Gorik FIGULLE
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my apologies in advance i didn't intend for this to be so long
many a times we all see the story progress and develop in ways we hoe and predict and some times not so much...my question is what would it take to convince NB users to accept what goes on in the manga and not try to argue with non existent feats and hypes...
e.g 1) when pain was introduced as the badass that he was people didn't want to believe he would get tnj'd especially when it didn't happen against jiraiya
2) when obito was fighting against naruto and sasuke people didn't wanna believe that he was gonna get tnj'd reason being he worked for mougen tsukiyomi his whole life and bam it happened
3) people always hyped minato as the strongest and very wise because of the manga hype during an off panel war with fodders now when ninja world war 4 broke we got to see him against real foes on panel and he was underwhelming he felt and looked like naruto's copy except for his wisdom and ftg and people cried plot restriction(seriously how wise is a person who supposedly knows a lot of bunch of sealing jutsu and the first he comes up with involves suicide against a demon fox that played pet and was tamed by chakra chains from a half dead woman?)
4) madara repeatedly held no secrets about what he intends to do with the mougen tsukiyomi and people still said nah he wants to rule the dream world, madara then said he wants to even people's chakras in IT, people said nah that's just cause he wants all the chakra to himself...what people forget is that madara is not all knowing, he got this info from a stone that was written and re-written on many times (fact because he only mentioned hagomoro and his mother not his brother) well hagomoro told the risks of the IT(the chakra drainage) which madara might have not known because of
a) his intel about IT is limited to the uchiha stone tablet and
b) he thought black zetsu was his will clearly he was deceived
now we got a glimpse of madara's IT in action and everybody was happy even madara said so himself and he was ready to defend their dreams until the back stab (this is one big example of how most people go against the manga and give their own reasons as to why something happened or how someone behaves when clearly the manga gave a reason and this people come and cry plot no jutsu or kishi is a bad writter when those reasons are solidified)
5) naruto as ashura's transmigrate rustled jimmies so hard people wanted him to be hagomoro's incarnate(differs from transmigrate) because apparently it was foreshadowed so much in the manga and yet what people fail to comprehend is that so is naruto very similar to obito than hagomoro (naruto was said to be similar to hagomoro through his resolves and the peace he wanted for everyone not just himself and a select few around him) but hagomoro too was a fighter a powerful one at that, born with blessed/cursed eyes (whatever floats your boat) powerful chakra (a description that fits sasuke above naruto) before you give me uzumaki crap know that it is manga fact that uzumakis are known for their seals and longetivity and senjus for their powerful physical energyand healing while uchihas are born with powerful chakras and spiritual energy... naruto hosts a demon chakra fox in him and sasuke is holding no candle to naruto at the moment when it comes to chakra reserves
what i'm trying to say here is that someone could have easily compared sasuke to hagomoro in that respect but sasuke had a limeted time interacting with tail beasts and the only two he had he was their foe and there was no time to reminisce when you are fighting a sharinganer and sasuke never found the snake cave (mind you he knew nothing about sage mode) even naruto knew nothing about sage mode an was taken by jiraiya to the toad mountain and the frogs said nothing about their techniques until they wanted naruto to learn sage arts
so naruto being ashura's transmigrate is valid
CONCLUSION:
if we followed the story and based our arguments on the provided info from the manga instead of using unknown and unconfirmed feats as if kishi is telling us a story we already know or somehow with our psyches we know what characters are thinking we would have less butt hurt people on NB threatening to leave the manga evry week or so and expect us to care as if the price of bread would go up if they would and enjoyable debates.
many a times we all see the story progress and develop in ways we hoe and predict and some times not so much...my question is what would it take to convince NB users to accept what goes on in the manga and not try to argue with non existent feats and hypes...
e.g 1) when pain was introduced as the badass that he was people didn't want to believe he would get tnj'd especially when it didn't happen against jiraiya
2) when obito was fighting against naruto and sasuke people didn't wanna believe that he was gonna get tnj'd reason being he worked for mougen tsukiyomi his whole life and bam it happened
3) people always hyped minato as the strongest and very wise because of the manga hype during an off panel war with fodders now when ninja world war 4 broke we got to see him against real foes on panel and he was underwhelming he felt and looked like naruto's copy except for his wisdom and ftg and people cried plot restriction(seriously how wise is a person who supposedly knows a lot of bunch of sealing jutsu and the first he comes up with involves suicide against a demon fox that played pet and was tamed by chakra chains from a half dead woman?)
4) madara repeatedly held no secrets about what he intends to do with the mougen tsukiyomi and people still said nah he wants to rule the dream world, madara then said he wants to even people's chakras in IT, people said nah that's just cause he wants all the chakra to himself...what people forget is that madara is not all knowing, he got this info from a stone that was written and re-written on many times (fact because he only mentioned hagomoro and his mother not his brother) well hagomoro told the risks of the IT(the chakra drainage) which madara might have not known because of
a) his intel about IT is limited to the uchiha stone tablet and
b) he thought black zetsu was his will clearly he was deceived
now we got a glimpse of madara's IT in action and everybody was happy even madara said so himself and he was ready to defend their dreams until the back stab (this is one big example of how most people go against the manga and give their own reasons as to why something happened or how someone behaves when clearly the manga gave a reason and this people come and cry plot no jutsu or kishi is a bad writter when those reasons are solidified)
5) naruto as ashura's transmigrate rustled jimmies so hard people wanted him to be hagomoro's incarnate(differs from transmigrate) because apparently it was foreshadowed so much in the manga and yet what people fail to comprehend is that so is naruto very similar to obito than hagomoro (naruto was said to be similar to hagomoro through his resolves and the peace he wanted for everyone not just himself and a select few around him) but hagomoro too was a fighter a powerful one at that, born with blessed/cursed eyes (whatever floats your boat) powerful chakra (a description that fits sasuke above naruto) before you give me uzumaki crap know that it is manga fact that uzumakis are known for their seals and longetivity and senjus for their powerful physical energyand healing while uchihas are born with powerful chakras and spiritual energy... naruto hosts a demon chakra fox in him and sasuke is holding no candle to naruto at the moment when it comes to chakra reserves
what i'm trying to say here is that someone could have easily compared sasuke to hagomoro in that respect but sasuke had a limeted time interacting with tail beasts and the only two he had he was their foe and there was no time to reminisce when you are fighting a sharinganer and sasuke never found the snake cave (mind you he knew nothing about sage mode) even naruto knew nothing about sage mode an was taken by jiraiya to the toad mountain and the frogs said nothing about their techniques until they wanted naruto to learn sage arts
so naruto being ashura's transmigrate is valid
CONCLUSION:
if we followed the story and based our arguments on the provided info from the manga instead of using unknown and unconfirmed feats as if kishi is telling us a story we already know or somehow with our psyches we know what characters are thinking we would have less butt hurt people on NB threatening to leave the manga evry week or so and expect us to care as if the price of bread would go up if they would and enjoyable debates.
but then again you have fanboys/girls and the dickriders