Senju vs Uchiha not a battle between quantity vs quality

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So many people believe that Uchihas have more quality chakra compared to Senju while Senjus have more chakra reserves. Well thats true to a certain degree but on the quality side I think they are the same.

Here is why:

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Now think about this ,Uchihas are affiliiated with Yin Release and have jutsus like Amaterasu, Different Fire Release techs , Susanoo, Tsukuyomi . The thing is that all these OP techniques are meant to destroy , are meant for killing and attacking opponents.

Now on the Senju part I'm going to take the most common example Hashirama. He has a workload of chakra that he can use to create life from wood. He relies on using techniques that are meant to create just how it is said that he founded the village and made all the trees using his Mokuton hence "Village hidden in the Leaves" and he also uses regeneration techniques. This are all jutsus related with giving life instead of destroying it.

Compare these two and you get this : Uchihas power is meant to kill while Senjus have to be more creative and use the power of creation twisting it to make it their ally on battle. It is much more difficult to do so, using creation techniques for battle. That is like using multiple catapults with rocks to crush a village instead of using a nuclear bomb to one shot it. Uchihas and Senjus are opposing complements of each others just like stated in the manga. And as Madara said power of creation vs power of destruction.

This is just my opinion anyway. Thanks for reading.



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[Klezmi]

I agree with you, my brothaaa

 

[BLAZE]

nice thread bro

 

[blackbullet]

nice thread bro

thanks :x3:

 

[TrollKing]

Your nuclear bomb was meant to describe uchiha according to you, but in manga it fits naruto perfectly while sasuke doesn't even have a grenade

 

[blackbullet]

Your nuclear bomb was meant to describe uchiha according to you, but in manga it fits naruto perfectly while sasuke doesn't even have a grenade

I used that as metaphore to describe that Uchiha powers are meant for war like a nuclear bomb is meant for war. Even so Naruto is manipulating a lot of chakra,rotating it. He has spent a long amount of time learning how to manipulate his chakra so it can destroy things while Uchihas main powers are gifted. His Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken is a mixture between his chakra and bijuus.

 

[TrollKing]

I used that as metaphore to describe that Uchiha powers are meant for war like a nuclear bomb is meant for war. Even so Naruto is manipulating a lot of chakra,rotating it. He has spent a long amount of time learning how to manipulate his chakra so it can destroy things while Uchihas main powers are gifted. His Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken is a mixture between his chakra and bijuus.

I don't think he needs to mix anything to form bijudama. If you say he mix his rasenshuriken with bijudama, you can say the same about sasuke mixing senjutsu with his leg susanoo. Bijudama is no brainer. Any jin can make a nuclear bomb easily

Chidori actually required as much hard work + intelligence

 

[Xāvî1]

Nice thread.

 

[LeSauce]

I don't see how this is related to their chakra. I mean what you focused on doesn't really correlate with the another.

Anyway, I think it's a good theory, but I don't know if what Hashirama did is enough to prove it. Both clans fought each other for multiple generations and both clans killed one another, so I don't understand how Senju would soley focus on creation.

I guess you do have a point though. Tobirama did create Edo tensei and that's, technically, using others to help you. This would focus more on cooperation though.

 

[Gagster]

No idea what you're talking about.
Uchihas don't innately have Yin release.
Senjus don't innately have Yang release.
They both used Ninjutsu for war and to destroy the other.
Senjus were superior however and they forced the Uchihas to surrender and then founded the Village.

 

[KingHashirama]

It was only Hashirama's "Senju" that were superior to the Uchiha, we have no clue of how it was before him.

 

[Vapid]

Hashirama wasn't an ordinary Senju. I mean, he had the powers of the God Tree at his disposal.

You can't compare Hashirama to the other Senjus, who were likely = Uchihas, because he was a damn god.

The only reason that the Senju won, towards the end of their war with the Uchiha, is because Hashirama grew up and entered the battlefield. Before Hashirama/Madara joined the war, it was actually a pretty even matchup between the Senju and Uchiha.

 

[KingHashirama]

Hashirama wasn't an ordinary Senju. I mean, he had the powers of the God Tree at his disposal.

You can't compare Hashirama to the other Senjus, who were likely = Uchihas, because he was a damn god.

The only reason that the Senju won, towards the end of their war with the Uchiha, is because Hashirama grew up and entered the battlefield. Before Hashirama/Madara joined the war, it was actually a pretty even matchup between the Senju and Uchiha.

No mate the entire clan under Hashirama was superior.

Unless you can prove where it stated Hashirama was the only superior one?

 

[TrollKing]

No mate the entire clan under Hashirama was superior.

Unless you can prove where it stated Hashirama was the only superior one?

Uchiha has sharingan while only hashi has wood, sm and so much chakra.

Strong senju: tobirama, hashi(on a different level)

Strong uchiha: madara, itachi, sushi, obito, sasuke, izuna, + any fodder has the eye gets the wank

 

[blackbullet]

I don't think he needs to mix anything to form bijudama. If you say he mix his rasenshuriken with bijudama, you can say the same about sasuke mixing senjutsu with his leg susanoo. Bijudama is no brainer. Any jin can make a nuclear bomb easily

Chidori actually required as much hard work + intelligence

Please read carefully. Bijudama rasenshuriken not pure bijudama. Remember when Naruto trained with Bee the moment he stole 9tails chakra. He tried making a rasengan only using Kyuubi chakra and it turned it into a bijuudama.

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If everyone could make Rasenshuriken Bijuu Damas then Madara would too. But that is Naruto's own attack. When Naruto and Bee get out the island you can see that Naruto starts using normal Rasengans with his Bijuu cloak on and Killer Bee says he trained him to do that.
He uses a his chakra to form the shape and then adds 9tails chakra as chakra reserves. But Bijuu dama is entirely a tailed beast power. Naruto just has the fate that Rasengas has the same mechanism behind it.

 

[Dantee]

That's a very interesting take on it. Great thread.

 

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Hashirama wasn't an ordinary Senju. I mean, he had the powers of the God Tree at his disposal.

You can't compare Hashirama to the other Senjus, who were likely = Uchihas, because he was a damn god.

The only reason that the Senju won, towards the end of their war with the Uchiha, is because Hashirama grew up and entered the battlefield. Before Hashirama/Madara joined the war, it was actually a pretty even matchup between the Senju and Uchiha.

Did you read the thread ? Im speculating on the quality of chakra. And all Senjus had lively bodies just Hashirama was way OP with self healing and great type of chakra reserves. That is why they were called the clan of a thousand skills.

 

[Mad Daz]

Im just here for the cute ghost

 

[blackbullet]

That's a very interesting take on it. Great thread.

Thank you.

 

[blackbullet]

Im just here for the cute ghost

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