If Sasuke had Preta Path

[Conspirator.]

Dumbest thread of the day.........(aside from the usual trolls)

 

[AntonChigurh]

naruto faster than sasuke?
Well manga doesnt agree so

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In this frame, Sasuke got a head start Naruto and Naruto still matched him at the point of attack and was able to parry Madara's shadow and still rescue Sakura

Sasuke was using Space time jutsu in the frame you showed

We will see if Naruto has space time jutsu shortly

non space time jutsu:

naruto is faster

 

[Tera Path]

Dumbest thread of the day.........(aside from the usual trolls)

At least I'm not a troll
Not really a stupid thread, if I just hadn't added that Sasuke could then be on par or stronger part, this would've been a normal thread instead of another discussion about Naruto or Sasuke being stronger.

 

[AntonChigurh]

How is Naruto faster? In current chapter Sasuke let Naruto get a head start and he still ended up at at the destination b4 Naruto.

Strength and raw power go to Naruto

Visual prowess=sensory

Sasuke is more intelligent

Skill goes to Sasuke as well

Naruto has more endurance thanks to his large reserves yet Sasuke's techniques are less taxing and he should also have Preta path which absorbs chakra

They r equal

He got there faster using space time.

In the post above this one, I showed who is faster without using the space time jutsu

As I also will say again, battle intelligence differs from battle instincts

Sasuke has higher combat intelligence but Naruto has higher battle instincts

Sasuke is better at observing and calculating

Naruto is better at adapting and reacting

 

[ANiMUS]

We don't know too much about Sasuke's teleportation, so I'll leave it at that.
And there was a loss of tomoe, Sasuke started out with 10 tomoe when we first saw his sharingan/rinnegan, but it went back to 7/6 (7 if you're counting the middle one/pupil), and it reverted to 10 this chapter.

Cut/chidori'd explained in same post.
And, if my theory is correct Sasuke has a limited amount of uses for that technique, so eventually he would wait before he could use it again.
I agree, Sasuke could keep up with Juubito, but Sasuke did have a Kyuubi cloak there.
And, keep in mind, Naruto should be faster than he was in BSM, and Naruto utilizes clones too.
Plus, Sasuke sees, whereas Naruto senses.
Sasuke can only dodge what he sees, but Naruto senses everything.



I'm not sure actually, but that doesn't matter IMO, because a SM Madara reacted to a FTG from Tobirama while he was behind him.

Actually the highest count of Tomoe was 9 and since then the highest it has gone is six. When I said that Kishimoto has been botching up Sasuke's Rinnengan it's because the have been numerous times that Kishimoto has drawn Sasuke with no Tomoe at all without Sasuke even using the technique.

Tobirama was still some distance away whereas Sasuke can teleport u to point blank range

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In this frame, Sasuke got a head start Naruto and Naruto still matched him at the point of attack and was able to parry Madara's shadow and still rescue Sakura

Sasuke was using Space time jutsu in the frame you showed

We will see if Naruto has space time jutsu shortly

non space time jutsu:

naruto is faster

Now this is just stupid. Neither of them were running at full speed. DO U REALLY THINK THAT NARUTO AND SASUKE CANT CATCH UP TO SAKURA XD

 

[Conspirator.]

At least I'm not a troll
Not really a stupid thread, if I just hadn't added that Sasuke could then be on par or stronger part, this would've been a normal thread instead of another discussion about Naruto or Sasuke being stronger.

My point is: Having the preta path would have made little difference given kaguya's power is nearly infinite.

 

[Tera Path]

Actually the highest count of Tomoe was 9 and since then the highest it has gone is six. When I said that Kishimoto has been botching up Sasuke's Rinnengan it's because the have been numerous times that Kishimoto has drawn Sasuke with no Tomoe at all without Sasuke even using the technique.

Tobirama was still some distance away whereas Sasuke can teleport u to point blank range

Oh yeah I forgot, last chapter he was drawn with a regular Rinnegan.

But the teleportation technique wasn't the problem in Minato's and Tobirama's case, it was both instant, so the same speed.
The problem was the fact that their attacks aren't instant, and not being instant is good enough for Madara to react.

If Minato and Tobirama were much faster, they could've landed a hit or 2, and not of gotten demolished.

My point is: Having the preta path would have made little difference given kaguya's power is nearly infinite.

Preta Path is an endless swamp of chakra, there is a databook scan about it I think?
I don't know where people get that from, but if someone reads this and knows how to get it, please post it for me.

Absorbing infinite chakra shouldn't be a problem, as long as it doesn't have nature energy.
It would just take longer, that is all.

Edit: Googled it and I found it

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[ANiMUS]

Oh yeah I forgot, last chapter he was drawn with a regular Rinnegan.

But the teleportation technique wasn't the problem in Minato's and Tobirama's case, it was both instant, so the same speed.
The problem was the fact that their attacks aren't instant, and not being instant is good enough for Madara to react.

If Minato and Tobirama were much faster, they could've landed a hit or 2, and not of gotten demolished.

My point was the were still a few feet away. That's one of the problems with FTG it will put u a couple feet or so away from your target, but never point blank with 0 distance between u. In that time frame of the FTG user closing the remaining distance if the target has far superior reflexes like Madara did then the target can counter, but Sasuke's technique leaves no distance

It wasn't just last chapter. He has been doing it a lot and there have also been times where Sasuke used the jutsu, but the Tomoe remained the same

 

[Conspirator.]

Oh yeah I forgot, last chapter he was drawn with a regular Rinnegan.

But the teleportation technique wasn't the problem in Minato's and Tobirama's case, it was both instant, so the same speed.
The problem was the fact that their attacks aren't instant, and not being instant is good enough for Madara to react.

If Minato and Tobirama were much faster, they could've landed a hit or 2, and not of gotten demolished.



Preta Path is an endless swamp of chakra, there is a databook scan about it I think?
I don't know where people get that from, but if someone reads this and knows how to get it, please post it for me.

Absorbing infinite chakra shouldn't be a problem, as long as it doesn't have nature energy.
It would just take longer, that is all.

Edit: Googled it and I found it

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That's exactly the problem, it would take a ton of time and I guess you would have to stay still. Which would make it easy for kaguya to attack. Also, using the no limits fallcy with regards to the preta path is stupid.

 

[Tera Path]

My point was the were still a few feet away. That's one of the problems with FTG it will put u a couple feet or so away from your target, but never point blank with 0 distance between u. In that time frame of the FTG user closing the remaining distance if the target has far superior reflexes like Madara did then the target can counter, but Sasuke's technique leaves no distance

Doesn't that depend where the mark is?

Tobirama and Minato didn't teleport to a mark that was on Madara if I'm not mistaken.

And the first time Sasuke used that teleportation and Madara got stabbed, it could've been that Sasuke just teleported the sword in the air, and Madara flew into it.
There's not really a proper way to find out unless they properly show so in the anime, or if Sasuke's technique gets an explanation.

But didn't Minato teleport directly on MS Obito in their fight? I'm fairly certain that he instantly had his hand on him, but I can't remember.

And why is teleport/teleportation not considered a word? Am I typing it wrong or something? It has a red line beneath it every time.

Edit: Teleporting directly in Madara would've been stupid for Tobirama, I just realized.
If Tobirama were to directly teleport on to him, he would have no space to get momentum for him to punch or stab Madara. Minato could've done it though with a rasengan.

 

[Chīkara]

Naruto wanking.

 

[AntonChigurh]

Naruto wanking.

Get used to it

 

[ANiMUS]

Doesn't that depend where the mark is?

Tobirama and Minato didn't teleport to a mark that was on Madara if I'm not mistaken.

And the first time Sasuke used that teleportation and Madara got stabbed, it could've been that Sasuke just teleported the sword in the air, and Madara flew into it.
There's not really a proper way to find out unless they properly show so in the anime, or if Sasuke's technique gets an explanation.

But didn't Minato teleport directly on MS Obito in their fight? I'm fairly certain that he instantly had his hand on him, but I can't remember.

And why is teleport/teleportation not considered a word? Am I typing it wrong or something? It has a red line beneath it every time.

No, Minato teleported above Obito and proceeded to strike during their first fight. It may have to deal with the position of the mark, but in both instances where FTG users were countered they have a couple feet of space between them and their victim.



I know teleportation is used in so many comic books, how can it not be a word. My phone does the same thing.

 

[Tera Path]

No, Minato teleported above Obito and proceeded to strike during their first fight. It may have to deal with the position of the mark, but in both instances where FTG users were countered they have a couple feet of space between them and their victim.

I know teleportation is used in so many comic books, how can it not be a word. My phone does the same thing.

Not that one.

I meant after he did the rasengan, he placed a mark on his back.
I mean when he teleported to place the seal to sever the bond between Obito and the Kyuubi.

 

[ANiMUS]

Not that one.

I meant after he did the rasengan, he placed a mark on his back.
I mean when he teleported to place the seal to sever the bond between Obito and the Kyuubi.

I don't remember that one can u post the link?

The teleportation to point blank range thing I was speaking of was when Sasuke and Naruto attacked Madara together from both sides. Sasuke warped them there

 

[Tera Path]

I don't remember that one can u post the link?

The teleportation to point blank range thing I was speaking of was when Sasuke and Naruto attacked Madara together from both sides. Sasuke warped them there

I don't think a manga panel would do, you would have to watch it in the anime.
And I did not notice that Naruto and Sasuke got teleported to Madara at all >.>

 

[ANiMUS]

I don't think a manga panel would do, you would have to watch it in the anime.
And I did not notice that Naruto and Sasuke got teleported to Madara at all >.>

XD really how did u think they got there?

Also, I looked and it appears that if u are tagged then they should be able to get to point blank range using FTG, but that still doesn't change the fact that on both times in which an FTG user was countered they were some distance away from their opponent.

Anyway, Sasuke's S/T jutsu>Naruto's sensory ability

 

[King Of Pop]

It's okay I won't dislike you unless you start using stuff other than mangafacts or you start insulting, so give me your best shot.

Okay so it was 1 panel, still took Naruto less to make a staff.
And I have to admit that was a good speed feat. from Sasuke, but it's not something new.
BSM Naruto and Sasuke with a Kyuubi cloak in Susano'o were both barely able to keep up with Juubito, so Sasuke keeping up with Madara isn't too much of a surprise.

Besides, it's just like the case with BZ, Madara didn't think BZ would've been a threat to him, so he didn't bother to, even though Madara could sense Minato coming from far away with a FTG, he still sensed him and could react.
Whereas with BZ he didn't even think that he would attack him, same thing when Obito stabbed him to take some chakra.

Madara didn't think of Sasuke as much of a threat, and not too much of a surprise, it didn't affect Madara.
Sure he lost a pair of legs, but that did not stop him from getting his other Rinnegan, and by the time he was back he magically got his legs back.

If Madara wanted to, he could've gotten Sasuke IMO.



Sorry I won't give scans but I believe with Jiton RS he means the first RS variant Naruto used against Madara, the one where the utilizes Son Goku's chakra.

lol wut? sasuke put a sword in his chest, landed a chidori on him as well as narutos attack which also landed because of sasukes technique and you are saying madara didnt think of him as a threat?? thats why he ran for his other eye because he noticed they were not ordinary kids. madara didnt react because he couldnt, nothing indicates he could. he was helplessly blized, his desperate face in the next panel indicates that.

 

[frozen5]

When he got stabbed and cut in half.

check my SIGN!. when sasuke sliced madara. he was perfectly able to sense minato. but sasuke had it flying

i dont understand what you are saying..... madara sensed him perfectly fine but could not or just did not bother to react

 

[King Of Pop]

i dont understand what you are saying..... madara sensed him perfectly fine but could not or just did not bother to react

fanfic. could not is the accurate one