Establishment on Sakura and her Character [Clear-up thread]

[TheTailedSage]

Teamwork - Her recklessness is what makes her realistic. Sakura is a smart level-headed shinobi but as Kishi has stated she represents human weakness which is her letting her morals and feelings take over. Sakura is a girl who despises seeing others being killed even if they have to die. That's why she couldn't bring herself to kill Sasuke. That's why she couldn't bring herself to kill Obito by taking out his eye. That's why she became a medic. That's why she's realistic. Imagine if YOU were in a world where you had to kill others for a living. I bet you would be the same way.

Sakura's character development - Sakura wasn't trying to save Sasuke because she's in love with him. Like Naruto she wants to save him because of their bond. Kakashi even said that her feelings for Sasuke aren't the same as in part 1. Sakura doesn't like this new Sasuke she likes the Old Part 1 Sasuke who was willing to die to save his comrades.

So your saying that because she is reckless, is why shes realistic? there are two ways to interpret that and one is your interpretation and the other is acting on impulse disregarding the consequences on what those actions may have. by taking someones eye out your not killing them though... No one told her to try to kill Sasuke though thats my point her orders were to carry karin back, SHE decided to jump in. She became a shinobi knowing full well what it entailed, if it were me i would know those consiquennces and make my decisions based on the variables

I have nothing against Sakura and am completely content with her.

But..
I completely agree that Sasori fight really amped up her arrogance.

Definately, bad she gained from it has out weighted the positives of that battle

So you where serious about that realisation thread.

On personal note, I would focus on emphasizing her poor character developement more than decisions she has made... but I cant disagree with a single word you said.

And I just want to say, if someone was to do the same to my favourite character, I would respect their opinion just because they put so much work into it.

Damn right i was

But its the decisions she makes that affect her character, they do tie in. Im tired of all the sakura fans coming with the "you just hate on her" excuse, its annoying

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Teamwork - Her recklessness is what makes her realistic. Sakura is a smart level-headed shinobi but as Kishi has stated she represents human weakness which is her letting her morals and feelings take over. Sakura is a girl who despises seeing others being killed even if they have to die. That's why she couldn't bring herself to kill Sasuke. That's why she couldn't bring herself to kill Obito by taking out his eye. That's why she became a medic. That's why she's realistic. Imagine if YOU were in a world where you had to kill others for a living. I bet you would be the same way.

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Being reckless shows that Sakura is a stupid ninja who uses brawn over brain

 

[Keimil]

There is asome stuff that is wrong like how Chiyo cotrolled her all the time, and you interpreted some stuff the way you wanted to...

Sorry, but you didn't even try...

 

[Joshutsu]

But it's a author fact she is main character as well.... So what? Lol we tried to hard to bring tainted interpretation did we?

 

[Conspirator.]

Agreed, for a MC her character development isn't so good.

 

[EPICMenma]

That's what i call a "perfect" thread. Sakura fans need to learn about this anyways..

 

[TheTailedSage]

But it's a author fact she is main character as well.... So what? Lol we tried to hard to bring tainted interpretation did we?

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There is asome stuff that is wrong like how Chiyo cotrolled her all the time, and you interpreted some stuff the way you wanted to...

Sorry, but you didn't even try...

I never said Chiyo controlled her through the whole fight, your reading what you want to read. okay then because both interpretations are my own. Seems legit.

 

[TheTailedSage]

That's what i call a "perfect" thread. Sakura fans need to learn about this anyways..

Even now they are complaining about both my interpretations...

Agreed, for a MC her character development isn't so good.

That sig xD

 

[Joshutsu]

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Response with a picture. I can't be mad when i simply shared what I know :x noone can take her MC status ever leave the character analysis to the pros

 

[Conspirator.]

This is my full opinion on the matter which I posted on the other thread.

There are numerous reasons why Sakura isn't well written. First off, her infatuation with Sasuke is simply ridiculous. Sure, I can understand it occurring at the beginning of the series(she was only 12-and a lot of us are stupid at age 12) but it continued on in Shippuden. In other words, she didn't mature. The danzo arc was killer for Sakura's character. She thought she could take out Sasuke alone, and used her comrades as nothing more than tools(and then failed). It's painfully obvious that her thinking about Sasuke messed up her thought process. Her fake confession to Naruto was also incredibly stupid, especially given how Naruto saw through the charade and told her off. You don't play with someones feelings lke that. Then there's the current arc, where she was thinking about "sasuke-kun not caring" in the middle of the worst war in history. In other words, she has barely matured at all with regards to Sasuke, and it's made worse given how sasuke doesn't give a flying fuk about her!

The second problem with her character is that she has ZERO direct ties to any of the main villains.(unless you count sasuke, but he's an anti hero) This is a big problem, as the people who play a role in the villains defeat all usually have connections to them, which leads to interesting dialogue. Naruto was connected to obito since they both wanted to be hokage but chose different paths, Sasuke is connected to this since he's an Uchiha, and Kakashi is friends with Obito. Sakura isn't connected to them in the slightest.

There's also the added problem:What do we really know about her OUTSIDE team 7? What are her views on the shinobi world? What does she think about the will of fire, or the curse of hatred? What are her goals?(outside of team 7) And finally, she doesn't have much fighting feats, and this is a shonen manga which focuses on fighting. Being a medic means that all the work is done on the sidelines, which is great for a SIDE character, but the main characters are meant to be in the spotlight, and medics don't take centre stage in the action. That's the bottom line, and why Sakura's character isn't the best.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Response with a picture. I can't be mad when i simply shared what I know :x noone can take her MC status ever leave the character analysis to the pros

Yeah i know that. And thats just the way it is, im just simply pointing out how contradictory it is for her to be a main character when she has no real motive and she hasn't really affected the plot.

 

[TheTailedSage]

This is my full opinion on the matter which I posted on the other thread.

Pretty much most of what i said, exactly

 

[Joshutsu]

Yeah i know that. And thats just the way it is, im just simply pointing out how contradictory it is for her to be a main character when she has no real motive and she hasn't really affected the plot.

Well she is still there and she has contributed things that were important in the story for others and her own progression.

I don't find anything contradicting at all, I think the ones who set the MC bar are people who read as i see nowhere that says a main character must do certain things.

A main character is a more important character in a story kishi designated her and he plot out what she is to do in the story as a main character and he did the same for Naruto and Sasuke. She is performing her role as the author sets it in this story. Thus she is a good main character. If you hate her as a MC go ahead but that does not change the reality.

 

[TRE MERCER]

How long did it take you to write this noval about Sakura? Let me sum it up for those who didn't read it. Sakura is useless.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

You might be right.
But those things you say are what make Sakura a unique character.
Man,I love those flaws.

 

[RedRobin]

There are numerous reasons why Sakura isn't well written. First off, her infatuation with Sasuke is simply ridiculous. Sure, I can understand it occurring at the beginning of the series(she was only 12-and a lot of us are stupid at age 12) but it continued on in Shippuden. In other words, she didn't mature. The danzo arc was killer for Sakura's character. She thought she could take out Sasuke alone, and used her comrades as nothing more than tools(and then failed). It's painfully obvious that her thinking about Sasuke messed up her thought process. Her fake confession to Naruto was also incredibly stupid, especially given how Naruto saw through the charade and told her off. You don't play with someones feelings lke that. Then there's the current arc, where she was thinking about "sasuke-kun not caring" in the middle of the worst war in history. In other words, she has barely matured at all with regards to Sasuke, and it's made worse given how sasuke doesn't give a flying fuk about her!

Funny thing is she isnt in love with him anymore, but you continue to see different. So whatever. She feels the same for Sasuke as Naruto, just wants him back. You give shit to Naruto for it? No you dont, only Sakura.

That whole confession was ALL for Naruto. Everything she did there was for Naruto, she took matters into her own hands and tried to unburden Naruto. Yet she is a ***** in everyone's book, that is ridiculous and exact reason why I like Sakura. She gets all this shit when she was only trying to help. Sure she couldnt do it, but she tried, she had to whole plan set up ALL for Naruto. She was going to kill the person she loved all for Naruto's sake. I dont see why you could hate her for that.

Really used her comrades, so its shitty to not want them to get involved in something very dangerous. Sasuke would have killed one had any gone with her. But no she is a ***** for not letting them get hurt.

Do you give Gaara shit for telling Naruto he wants to get a drink with him? No why because it was 2 second thought. Kishi is basically closing things up, throwing in little hints here and there. After that 2 second thought, she was right back to paying attention.

This is why its funny. People give Sakura shit for the little things.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Well she is still there and she has contributed things that were important in the story for others and her own progression.

I don't find anything contradicting at all, I think the ones who set the MC bar are people who read as i see nowhere that says a main character must do certain things.

A main character is a more important character in a story kishi designated her and he plot out what she is to do in the story as a main character and he did the same for Naruto and Sasuke. She is performing her role as the author sets it in this story. Thus she is a good main character. If you hate her as a MC go ahead but that does not change the reality.

Care to name some which have affected the story? A main character in ANY anime, manga, novel, drama ect. has a motive and ALWAYS has a certain effect on the plot. From the most useless characters in anime have had a dramatic effect on the series ect. one piece. Nami went form little use to key importance or Lucy from fairy tail. No matter what what you want to twist this into Sakuras favor it isn't my opinion but the history of novels and manga, the main characters have always had a sufficient impact on the story. Her role as a medic has only recently been of use, and even now she has no place on the battle field. Kishi even knows hes not a good female writer. IF you read the thread properly you would of seen the holes.

Your a very persistent person, you have actually been the structure to sakura fans of late, i realize this; not firing shots, just saying

I don't see what your trying to defend when all fact negate your statements.

 

[TheTailedSage]

You might be right.
But those things you say are what make Sakura a unique character.
Man,I love those flaws.

Hmmm i guess that's fair enough, no ones put it that way before

 

[Captain Falcon]

Agreed and you know the Sakura fans are going to be pissed.

 

[TheTailedSage]

How long did it take you to write this noval about Sakura? Let me sum it up for those who didn't read it. Sakura is useless.

LOOOL it took like 30 min