Jiraiya vs. Itachi

[Phonas]

And what does this prove?

Lmao Itachi put Kakashi in a genjutsu as well so stop

Ummm, it proves that Itachi refrained from using gnejutsu on Jiraiya, where if he did, Kisame would have immediately killed him, something that a loyal double agent of Konoha wouldn't want.

Yeah, he put Kakashi in Tsukuyomi but never killed him with it, as Kakashi noticed. And don't forget that Tsukuyomi ends in a split second. Exposing two people to it was enough trouble for one day. It's called acting.

 

[Draphsin]

Itachi takes it mid diff.

 

[LuckyMan]

Ummm, it proves that Itachi refrained from using gnejutsu on Jiraiya, where if he did, Kisame would have immediately killed him, something that a loyal double agent of Konoha wouldn't want.

Yeah, he put Kakashi in Tsukuyomi but never killed him with it, as Kakashi noticed. And don't forget that Tsukuyomi ends in a split second. Exposing two people to it was enough trouble for one day. It's called acting.

L0L you only argument is plot talk. Thats all he has left to cling to, nothing but plot talk. You need to learn first that all fights are non-plot in the versus colosseum. For example, it was plot that:

Danzo didn't use Kotoamatsukami on Sasuke
Onoki didn't fodderize all the edo kage with one shot jinton when they were held with Gaara's sand.
Deidara didn't immediately use C0 to kill everyone when he was revived, then he'd just reform afterwards

I can go on with this list. The point is all of that was because of plot, but it certainly, 100% without a doubt, could have happened. Stop talking about plot talk and talk about how Itachi uses his jutsu to actually win this fight because dialogue is getting you no where.

 

[Phonas]

Completely calm? After he used Amaterasu, what did he say? What did he do?

Notice how Itachi refrained from using Amaterasu on Jiraiya, and instead directed it towards the eso****us of the toad at the last second. Jiraiya has nothing to "instantly" counter Amaterasu.

he isnt a konoha shinobi as he isnt sent to missions nor wears the konoha headband

Then by that logic, Tsunade, Shizune, and Danzo were/are not Konoha shinobis: They don't wear Leaf head bands, nor are they sent on village ranked missions. Exceptions exist. Also, where has it been stated that one has to meet those requirements in order to be considered a "Konoha shinobi?"[FONT]

he obviously isnt an enemy but neither is he is someone who can come to the village's aid at a moment's notice, in this case fighting orochimaru, while shinobis like hiashi, inoichi etc etc can come

and hiruzen and anko werent aware of jiraiya's presence in village

It doesn't matter. Minato, a Konoha shinobi who couldn't have come at a "moments aid," had died 13 years ago from the time of that dialogue, but Anko immediately thought of him as being someone who can defeat Orochimaru, during the dire situation of Orochimaru's presence.


If Hiruzen and Anko believed Jiraiya to be the better, not only would they have mentioned his name, but also promptly send a scout division to go find him. Just as the elders sent Jiraiya and Naruto to go on a quick escapade to find Tsunade, recommending an Anbu division to tag along in the process.

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and mind showing me 'hiruzen's thought processes', unless you do, this point isnt going anywhere

Here you go:

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you posted a scan without a word which i took to meant that all uchiha are somehow superior to sannin

Regardless it should be quite evident that all full-fledged, top tier Uchihas are, indeed, stronger than Orochimaru in every right, by Orochimaru's own admission.

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^There are way more where that came from, just saying

lawl, orochimaru was simply famous as a genius among sannin (which he was as evident in their younger days), just like tsunade was a sucker at betting and jiraiya for his perverted behavior

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and btw jiraiya not being a genius at the start of his training as a shinobi somehow translates to being inferior to orochimaru?

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being a genius isnt a requirement to win a battle

A genius in shinobi based fightning, not just solely in the aspect of mental intelligence. The context in which the term "genius" was used was to portray Orochimaru as being the superior in combat. All of which was in reference to their glory days and everything prior to Orochimaru's hands being sealed.

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jiraiya is a shinobi that learns and hone his skills through experience and thats what made him a legend to the point that ninjas like itachi and kisame have to run with tails between their legs , being a genius isnt a requirement to win a battle

I've already overwhelmingly rebutted this nonsense.

L0L you only argument is plot talk. Thats all he has left to cling to, nothing but plot talk. You need to learn first that all fights are non-plot in the versus colosseum. For example, it was plot that:

Danzo didn't use Kotoamatsukami on Sasuke
Onoki didn't fodderize all the edo kage with one shot jinton when they were held with Gaara's sand.
Deidara didn't immediately use C0 to kill everyone when he was revived, then he'd just reform afterwards

I can go on with this list. The point is all of that was because of plot, but it certainly, 100% without a doubt, could have happened. Stop talking about plot talk and talk about how Itachi uses his jutsu to actually win this fight because dialogue is getting you no where.

Well, umm, that was the whole point of those 3 aforementioned scans I've provided. The plot + Itachi's pacifism is what saved Jiraiya's behind.

The only reason why I'm using "dialogue" is because I'm refuting the misconception that other people are using to base their claim on what Itachi compulsively lied about. I'm well aware that feats are greater than words in the Versus Colosseum; but still, Itachi's feats are better than that of Jiraiyas'.

Genjutsu ends the battle. I can write a comprehensive, in-depth analysis on how Itachi beats Jiraiya via feats, but then that would mean I have to waste my time going on a fools' errand just to substantiate what should be conspicuous.

By hype, Itachi > Jiraiya
By portrayal, Itachi > Jiraiya
By feats, Itachi > Jiraiya

Case Closed

 

[LustyLover]

J-man is overrated.

 

[LuckyMan]

Well, umm, that was the whole point of those 3 aforementioned scans I've provided. The plot + Itachi's pacifism is what saved Jiraiya's behind.

The only reason why I'm using "dialogue" is because I'm refuting the misconception that other people are using to base their claim on what Itachi compulsively lied about. I'm well aware that feats are greater than words in the Versus Colosseum; but still, Itachi's feats are better than that of Jiraiyas'.

Genjutsu ends the battle. I can write a comprehensive, in-depth analysis on how Itachi beats Jiraiya via feats, but then that would mean I have to waste my time going on a fools' errand just to substantiate what should be conspicuous.

By hype, Itachi > Jiraiya
By portrayal, Itachi > Jiraiya
By feats, Itachi > Jiraiya

Case Closed

Until you write that analysis absolutely nothing you have said so far holds no weight. Post an actual argument. Your idea of Itachi being superior to Jiraiya is obviously not as obvious to your peers on the base as you think it is, otherwise this topic would not have reached 5 pages.

Post your genjutsu argument, at least make this worth my time.