RustledJimmies
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The difference is that he would be able to warp in front of Madara at any moment if he marked Madara, but he would still need to strike him with his own speed, and Manga has shown that he lacks the striking speed to do so.
Manga Proof: Why Sasuke's Teleportation is far inferior to the Hiraishin no Jutsu!!
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Da Best Ever
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That is a flaw in ftg right there. Because the user has to make an attack afterwards which leaves the ftg user open to be destroyed like they were while sasuk jutsu is the attack
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He owned Ragedasco, he could've won in 3 against monflies but was cramping + crowd pressure choke. Against Humbalito he has a decent chance.
OT: I would prefer Hiraishin in 1v1 as well
True, did you know ferrer admitted that he gave up in the last 2 sets? Hilarious...XD
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yup Failsuke doesnt have shit on FTG
Tobirama and minato teleport circles around his ass with no cooldown and actually do damage to there targets XD
Tobirama and minato teleport circles around his ass with no cooldown and actually do damage to there targets XD
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I'll comment on your thread as I go along in your theory
I think you're underestimating Naruto's speed. Remember, he's keeping up with Juubi Madara, arguably the fastest character barr 8th Gate Gai. Naruto's just that fast to be able to cover that much ground before Sasuke even teleported, which is instant.
You're underestimating Naruto's speed here, and his knuckleheadedness. It's not that Sasuke had a prep time imo, but rather Naruto decided to take the lead knowing Sasuke's teleporation is instant.
And what if their target was further away? like 100 meters out, the relative distance traveled by Naruto would remain the same because that's his speed, but if that distance is in Sasuke's range, then he would still get there instantly, making your point about Naruto's speed in comparison to Sasuke's teleportation null and void
I think you're underestimating Naruto's speed. Remember, he's keeping up with Juubi Madara, arguably the fastest character barr 8th Gate Gai. Naruto's just that fast to be able to cover that much ground before Sasuke even teleported, which is instant.
You're underestimating Naruto's speed here, and his knuckleheadedness. It's not that Sasuke had a prep time imo, but rather Naruto decided to take the lead knowing Sasuke's teleporation is instant.
And what if their target was further away? like 100 meters out, the relative distance traveled by Naruto would remain the same because that's his speed, but if that distance is in Sasuke's range, then he would still get there instantly, making your point about Naruto's speed in comparison to Sasuke's teleportation null and void
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Agreed. The only good thing about watching ferrer is that he always swears in Spanish and gets away with it!.(He screams "PUTA" all the time)
Go see KCM Minato vs Rinnegan Minato U_U
What really? That's disgusting.
Yeah Dull's draw has been Hilarious till this point but I really think Andy can do some damage.
Indeed
RustledJimmies
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It doesn't change the fact that Madara was able to strike him immediately after with multiple blows and Minato couldn't react to any of them, while I agree that he didn't defeat FTG speed (It's impossible to defeat teleportation speed after all), that's still a flaw in FTG as he still needs the necessary striking speed to hit his opponent, something Minato lacked when he tried (and failed) to blitz Madara, Sasuke's teleportation on the other hand doesn't require him to move an inch, if his opponent is in his range, he can instantly teleport a sword to their head.
He went straight after Sasuke, Rinnegan wasn't his priority, he went to kill Sasuke and Sasuke teleported a sword to his chest, if you're talking about the time he cut Madara in half, that wasn't even teleportation.
I think you mean Rinnegan Obito, and nothing changes, he still warped in front of Obito like I said and needed to swing his Kunai (with his own speed) at Obito, not to mention Obito was paralyzed and doesn't have Juubi Jin Madara's reactions.
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Da Best Ever
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Has ftg ever went up against Kaguya? No so how do you know it can escape her when it was used by minato it barely escape juubito and lost an arm doing so and juubito is far less than Kaguya so there is no way ftg is not going to escape Kaguya
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I think your theory relies too much on speculation given we haven't been told all that much about Sasuke's abilities.
And I think you're speculating too much and riding it off as facts when you're talking about Kaguya restraining Sasuke and Naruto.
Again, to each the individual. Would you rather have unlimited range in your teleporation or would you rather be able to releport anywhere within range without having to have it previously marked? Cause imo instant is instant and one can't be faster than the other.
If there's a cooldown time with Sasuke's move--which we don't know concretely that there is or isn't yet--then I'd choose FTG as the better teleportation variant
And I think you're speculating too much and riding it off as facts when you're talking about Kaguya restraining Sasuke and Naruto.
Again, to each the individual. Would you rather have unlimited range in your teleporation or would you rather be able to releport anywhere within range without having to have it previously marked? Cause imo instant is instant and one can't be faster than the other.
If there's a cooldown time with Sasuke's move--which we don't know concretely that there is or isn't yet--then I'd choose FTG as the better teleportation variant
Lol. You obviously didn't read the thread title. He's not saying that at all. He's saying ftg is superior all around. Don't put words in his mouth. I've already said both have advantages and disadvantages but posting a thread full of only ftg advantages and sasukes rinnegan disadvantages is wank. Please gtfo.
Black Zetsu? what that wasn't BZ that was Kaguya. Madara caught him plain and simple. Juubito caught him as well. No need to make up excuses with small details. Ftg isn't fast enough to catch Madara off guard and that's canon. The kunai at his feet just goes to show you guys need to stop wanking it so much and see that it's not that great if you can clearly see where the person will teleport.
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Da Best Ever
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Lmao dude we get it. It is instant but it fails because it is not a attack so the user teleport and then has to use another jutsu to attack and in that time they get countered while sasuke teleportation is simultaneously in unison with his attack and or can be the attack
Jimihendrix
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And Naruto now is that much faster... again. You're underestimating Naruto's new speed here.
Instant cannot be faster than instant, this must be like a law of physics or something
Sharingan King
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Great attempt.
However, as already pointed out, Sasuke's jutsu is much more suited for battle. The need for markings is one major handycap of FTG. Ninjas usually start battle a couple metres apart. This means that a FTG user must first throw a kunai at their opponent and then teleport. As you already pointed out Sasuke's jutsu has a range of about 200 metres. Most ninja fights start in a smaller range than 200 metres, which means that from the start of the battle, Sasuke can blitz and one-shot his opponents. The need to throw kunais and place markings, makes FTG less deadly than Sasuke's Rinnnegan tech in battle.
Sasuke's jutsu has no noticeable prep time. One could argue that he waited to attack Madara at the same time as Naruto. If there was prep time, then he wouldn't have been able to dodge Madara's lightning attack.
Essentially, battle wise Sasuke's jutsu is better; distance wise, FTG is better.
However, as already pointed out, Sasuke's jutsu is much more suited for battle. The need for markings is one major handycap of FTG. Ninjas usually start battle a couple metres apart. This means that a FTG user must first throw a kunai at their opponent and then teleport. As you already pointed out Sasuke's jutsu has a range of about 200 metres. Most ninja fights start in a smaller range than 200 metres, which means that from the start of the battle, Sasuke can blitz and one-shot his opponents. The need to throw kunais and place markings, makes FTG less deadly than Sasuke's Rinnnegan tech in battle.
Sasuke's jutsu has no noticeable prep time. One could argue that he waited to attack Madara at the same time as Naruto. If there was prep time, then he wouldn't have been able to dodge Madara's lightning attack.
Essentially, battle wise Sasuke's jutsu is better; distance wise, FTG is better.
Da Best Ever
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I can agree with this but be specific because ftg would only be more useful not better and it would only be more useful vs none sage or juubi powered individuals
Ftg is mmore useful not better
Yeah I meant Obito Lol
Not really, you can prepare an attack earlier and then teleport, just like Minato beat Mangekyo Tobi [Tobi was utlising light speed Kamui in-between U_U]
Exactly bro.
Lel with Hiraishin Minato escaped the Shinju's binding, doesn't need to go up against Kaguya [Minato will use Level 3 on her in the future though] as said the manga is absolute, it can escape anything U_U
1. First of all it's not a theory it's a manga proof as everything is backed up by the manga U_U
2. I'm not speculation at all I've offered all the manga proof.
3. Not only unlimited range but better speed, complete escapism, the variants namely barrier, level2, level3, goshun mawashi, chakra link [Sasuke offers nothing]
4. There possibly is a cool-down [not confirmed] but even without one Hiraishin is greater U_U
RustledJimmies
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Even if he prepares an attack earlier and teleport, in order to land said attack, he'll have to use his own striking speed to land it after he's teleported, and in that small gap of time, it can be countered, just like Madara did.