[Theory] more reasons why tobi is uchiha madara (controlling obito)

[minamoto]

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this thread is a continuation of my tobidara theory wich reveolves around the mystery of tobi not being over and that the reall masked man is Madara controlling obito...and that spiral zetsu was also integrated within obito's body and it was him the goofy tobi...let me sum it up to you...tobi is madara +obito+ spiral zetsu....but the boss tobi is madara !!..

-Notice : i am not saying obito isn't tobi...he was revealed to be obito in chapter 599...but if obito was controlled by tobimadara,does thatmakes him the reall masked man tobi??...THE TRUE MASKED MAN IS THE ONE WHO IS CONTROLLING!!...AND NOT THE ONE WHO IS BEING CONTROLLED !!!...

-i saw the obito flashbacks..but many things were missing in it...like how some skilled ninja like kisame and itachi belived tobi to be madara...so im aware that obito infiltrated the leaf village during kurama attack and even said 'MINATO SENSEI'....but still that was part of kishimoto's plan to make us think that tobi is actually obito...and not allow us that the reall masked man was madara....so i hope you understand my theory :

-Madara did tell obito to pose as madara but why???....remember?...after a considerable time of obito's rehabilitation
Madara created the black zetsu...but befor that...when madara healed obito...and exactly when obito was still fainted from the boulder crush...Madara sealed his empty shell or his "2nd him" inside obito's body..without obito realizing this...also madara placed a curse seal of puppets on obito's heart

the purpose of the curse seal of puppet :

Madara placed a curse seal on obito's heart so as to turn obito's consiousness off, when the 2nd madara(tobidara) or spiral zetsu takes full controll of his body..sometimes the controll of the curse seal diminish (according to tobidara's will)...i mean sometimes tobidara who is sealed inside obito gives obito freedom of will and let obito act by his free will...and sometimes he gives spiral zetsu (who was also part of tobi)...freedom of will and let him act like goofy so that tobidara lead akatsuki from the shadow...and sometimes when situation demands..like forexemple a badass fight..or meeting with some1 skilled like itachi and kisame...then tobimadara must take full controll of obito's body and speak...for exemple in the fight tobi vs konan...MADARA FULLY CONTROLLED OBITO and fought konan..thats why he said that he was the one who gave nagato the rinnegan and then revealed his reall identity with pride and arrogance to konan to be uchiha madara...and he was honest when he said that..cuz he has no reason to lie to a dead konan..

-so through the curse seal tobimadara's controll obito and let him sometimes think he is doing action by his free will but then suddenly possess him...for exemple it was obito indeed who infiltrated konoha to visit Rin's grave with his free will...but then when tobidara learned from kakashi that kishina is giving birth to a baby naruto tobimadara suddenly took full controll over obito's body so that he unseals kurama from kushina...so only Madara and fews know the fact that the kiyubi's seals weakens during childbirth..EVEN OBITO DOESNT KNOW THAT!!!..

-NOW LET ME GIVE YOU THE TRUE PURPOSE OF THE CURSE SEAL :

when madara created black zetsu the other madara was already inside obito...then old madara told obito that he will disconnect himself and untill he is revive he instructed OBITO TO POSE AS MADARA!!!...old madara said that in front of black zetsu on purpose so that to trick both of obito and black zetsu into making them belive that old madara died...also old madara told obito to pose as madara so that when the 2nd madara takes full controll of obito's body and speak...obito or black zetsu will think that obito is posing as madara and managed to fool others like kisame and itachi..BUT IN TRUTH ITS MADARA SPEAKING...madara simply told obito to pose as madara so that obito wouldn't doubt about himself being controlled by tobimadara ...

-what is a puppet curse of seal?...(like the one used by fuu against Ao)..to my knowledge its the curse seal that allows BODY MIND SWITCH!!! wich is equivalent of tobidara invading obito's consiousness and controlling him...

-becuz of the curse seal obito doesn't remember many things about uchiha massacre, konoha kiyubi attack and mizukage manipulation...that is why he didin't say anything about them during nija world war arc...and that is why kishimoto skipped the missing explanations of tobi's mystery becuz he will reveal them in then new tobidata reveal..

-so in caze of nagato and obito and black zetsu betrays old madara or dont revive him...the 2nd madara or simply madara is the only guarantee for madara to revive himself...

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Minato's logic was right...do you think a 14 years boy can have such skilled plan and enter konoha stealthly and know about kyiubi unseal ritual and have SUCH DEEP OLD VOICE SIMILAR TO THAT ONE OF MADARA,??!!..


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the 2nd Madara will reveal us the truth of the masked man tobi and will be the one to trick kaguya...

MADARA IS THE FINALL VILLAIN OF THIS MANGA !!

 

[Slowpoke]

I can't wait until I read this ENTIRE post. ​

 

[Namikun]

Please, close this thread.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Good for you...

Troll more you are like sasuke fans who just can troll nothing more or less..

Kishi proved it that tobi = obito then how in the world tobi could be madara WTF ...I am sick of Your dumb logic

 

[mohdzarif]

Oh, you again.

If you really want people to actually read, at least type it with easier-to-read font settings.

 

[LUMOS ULTIMATUM]

Your theory is highly plausible. Good work minamoto.

 

[Mattek2008]

Wouldn't Obito know that his consciousness was being turned off and on at times?

That seems kinda iffy to me.

 

[minamoto]

Your theory is highly plausible. Good work minamoto.

thank you very much !

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Minamoto, has anyone ever told you you're annoying? I would really like to know how you are not banned after posting the same exact ****ing thread twenty times in a row and still at it.

 

[Klad]

Wrong section .

Go post this to FanFiction section .

 

[Byakugan12x]

hahahahahahahaha - sorry i need to laugh at this now before the thread is closed by the mods. i just cant believe you! wow! you know what i would salute you if you werent so stupid. how many threads have you posted on the same/similar topics. you amaze me sir, but not in the right way. God help you when the manga finishes and you're still spouting your nonsense. you go beyond all the other fanboys and trolls ive ever come across.

How about you just stop with all these pointless threads. Its getting old now.

p.s. Can't the mods just ban him for constantly annoying people with the same nonsense.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Yeah, cool.

 

[minamoto]

Wrong section .

Go post this to FanFiction section .

can you link me plz?...also i think im not allowed to double post this

 

[brownbear]

While I respect the time you put into this theory,I must dissagree. Even if madara's will took over obito from time to time he was still dead so he wasn't under madara's direct control,just the influence of his will.

Although,personally I just think that kishi has never had a solid plan for this story. So he writes connection from current events linking them to past ones. All while forgeting some small details that leaving growing plot holes he dosent notice or intend to patch up

 

[minamoto]

While I respect the time you put into this theory,I must dissagree. Even if madara's will took over obito from time to time he was still dead so he wasn't under madara's direct control,just the influence of his will.

Although,personally I just think that kishi has never had a solid plan for this story. So he writes connection from current events linking them to past ones. All while forgeting some small details that leaving growing plot holes he dosent notice or intend to patch up

1-thx for your comment

2- the tobimadara or the 2nd madara im speaking in this thread..isn't a madara clone..or a madara will...its an empty shell of madara...
another madara body is inside obito...notice in chapters 597 and 601..there's a portion of humain flesh( from tobidara) wich appeared in obito's right side arm...while obito's right side should've been fully made up of hashirama's cells....when kisame met tobi...kisame saw the true face of tobi wich is not obito' but tobimadara's..what happens is that when the 2nd madara take full controll of obito's body, then madara's cells would sruface on obito's body making tobimadara emerge....

3- i think kishi planned everything....and reall truth of anyplotwist is always revealed at the end of the manga

 

[Angelic.]

lol hi h8ter
obito was concious and aware when he attacked konoha.... if anyones will is inside anyone its kaguyas

 

[Seventh Sama]

TL;DR
tobidara is a fanfic.

 

[Flakez]

Looks like you won't give up, until the manga ends.

 

[minamoto]

Looks like you won't give up, until the manga ends.

exactly !!

 

[Flakez]

exactly !!

Prepare to be disappointed, then.