I'd like to see once and for all who is stronger, I always see mixed views for this match up.
Location: Bee vs Kisame
Starting Distance: 25m
Restrictions: None
Conditions: Raikage has the same Black Lightning feats as Darui
Intel: None really. Kisame knows he's a Raikage and Raikage knows his opponent is a dangerous Akatsuki
Considering Raikages speed, making hand signs for the water dome pretty much leaves himself completely open for a blitz.
I have no idea what the hell 'daikodan' is supposed to be (wish people would use the language they speak sometimes) but of you're referring to super shark bomb, then how on earth is that going to hit when it can be easily out run with Raikages speed. Not to mention Kisame performed that jutsu in an ocean.
lol, Raikage hasn't shown the speed to blitz Kisame. People like Dodai have easily reacted to him and been able to make adequate defenses. Kisame makes the handsigns for the dome and then the water pushes the Raikage back and it just goes downhill from there.
I have no idea what the hell 'daikodan' is supposed to be (wish people would use the language they speak sometimes) but of you're referring to super shark bomb, then how on earth is that going to hit when it can be easily out run with Raikages speed. Not to mention Kisame performed that jutsu in an ocean.
The manga puts the Japanese name most of the time, so that's what I've memorized.
Water Dome fallowed up by Daikodan equals GG. Raikage's speed is useless while he's floating in the middle of a giant dome filled with water. So he gets hit, it drains his chakra and he dies.
lol, Raikage hasn't shown the speed to blitz Kisame. People like Dodai have easily reacted to him and been able to make adequate defenses. Kisame makes the handsigns for the dome and then the water pushes the Raikage back and it just goes downhill from there.
The manga puts the Japanese name most of the time, so that's what I've memorized.
Water Dome fallowed up by Daikodan equals GG. Raikage's speed is useless while he's floating in the middle of a giant dome filled with water. So he gets hit, it drains his chakra and he dies.
Where did Dodai react to him? I remember Raikage blitzing 19 people all at once with his speed, Naruto even said he took out a dozen guys in an 'instant'. Naruto also complimented his speed in comparison to Ay and there are other quotes of his speed being complimented, of course he has the speed to blitz Kisame. If Bee in V1 had the speed to lariat him (along with Ay) before he could make a hand sign, then why wouldn't the third Raikage, unless you think he's slower than Bee.
Putting Raikage in a dome is suicidal, he'll just electrocute the whole thing, either by using his lightning cloak to shock the whole thing or using black lightning.
Lml, Kisame low-mid diff. People fail to understand Kisame's techniques all require either a single hand seal or a clap, nothing more. Do people actually believe he's getting blitzed before he can create one hand seal, even though he has to charge his Raiton shroud and then blitz (not even comparable to Ay)? Do people actually believe Sandaime will be capable of cutting Kisame in CQC before Samehada absorbs his raiton shroud? Do people actually believe electrocuting the dome will end Kisame, considering he can absorb chakra from any part of his body?
Lml, Kisame low-mid diff. People fail to understand Kisame's techniques all require either a single hand seal or a clap, nothing more. Do people actually believe he's getting blitzed before he can create one hand seal, even though he has to charge his Raiton shroud and then blitz (not even comparable to Ay)? Do people actually believe Sandaime will be capable of cutting Kisame in CQC before Samehada absorbs his raiton shroud? Do people actually believe electrocuting the dome will end Kisame, considering he can absorb chakra from any part of his body?
Lol, he got decapitated last time for trying to use a single hand sign against speed demons as seen in here:
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And that wasn't even Ay or Bee's fastest speed, it was only V1.
And it doesn't matter if Kisame absorbs the Raikages lightning cloak. If Raikage charges at him with the 1 finger he'll stab, it is still going to pierce all the way through. It is the strongest spear after all, the same way v2 Bee blew a whole in Kisame's chest. Bees chakra was absorbed but because the power of the attack was so great it didn't matter:
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It doesn't matter how much chakra Kisame manages to absorb, if Raikage is running at full speed with the 1 finger he'll stab, it will still piece right through kisame, or better yet just slice his head off. The strongest spear isn't being defended against just by relying on chakra absorption. Because the attack is so fast, there's only so much Kisame can absorb in that one moment, and it's definitely not enough to reduce the cutting power of the hell stab. Maybe if it was a 4 or 3 finger, but not the 1 finger.
Also Kisame isn't Nagato, he's still going to get hurt whether or not he absorbs lightning. A mass of water as big as the water means the whole surrounding will be surging electricity. And if it's black lightning then it's even worse, Kisame ain't tanking that, he can't absorb it all. I'd be surprised if the dome doesn't pop with that much electricity disrupting it.
Bee didn't try to stop the water done. Bee already blitzed Kisame a couple times before he finally pulled out the water done. He got stabbed bees sword, headbutted and took a lariat. Only reason Kisame survived is because Samehada took reduced the total impact from all bees attacks. Hell stab > Lariat > v1 headbutted> lightning sword. Samehada isn't stopping a 1 finger hell stab from penetrating completely through kisame or removing his head.
Water dome would get fired by black lightning anyway, too much electrocution for Kisame to handle.
-He is a horrible match-up for the raikage here (despite the raikage being stronger overall), since the samehada can asborb his RNY and would therefore allow Kisame to damage the raikage effectively,,,
-He has the durability to tank most of thirds nin/taijutsu,,
-Once he merges with samehada and uses water dome,,, Thirds chances of victory are quite minimal,,,, and the additive of GSB makes kisames victory certain,,,,
-He is a horrible match-up for the raikage here (despite the raikage being stronger overall), since the samehada can asborb his RNY and would therefore allow Kisame to damage the raikage effectively,,,
-He has the durability to tank most of thirds nin/taijutsu,,
-Once he merges with samehada and uses water dome,,, Thirds chances of victory are quite minimal,,,, and the additive of GSB makes kisames victory certain,,,,
But his fight is a non-plot. At 25 meter distance Hell Stab decapitates him neg difficulty. Sandaime Raikage is too fast and just like someone mentioned, when Kisame goes to form a handseal his head is removed.
3rd isn't blitzing from 25m. He doesn't have Ay's speed, nor Sasuke's speed, and Ay had much less distance and he was nearly finished (btw 30% Kisame). Depending on how his Hell Stab will hit, Kisame may even survive with Samehada. It's mid diff.
Lol, he got decapitated last time for trying to use a single hand sign against speed demons as seen in here:
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And that wasn't even Ay or Bee's fastest speed, it was only V1.
And it doesn't matter if Kisame absorbs the Raikages lightning cloak. If Raikage charges at him with the 1 finger he'll stab, it is still going to pierce all the way through. It is the strongest spear after all, the same way v2 Bee blew a whole in Kisame's chest. Bees chakra was absorbed but because the power of the attack was so great it didn't matter:
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It doesn't matter how much chakra Kisame manages to absorb, if Raikage is running at full speed with the 1 finger he'll stab, it will still piece right through kisame, or better yet just slice his head off. The strongest spear isn't being defended against just by relying on chakra absorption. Because the attack is so fast, there's only so much Kisame can absorb in that one moment, and it's definitely not enough to reduce the cutting power of the hell stab. Maybe if it was a 4 or 3 finger, but not the 1 finger.
Also Kisame isn't Nagato, he's still going to get hurt whether or not he absorbs lightning. A mass of water as big as the water means the whole surrounding will be surging electricity. And if it's black lightning then it's even worse, Kisame ain't tanking that, he can't absorb it all. I'd be surprised if the dome doesn't pop with that much electricity disrupting it.
Fighting 2 people, let alone that being Zetsu. Lml at your logic.
How can he charge via hell stab if his cloak isn't present? Absorbing the cloak absorbs the hell stab as well. And that comparison doesn't work, Bee was still shrouded, Sanaime will have to be strong enough to generate as much impact as Bee in v1, which is improbable.
Anyways, I don't have to argue this. Creates massive amounts of water and Sandaime is useless. Dome ends. Shrouds are absorbed, hell stab goes. There's nothing to argue here. He's not as fast as v2 bee, unless you have feats to prove it. He absorbs the 1 finger hell stab negative difficulty unless you can prove it contains at least 1 biju tail worth of chakra (which you can't).
He very much is in Kisamehada form. It's all absorbed, end of story. He has shown to absorb from any body part in contact with him, hence any raiton touching him is absorbed. He can absorb it all unless you show it's worth more than several tails worth of v2 chakra, which you cannot. Why would it pop, do you even physics? LML >_>
