[Discussion] Kaguya should not be the final Villian

[Punk Hazard]

Kaguya is still more powerful than madara so it would be suitable if she is the final villain

Power isn't what determines a good final villain. Personality, actions, and investment with the readers do.

It started with Orochimaru, it will end with Orochimaru.

It actually started with Mizuki.

 

[Joey The Fool]

Power isn't what determines a good final villain. Personality, actions, and investment with the readers do.


It actually started with Mizuki.

Mizuki may have been the first Villain but he wasn't the first Major Villain, the first Major Villains were Haku and Zabuza therefore it actually started with Haku and Zabuza.

 

[Kingstunbrolin]

I liked Kaguya being the final Villan and it was a great way to kill of madara.He didn't had to face any asspull dialogues,naruto's tnj,Epic mistakes.....and moreover it is pretty rare for a women to be the final boss so i would say kaguya does pretty much deserves to be the final villan and i think kaguya is probaply the one who saved madara after his battle with Hashi(Hashi said that he was sure madara died).

 

[Itachi2020]

No one can be sure about the final villian till the end, it has already been changed many times.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Mizuki may have been the first Villain but he wasn't the first Major Villain, the first Major Villains were Haku and Zabuza therefore it actually started with Haku and Zabuza.

He was a major villain.

1. Revealed to Naruto his dark truth
2. Pushed Naruto to develop(perfecting Shadow Clone Jutsu) which allowed him to graduate the academy and became a pivotal part of his arsenal
3. Pushed Naruto and Iruka's relationship, which Naruto has confessed is what kept him from falling into Gaara's path

If it weren't for Mizuki, Naruto would have been living a completely different life, Mizuki has impaced Naruto's life in ways in the same boat as Obito. Mizuki for final villain.

 

[Joey The Fool]

He was a major villain.

1. Revealed to Naruto his dark truth
2. Pushed Naruto to develop(perfecting Shadow Clone Jutsu) which allowed him to graduate the academy and became a pivotal part of his arsenal
3. Pushed Naruto and Iruka's relationship, which Naruto has confessed is what kept him from falling into Gaara's path

If it weren't for Mizuki, Naruto would have been living a completely different life, Mizuki has impaced Naruto's life in ways in the same boat as Obito. Mizuki for final villain.

you're wrong just because Mizuki's actions had an impact on Naruto's life that doesn't mean that he was a Major Villain he was nothing more then a Minor Villain, a Major Villain is Villain that is very involved in the Story and is sometimes fought by the Heroes at the end of a Story Arc also Mizuki was fought at the beginning of the first Naruto Story Arc and he was only involved in the Story for 1 Chapter therefore he is in Fact a Minor Villain, these are Facts and remember that you can't argue with Facts or Logic for that matter.

 

[Punk Hazard]

you're wrong just because Mizuki's actions had an impact on Naruto's life that doesn't me that he was a Major Villain he was nothing more then a Minor Villain, a Major Villain is Villain that is very involved in the Story and is sometimes fought by the Heroes at the end of a Story Arc also Mizuki was fought at the beginning of the first Naruto Story Arc and he was only involved in the Story for 1 Chapter therefore he is in Fact a Minor Villain, these are Facts and remember that you can't argue with Facts or Logic for that matter.

He is involved with the story, since his actions, like Tobi, influenced the main character and set up a path that shaped him, which in turn had a part in shaping the story. This statement is concluded from both logic and facts, so you can't argue with me.

 

[Yuri Uzuma]

I'm glad Kishi gave a female character so much power and spotlight. Though Madara has been owned so epically, but still I believe we will see him playing major role again.

 

[asad70ful]

btw i would really prefer madara over kaguya....and orochimaru over madz.....

 

[Joey The Fool]

He is involved with the story, since his actions, like Tobi, influenced the main character and set up a path that shaped him, which in turn had a part in shaping the story. This statement is concluded from both logic and facts, so you can't argue with me.

like i said he was only involved in the Story for 1 Chapter and his role was very Minor other then telling Naruto about Tobirama's scroll and telling him that the Nine Tails was sealed inside of him he has No Relevance to the Story whatsoever, unlike Mizuki Obito was heavily involved in the Story he appeared in more then 100 Chapters and he was the Main Villain at one point and unlike Mizuki Obito played a Major role and did so many things that made him Very Relevant to the Story, these Facts and Logic prove that Obito is a Major Villain and that Mizuki is nothing more then a Minor Villain and it also proves that you have no idea what a Major Villain and a Minor Villain truly are and you should remember These are Facts backed up by Logic and you can't argue with Facts or Logic, also i can argue with you because your statements have no Logic or Facts behind them all they do have is nothing but Misconceptions and Delusions.

 

[darthvader5666]

Well, in a way, Kaguya's been around since the end of part 1 through Black Zetsu...

 

[vasu 32]

Here is a correction~

*We don't know Madara from the part 1 of Naruto. It was Obito who was responsible for the beginning of Naruto. Madara came into picture from chapter 571. *

And seriously if you believed TOBI to be MADARA, then boy you're a "genius".

 

[Tolunay]

Here is a correction~

*We don't know Madara from the part 1 of Naruto. It was Obito who was responsible for the beginning of Naruto. Madara came into picture from chapter 571. *

And seriously if you believed TOBI to be MADARA, then boy you're a "genius".

i dont thought that shit
almost everybody knew that tobi was obito
it was an bad revelation just saiyin

at the end we first heard that madara uchiha attacked the village and not Obito

 

[NinJaGirl99]

It started with Orochimaru, it will end with Orochimaru.

The manga started with Orochimaru, but the history of the ninja world from the beginning started with Kaguya.

 

[LegendaryShinobi]

Thats what i believe too.