Manga Proof: Why Sasuke's Teleportation is far inferior to the Hiraishin no Jutsu!!

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If you're use this as your evidence you really are lacking in the reading comprehension department and you should just drop the manga all together, having a bit of common sense would let you know that its because obito is near death is the reason why his interdimensional travel was slow as before that he easily moved back and forth through dimensions.
Wow the bs that spews from these morons mouths.

1. Where does it ever state Kamui speed is effected by the condition of the user.

2. Obito is far from near death. He has parts of the tailed beast inside him and was able to suck out sennin mode. (He sucked out parts of Madaras power)

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Humor me because your arrogant idiocy is astounding and I would love to see this thread stay alive to showcase how dumbfounded the OP's logic is.
 
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Yeah it is actually also mad fanboys need to keep their anger in check
They really need to work on their anger issues.

Great thread as always minator.

Hiraishin solos neg diff. Dante knows it lol
Thanks :)

If you're use this as your evidence you really are lacking in the reading comprehension department and you should just drop the manga all together, having a bit of common sense would let you know that its because obito is near death is the reason why his interdimensional travel was slow as before that he easily moved back and forth through dimensions.
Words are wasted on him.

Beautiful thread, Minator. #SasukeFansBeMad
Thanks :)

Godking Tobirama and minato >>>> Sasky
Ofc :cool:

Oh looks, it's another Minatardor thread


We don't even know the full scale of Sauce's ability, stop making petty assumptions
Manga scans aren't assumptions U_U
 

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Both Minato and Tobirama got shitted on by Madara. One lost his only good arm while the other got filled with black rods. Where was their escapism then? Yet against an even stronger Madara who decided to rip Sasuke's eye out, he could escape, and the technique even bewildered Madara, something Hiraishin could not do. Madara reacted to there technique before he even became Juubi Jin. Sauce on the other hand shitted on a stronger Madara with his technique. The point comparing Naruto's speed and Sasuke teleportation hurts not helps your point. You underlined Sasuke's feet and assumed he was prepping his technique. Fanfaction. What happened, is Naruto getting a head start, Sasuke prepping his Chidori, and standing still, and still managing to strike at the same time. Hiraishin is inferior because it requires seals. Sasuke's requires no prep whatsoever. Hell he could even teleport Madara directly into his and Naruto's attack. It took both Tobirama and Minato to do something similar, and they had to have a mark already present.


You can hate Sasuke and stay in denial all you want, but we all know what happened when Tobirama and Minato attacked him with their Hiraishin, and how badly Sasuke trolled Madara with his Rinnegan.
 
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His jutsus inferior because he dint gt solod by madar when he used it not to mention it allowed him to keep up with madara. Speed of sasukes pawns minatos.
Not to forget to mention any rinnegan tech would pawn any non rinnegan tech of same ability purely because the rinnegan users jutsu are at the peak of there types. So if it was teleportation by defqult it pawns minatos. Fan boyz need to let it go minato became irrelavant after fighting jyubito.
 

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Agreed, nice thread.
Thanks :)

Both Minato and Tobirama got shitted on by Madara. One lost his only good arm while the other got filled with black rods. Where was their escapism then? Yet against an even stronger Madara who decided to rip Sasuke's eye out, he could escape, and the technique even bewildered Madara, something Hiraishin could not do. Madara reacted to there technique before he even became Juubi Jin. Sauce on the other hand shitted on a stronger Madara with his technique. The point comparing Naruto's speed and Sasuke teleportation hurts not helps your point. You underlined Sasuke's feet and assumed he was prepping his technique. Fanfaction. What happened, is Naruto getting a head start, Sasuke prepping his Chidori, and standing still, and still managing to strike at the same time. Hiraishin is inferior because it requires seals. Sasuke's requires no prep whatsoever. Hell he could even teleport Madara directly into his and Naruto's attack. It took both Tobirama and Minato to do something similar, and they had to have a mark already present.


You can hate Sasuke and stay in denial all you want, but we all know what happened when Tobirama and Minato attacked him with their Hiraishin, and how badly Sasuke trolled Madara with his Rinnegan.
Reason you say?

 

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I think i should add a few more points

-the notion that hiraishin is 'inferior' because it requires seals is laughable, minato has no shortage of seals and no problem in spreading kunais to where he wants to go, in any of his fights

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-he has used teleportation continuously with little to no gap in between

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reinforced by the fact that if you blink you miss the fight or you drop dead

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though I do not expect stubborn people to concede, its just like minato being a sensor, people will live in denial until kishi shoves it down their throat
 
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Also, in the off-paneled fight with Gai, Madara only had one of those balls left. Kakashi most likely kamui'd more of them away since he was the only one visibly exhausted other than Gai :cool:
Ofc.

1. Madara lost 5 Onmyoudon spheres against Minato.
2. Madara lost 1 Onmyoudon spheres against Kakashi's Kamui.
3. Madara lost his staff and 2 Onmyoudon spheres against Gai.

He was in a very weakened state [had lost most of his power] when he faced Naruto or Sasuke U_U

Could you have made a more confusing post?
How is it confusing?

Madara only needed his staff to pawn minato. Losing his gudodamas wouldn't change the result of minato getting his ass handed to him
Lel Full Onmyoudon Powered Juubi Jin Madara needed full info to beat a handicapped Minato who was incapable of using his vast Ninjutsu [and also lacked knowledge] Lol
 

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I think i should add a few more points

-the notion that hiraishin is 'inferior' because it requires seals is laughable, minato has no shortage of seals and no problem in spreading kunais to where he wants to go, in any of his fights

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-he has used teleportation continuously with little to no gap in between

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reinforced by the fact that if you blink you miss the fight or you drop dead

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though I do not expect stubborn people to concede, its just like minato being a sensor, people will live in denial until kishi shoves it down their throat
Nice input as always EoD :)
 

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Also, in the off-paneled fight with Gai, Madara only had one of those balls left. Kakashi most likely kamui'd more of them away since he was the only one visibly exhausted other than Gai :cool:
he had his staff, same staf he used to shit on minato. he can easily use that but unfortunately sasuke is not minato as the latter was too fast.
 

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Lemmme clear something hear.Naruto used his speed to run there but sasuke used the Teleportation so its obvious why naruto is slower.Naruto is faster than SAsuke in base speed.by running
 

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Ofc.

1. Madara lost 5 Onmyoudon spheres against Minato.
2. Madara lost 1 Onmyoudon spheres against Kakashi's Kamui.
3. Madara lost his staff and 2 Onmyoudon spheres against Gai.

He was in a very weakened state [had lost most of his power] when he faced Naruto or Sasuke U_U



How is it confusing?



Lel Full Onmyoudon Powered Juubi Jin Madara needed full info to beat a handicapped Minato who was incapable of using his vast Ninjutsu [and also lacked knowledge] Lol
fail. he absorbed the shinju so he wasnt weakened. plus he used limbo against them something he didnt even use against minato and co. and btw, madara had his staff against them, go and reread. he can shape that into anything he wants. its just that the duo(esp sasuke) were dominating him so bad he realised he needed his second rinnegan to compete
 

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*Sigh*.
I skim read it, too long and not that interested.

You speak of manga facts.



The logic behind those two scans like kamui also applies to Sasuke’s. So no you are wrong, the manga and character statements from minato/Kakashi have put kamui above hiraishin and since the logic behind their reasons is correct it applies to sasuke’s jutsu as well.

Speed:
Both hiraishin and Sasuke’s technique are instant.
Current naruto's foot speed should be faster than his bm mode as his abilities has been upgraded by both the sage and obito. He may rival juubi jin obito. Yet after getting a head start, sasuke still appeared before him. Take note that, the shorter the distance the harder it is to tell how fast a teleporter and a foot speed user is.

For example in a 10m race between a teleporter and a character with insane footspeed, you would barely be able to tell who gets to the destination first. However the greater the distance, the clearer the gap in speed between a teleporter and a user with extreme foot speed becomes.

If Minato and 8 Gate Gai was to race in a 10M race you would barely be able to tell who gets there first. However lets say minato had a kunai in kumo and he and 8 gate gai was to race, the difference in speed will be far too great for all to see.

The very fact that in a short distance where a teleporter and a user of extreme foot speed it would be hard to tell who gets to the desired destination first, yet Naruto getting a head start, yet sasuke still appearing before him shows that sasuke’s ability is nothing short of instant. Even at such a distance and Naruto getting a head start, sasuke’s speed was still evident is more than enough to say his technique is instant.

As for your preparation, it doesn’t register. Nothing states that sasuke’s was preparing to use the technique, and if anything hiraishin users require more preparation with either administering the seals to weapons then/or spreading the weapons. Finally on numerous occasions seeing Minato forming the seals of confrontation in order to gather the necessary chakra to teleport.

Range:

The only person with a limitless range is Obito. Neither hiraishin users or sasuke have limitless range. Hiraishin users are restricted to seals and cannot teleport at will without it. With little knowledge on sasuke’s technique I believe he may be the epicentre and there may be a radius to where he teleports. But you see if sasuke is the epicentre that means wherever sasuke is, within that radius he can teleport, which in some respect is still better than hiraishin.


We still have limited knowledge on sasuke’s technique yet you feel the need to downplay his abilities as always. What we do know is that sasuke’s technique has the best of both worlds (Hiraishin & Kamui). His technique it instant, but also doesn’t require seals. The downsides so far is that, unlike kamui is has a range and with hiraishin he doesn’t have the versatility. Sasuke is still getting used to his new abilities and once he masters it he may increase this range, but even then I still do not see him teleporting all over the place as that isn’t his fighting style.

Finally his technique is a rinnegans technique. In the latest chapter Kaguya noted that the sage has given them (Naurot & Sasuke) his techniques. Such hype is enough to say that, his teleporting ability should be greater than what we have seen. Perhaps not enough feats and information given, but it should sink in, in due time.
 
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