Jiraiya vs Kisame

[Apêx1]

1000 sharks is countered by Gamabunta hopping away.

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[Beans2]

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I don't understand why you think those sharks are faster than Bunta. Gamabunta's leaps cover incredible distances.

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And he jumped all the way to the juubi from this point. Look at what a massive jump that is

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[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Jman should take
It summoning boss summons should b able to hold off kisame till he can get into sage mode after tht he should be able to put kisame down high diff

 

[Oblivionx]

kisame already admitted inferiority... he isn't in jiraya's league....

 

[Draegod]

Genjutsu took a very long time to execute. Sound waves aren't moving beneath water. Summoning Shima and Fukasaku requires the ritual in addition to an entire chapter of hands clapped, which isn't possible when there's suiton drowning you.

Did you just state Sounds waves don't move under water????????????????????????????????????????

 

[Apêx1]

Did you just state Sounds waves don't move under water????????????????????????????????????????

No, mis-communicated message. I meant it is never reaching Kisame given a closed location was required in the last fight. Water would hypothetically be the counterpart for Sound genjutsu in NV given the sound waves will never reach Kisame.

 

[Beans2]

No, mis-communicated message. I meant it is never reaching Kisame given a closed location was required in the last fight. Water would hypothetically be the counterpart for Sound genjutsu in NV given the sound waves will never reach Kisame.

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[Apêx1]

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What's this implying. I already claimed I know water conducts sound. What I claimed (and is true) is that aqueous environments don't conduct sound as good as a gaseous environment, not even close.

 

[Beans2]

What's this implying. I already claimed I know water conducts sound. What I claimed (and is true) is that aqueous environments don't conduct sound as good as a gaseous environment, not even close.

The genjutsu would still work. Killer Bee and Kisame were having conversations underwater, they can hear each other.

 

[Apêx1]

The genjutsu would still work. Killer Bee and Kisame were having conversations underwater, they can hear each other.

True, but then again Jiraiya is never getting into SM/summoning them lmao.

 

[Beans2]

True, but then again Jiraiya is never getting into SM/summoning them lmao.

if that's what you want to believe.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Jiraiya wins ill explain if need be.

Kisame roflstomps.

Terrible just Terrible,

 

[Apêx1]

Lml forcing your opinion on people isn't the most intelligent thing to do. More so, you should stop acting like you're a big boi (10-1, such wows) debater given your entire explanation will most likely be ridiculous.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Jiraiya wins imo. If they're fighting on land that is.... If it's near water , Kisam will probably win

 

[End of Days]

One toad has shown that capability, and it suits him because he's an espionage type. So you're saying Jiraiya summons a toad and Kisame doesn't notice?.. You're saying Kisame can't do

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and absolutely crush the toad? You're saying Jiraiya has a counter for

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Every toad can remain underwater for extended periods of time, for example this toad who has a space barrier inside him [

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He shits on 1000 sharks the same way gai did, by using fire [

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[slaton02]

Kisame wins, Juraiya doesn't have much to kill Kisame with and Samehada won't turn to stone from absorbing senjutsu people get your fact straight. Unbalanced sage chakra turns you to stone. Preta path had no probably absorbing naruto sage mode and techs untill he held naruto down, who then gathered unbalanced chakra. GSB wins it for Kisame.

 

[Apêx1]

Every toad can remain underwater for extended periods of time, for example this toad who has a space barrier inside him [

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He shits on 1000 sharks the same way gai did, by using fire [

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How does this prove anything? Every animal can survive under water for a certain amount of time. Toads can do it for longer amounts of times than other organims, but they cannot breath under the water, which is my point.

Orlly? The same Gai that was using Fire at massive speed? The same Gai who was using the massive paced fire that admitted he couldn't take them all out? Thought it was clear it wasn't remotely close enough to stop it [

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] It is quite clear he said there are too many, hence he used Hiruodara. He couldn't take them out with his mere fire. For your second point, I disagree, The same can be done once again, If Jiraiya does in fact use his Katno+Oil Kisame follows through his 1000 sharks with Daikodan (once again) and absorbs the fire and oil to become massive and kill Jiraiya.

 

[Black Wolf]

Knowledge and location are extremely critical here.

Regardless, I'd give the edge to Kisame. His Suitons handily take care of Jiraiya's main offensive element (Katon), and his large-scale attacks in general will make it nigh impossibly to enter Sage Mode. If Frogs are summoned, Kisame can spit out a tidal wave of sharks to devour them. Even in Sage Mode, I can't see Jiraiya surviving the Water Dome.

I feel like Kisame is heavily underrated based on a Part I statement that was made purely on Jiraiya's reputation rather than observed capability, and we have seen just how "out-of-hand" rumors are reputation can get. Mist shinobi thought that 12 year old Sasuke was the one who killed Zabuza, afterall.