has been controlling the world since it's inception? Madara after reading the monument realized that the world they are living is fake and decided to free everyone from the terrible genjutsu. Itachi also implied to Sasuke that the world the are living is merely illusion.

Remember when Madara called himself "Saviour"? Yes, It's the moment Madara has been wating to strike down Kaguya.

What's Kaguya's goal you ask? Why she needs an army of Zetsu? For what? It's because some people managed to escape her terrible genjutsu when she casted it for the first time and they went underground and have been hiding all this time. Madara also hid himself in the cave just to avoid the moonlight. Kaguya needs zetsu army to get rid of the poeple underground to completely control the world.

Madara's goal on the other hand is to kill Kaguya and free people from Mugen Tsukyomi.

Lawlz. You just proved your own theory wrong man. You mentioned that kaguya already casted IT and is controlling everyone. If she is indeed controlling the world, then she should have control over every being that is inside IT right.? If she is indeed controlling the genjutsu then all the people in nv are just illusions including madara( as you said he read the stone and is trying to break the genjutsu). Well, how do u explain that.?
 

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This doesn't even make sense....Madara hid underground because he was a bitter defeated dog that could not show his face to the light of day until he achieved his goal of completing the Infinite Tsukiyomi. It wasn't because Kaguya used the IT and he had to hide...she was dead for thousands of years at that point. He couldn't even move from that place because he had to be connected to the Gedo Mazo to live.

In Madara's mind he is the savior of the world because he is not mentally stable and thinks that an everlasting illusion equals true peace.

I agree with this^^
 

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I realized that maybe Kaguya already casted IT and has been controlling the world since it's inception? Madara after reading the monument realized that the world they are living is fake and decided to free everyone from the terrible genjutsu. Itachi also implied to Sasuke that the world the are living is merely illusion.

Remember when Madara called himself "Saviour"? Yes, It's the moment Madara has been wating to strike down Kaguya.

What's Kaguya's goal you ask? Why she needs an army of Zetsu? For what? It's because some people managed to escape her terrible genjutsu when she casted it for the first time and they went underground and have been hiding all this time. Madara also hid himself in the cave just to avoid the moonlight. Kaguya needs zetsu army to get rid of the poeple underground to completely control the world.

Madara's goal on the other hand is to kill Kaguya and free people from Mugen Tsukyomi.

The road to Hell is pave with good intentions.
 
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