[Theory] Hamura is sealed in the shinigami mask.The brothers plan.

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I would like to point out first that Kaguya has huges differences with the shinigami.

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-The nose , you can't deny this.
-the horns , they are clearly different.
-no 3rd eye for the shinigami.

That's enough to say that the shinigami isn't Kaguya.


Imagine that guy with red hair!

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Here are some manga facts:

-The shinigami mask is kept by the Uzumaki clan , who most probably comes from Hamura.
-We saw that Hagoromo's brother had horns when they fought Juubi.
-Hagoromo has a huge nose , like the shinigami , that huge nose can be a gene the shinigami and Hagoromo share(has their father a huge nose?Or Kaguya loves huge noses , that's why she created her sons with one huge nose.)
-Kin/Gin horns are exactly the same horns as the shinigami , Kin/Gin seems to be related to the sage , and are clearly not from Hagoromo's descendance.
-The shinigami has 2 points above the eyes , like Kaguya , like Kimmimaro who seems to be related to Kaguya
-The teeth of the shinigami look like Kisame's and the 1st Mizukage's.
-can you find other manga facts relating to the shinigami?


Who is it?Hamura?

That simple hypothesis would explain all those facts and clarify how the ninja were dispached around the world.
That works so great that it can hardly be a coincidence.



The brothers plan:


-What if Hagoromo sealed Hamura in the mask , seal made to be broken by the light of the Mugen Tsukuyomi.
-The brothers plan was to "revive" Hamura when IT is on , to end their mother's plan.
-Her plan is to make Earth her nursery for ever , a chakra producer that she wants to protect at all costs (see how she teleports evry weapon that could damage Earth , team 7 , in a place that could be the red moon in fusion , the goal is to protect her farm aka Earth) , a harvest every 1000 years , making her immortal.
-The preview is clear now with that theory:"In the world Mūgen Tsukuyomi shines upon, that man will finally!?...."

What have they planned to do after Hamura is revived?

-Use the tools to seal her , knowing that she talks too much ( :hint: look how talkative she is in the last chapter , she gives informations even if nobody ask for , white zetsus are talkative).
-That would explain why the tools were made to trap silly talkers , and kept by Kin and Gin who most probably are Hamura's descendance.
-That would also explain Hagoromo's attitude with Naruto (not a sage attitude!) , why Hagoromo hid things to Naruto , he doesn't want to reveal their plan and he knows that Naruto probably won't understand anything *_* .
 
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Nice theory
Thanks.

uuufoboy said:
What if Orochimaru is Hamura's reincarnation ?
I didn't really like the reincarnation things.
I hope that only Indra's and Ashura's chakra didn't vanish at their death.


Do you remember the guy next to the 1st Mizukage (teeth and huge nose like the shinigami)?

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Imagine this guy is related to the Mizukage and to Orochimaru.
That would make Orochimaru related to Hamura , so he technically could be his reincarnation!
 
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I would like to point out first that Kaguya has huges differences with the shinigami.

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-The nose , you can't deny this.
-the horns , they are clearly different.
-no 3rd eye for the shinigami.

That's enough to say that the shinigami isn't Kaguya.

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Here are some manga facts:

-The shinigami mask is kept by the Uzumaki clan , who most probably comes from Hamura.
-We saw that Hagoromo's brother had horns when they fought Juubi.
-Hagoromo has a huge nose , like the shinigami , that huge nose can be a gene the shinigami and Hagoromo share(has their father a huge nose?Or Kaguya loves huge noses , that's why she created her sons with one huge nose.)
-Kin/Gin horns are exactly the same horns as the shinigami , Kin/Gin seems to be related to the sage , and are clearly not from Hagoromo's descendance.
-The shinigami has 2 points above the eyes , like Kaguya , like Kimmimaro who seems to be related to Kaguya
-The teeth of the shinigami look like Kisame's and the 1st Mizukage's.

Who is it?
What if it was Hamura?
That simple hypothesis would explain all those facts and clarify how the ninja were dispached around the world.
That works so great that it can hardly be a coincidence.

What if Hagoromo sealed Hamura in the mask , seal made to be broken by the light of the Mugen Tsukuyomi.
The brothers plan was to "revive" Hamura when IT is on , to end their mother's plans.


What have they planned to do after Hamura is revived?
Use the tools to seal her knowing that she talks too much(look how talkative she is in the last chapter).
That would explain why the tools were made to trap silly talkers , and kept by Kin and Gin who most probably are Hamura's descendance.
finally someone who actually realises the Fact that the Reaper from the Reaper Death Seal and Kaguya are two Completely Different Characters, also you theory is awesome it could be very possible.
 

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finally someone who actually realises the Fact that the Reaper from the Reaper Death Seal and Kaguya are two Completely Different Characters, also you theory is awesome it could be very possible.
Thanks man.

I made a thread one month ago saying that Hago's bro is the RDS.
I had some doubts , this chapter clarified some.

I thought that there were 2 mystery characters , the RDS and the guy at the center of the fire temple:

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Now there is only one mystery character.
 

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Thanks man.

I made a thread one month ago saying that Hago's bro is the RDS.
I had some doubts , this chapter clarified some.

I thought that there were 2 mystery characters , the RDS and the guy at the center of the fire temple:

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Now there is only one mystery character.
i'll read that tread later and then i'll tell yoi what i thought about it, also that statue looks a lot like Sasuke's Susanoo.
 

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i'll read that tread later and then i'll tell yoi what i thought about it, also that statue looks a lot like Sasuke's Susanoo.
If you are interested by this statue , I advice you to also take a look at that thread: .
Don't take the original post too seriously , the discussion in this thread brought some interesting points.



If the theory of "Hamura=RDS" seduces you ,and if you like analysing statues , I also would like you to read (1st post is enough) that include this theory and talks about Yin/Yang origins.
 
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And here we go again, throwing the uzumaki back to descendants from Kaguya and such.

They're more likely just branched off the senju, like, half senju blood or something along the lines.
Seriously, the uzumaki aren't that big of a deal.
Just a clan that specialises in sealing jutsu.
 

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And here we go again, throwing the uzumaki back to descendants from Kaguya and such.

They're more likely just branched off the senju, like, half senju blood or something along the lines.
Seriously, the uzumaki aren't that big of a deal.
Just a clan that specialises in sealing jutsu.
:what: that wasn't the real point of the thread.
And I said :"most probably comes from" , so it seems you are in denial.


What you say implies that Hashirama made children to her close relative Mito.
You are probably wrong , you may have to reread threads over the Uzumaki origin , and this thread isn't that type of thread , I won't try anything more to make you see the light over that subject.

The fact that I used the word "probably" means that I will be right in both cases.
 
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