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He's soooooooooooooo coooooooooooooool :flowers
He's a great villain, it's all about how you go about your evil ways Lol "The Lannisters send their regards."

Petyr Baelish is my favorite character by a decent margin. He's quite possibly the most intelligent character in the show. So far.
It bothers me when people say he's evil. He isn't. He's opportunistic.

I like Roose because of how sinister he is. Before we always believed Tywin to be the grandest schemer, but now we see challengers that rival his own wit.

They all have a staunch and fearsome presence and that's what I like. Before it was good vs bad like Rob, Ned, Renly, who were good. Now it's evil pitted against evil. They don't follow rules of honor, but now they strike at every opportunity which makes it that much more intense.


Balish is awesome and he looks like Gary Oldman which makes it even more awesome haha. It's crazy how much involved he was with the events of the plot.
 

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1- I already had your idea .

2- But we don't have so much proofs .

3- But why a mother would be angry at her son , if she turned into the Juubi , thats mean she lost control over her power ,

as hagoromo said , so being sealed in my opinion is better for her .
 

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She maybe the Shinju, but not the Juubi.​
 

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1- I already had your idea .

2- But we don't have so much proofs .

3- But why a mother would be angry at her son , if she turned into the Juubi , thats mean she lost control over her power ,

as hagoromo said , so being sealed in my opinion is better for her .

I was probably the first one to make the theory since I made it when Kaguya was first mentioned

Here's the answer to your questions

 

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I like Roose because of how sinister he is. Before we always believed Tywin to be the grandest schemer, but now we see challengers that rival his own wit.

They all have a staunch and fearsome presence and that's what I like. Before it was good vs bad like Rob, Ned, Renly, who were good. Now it's evil pitted against evil. They don't follow rules of honor, but now they strike at every opportunity which makes it that much more intense.


Balish is awesome and he looks like Gary Oldman which makes it even more awesome haha. It's crazy how much involved he was with the events of the plot.

Ehhhh, I'm not entirely sure of that. I see very few people being a match for Tywin. Tyrion (cough), Baelish, and... Olessa Tyrell. That's about it I think :/

Really the only forces of "good" left in the show are Tyrion to an extent, Arya to an extent, Sansa to an extent, Jaime Lannister, Bran Stark and Jon Snow. Everyone else is too damn dead.

I know XD
Whenever Petyr was revealed to be the one to rescue Sansa from the wedding I was like "wait... Then wouldn't that mean..."
And then he admitted it!! I freaked XD
 
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Ehhhh, I'm not entirely sure of that. I see very few people being a match for Tywin. Tyrion (cough), Baelish, and... Olessa Tyrell. That's about it I think :/

Really the only forces of "good" left in the show are Tyrion to an extent, Arya to an extent, Bran Stark and Jon Snow. Everyone else is too damn dead.

I know XD
Whenever Petyr was revealed to be the one to rescue Sansa from the wedding I was like "wait... Then wouldn't that mean..."
And then he admitted it!! I freaked XD


Yeah, when Varris said he was the most dangerous person in westeros, I didn't believe it. But now I think I might.

But let's not forget Stannis. He's still in the picture! He's like lawful neutral. The man believes in the law more than morals.

I kinda know what happens with him, but I am pretty happy with it as well. He's one of my favorites.
 

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I agree. If the I.T was suppose to be the Shinju tech why was Kaguya face shown.
 

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Yeah, when Varris said he was the most dangerous person in westeros, I didn't believe it. But now I think I might.

But let's not forget Stannis. He's still in the picture! He's like lawful neutral. The man believes in the law more than morals.

I kinda know what happens with him, but I am pretty happy with it as well. He's one of my favorites.

I didn't really either... Then he gave the "chaos is a ladder" speech. Then I started to realize Petyr means f*cking business.

Yes! Stannis!! I think, aside from Bran and Daenerys, he'd make the best king. Well, first he'd have to shake Melisandre off of him Lol
I'm very interested in his rebellion and how he's going to continue the fight.

And Jorah... Jorah Mormont. Suuucks what happened :/
 

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I didn't really either... Then he gave the "chaos is a ladder" speech. Then I started to realize Petyr means f*cking business.

Yes! Stannis!! I think, aside from Bran and Daenerys, he'd make the best king. Well, first he'd have to shake Melisandre off of him Lol
I'm very interested in his rebellion and how he's going to continue the fight.

And Jorah... Jorah Mormont. Suuucks what happened :/

I love how Daenerys didn't even give him a chance to explain. He was with her since the beginning. Not really fair if you ask me.

But it would be interesting to see him make his way back to westeros and see how corrupted it got. Also learn of his father's death(Old Night Watch Lord Commander)
 

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I was probably the first one to make the theory since I made it when Kaguya was first mentioned

Here's the answer to your questions



You said thanks to the combination between the two brothers they were able to defeat Kaguya , but

I don't agree with , in my opinion because she lost control over her body she turned into the Juubi , and Juubi

isn't as strong as Kaguya , thats why they were able to win ( because she lost control over her power ) and also for another theory if she was the gedo mazo , why that state doesn't has the

form of a women , that state has a form of a man not a women , so what if that state was the state of Hamura .
 

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Juubi and the Shinju are not the same thing. It's proven when Juubi turned into Gedo Mazou after extracted from Obito, and the Shinju remained there. Kaguya is the Shinju. Not the Juubi.​
 

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Juubi and the Shinju are not the same thing. It's proven when Juubi turned into Gedo Mazou after extracted from Obito, and the Shinju remained there. Kaguya is the Shinju. Not the Juubi.​

Sure why not. They're so similar I don't really care which she is, if they're not the same thing.
 

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You said thanks to the combination between the two brothers they were able to defeat Kaguya , but

I don't agree with , in my opinion because she lost control over her body she turned into the Juubi , and Juubi

isn't as strong as Kaguya , thats why they were able to win ( because she lost control over her power ) and also for another theory if she was the gedo mazo , why that state doesn't has the

form of a women , that state has a form of a man not a women , so what if that state was the state of Hamura .

That wouldn't make sense. She was worshiped as a demon and her form must have changed. The juubi is comprised of Senjutsu and we know that too much Senjutsu can morph one's appearance.

The Gedo Mazou is called the Demon Heretical Statue and Kaguya was called a Demon. Two and two go together.


Also while Madara was connected to the Gedo, he created black zetsu which turned out to be Kaguya's will.

The only explanation is that Kaguya was the Gedo and was influencing Madara at the time.
 

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If you don't care that much, why make a thread?​

Because I never realized there was a difference between Ten Tails and the Shinju. Seemed to me they were the same thing what with the Juubi merely being the manifestation of the Shinju's rage. Juubi, Shinju. If there is a difference, I don't care what it is. The point of this thread is that Kaguya is not just Kaguya alone. Get it?
 

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all shinjus are juubis but not all juubiis are shinjus? or vice versa... it confuses me lol
 

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all shinjus are juubis but not all juubiis are shinjus? or vice versa... it confuses me lol

It's confusing someone; but when Madara absorbed the Shinju, his cloak became more complete showing they're different entities.​
 

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That wouldn't make sense. She was worshiped as a demon and her form must have changed. The juubi is comprised of Senjutsu and we know that too much Senjutsu can morph one's appearance.

The Gedo Mazou is called the Demon Heretical Statue and Kaguya was called a Demon. Two and two go together.


Also while Madara was connected to the Gedo, he created black zetsu which turned out to be Kaguya's will.

The only explanation is that Kaguya was the Gedo and was influencing Madara at the time.


The black zetsu is the strongest proof of Kaguya being the Juubi , so i agree about this .

But what you said about Senjutsu morph one's appearance , you have a point of view but that doesn't

mean it will be right 100% .
 
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The black zetsu is the strongest proof of Kaguya being the Juubi , so i agree about this .

But what you said about Senjutsu morph one's appearance , you have a point of view but that doesn't

mean it will be right 100% .

That's why it's called a theory.

But there is more evidence to my theory being correct than not
 

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That's why it's called a theory.

But there is more evidence to my theory being correct than not

I will make a thread about Hamura being a mazo state it will just be a theory , i would like to hear people's thoughts and ideas

about this subject .
 
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