Izanagi Misconception??

[Oblivionx]

I only skimmed through this, but did Sasuke kill Danzo several times during his set timeframe. Danzo had no regard as to how many times he was hit instead he kept on checking his arm to check with how much time he had.

I am pretty sure Izanagi is strictly time related

he kept checking his arm to know how many eyes were open( how many times he can get killed) not to know how much time was left...!
anyway i'm checking it again to count number of times danzo died... will let you know...

 

[phantomlord22]

danzo didn't die more than once with 1 eye... i just checked it and will check it again... and obito didn't even die there, he used izanagi to change reality and get out of there.. you can appear at any location you want with izanagi...

While the user remains physically real while fighting, this technique is capable of turning any occurrence including injuries and even death inflicted upon them while the technique is active into mere "illusions". Whenever the user receives a fatal injury, he or she automatically fades away as though they were an illusion all along and then returns back to reality


so they never die in the first place, so counting the times of death is meaning less
since it never happens

 

[Oblivionx]

While the user remains physically real while fighting, this technique is capable of turning any occurrence including injuries and even death inflicted upon them while the technique is active into mere "illusions". Whenever the user receives a fatal injury, he or she automatically fades away as though they were an illusion all along and then returns back to reality


so they never die in the first place, so counting the times of death is meaning less
since it never happens

no counting the number of times danzo died shows the number of times he used izanagi since we know that he had 10 eyes... and i counted the number of times danzo died and it's not more than ten times... hence he used one eye every time he died... proving 1 eye can only be used once for changing reality in given time limit...

 

[phantomlord22]

no counting the number of times danzo died shows the number of times he used izanagi since we know that he had 10 eyes... and i counted the number of times danzo died and it's not more than ten times... hence he used one eye every time he died... proving 1 eye can only be used once for changing reality in given time limit...

so you leave my explanation
and tobi's ---> manga facts
okay I don't know what else to debate

 

[ANiMUS]

no counting the number of times danzo died shows the number of times he used izanagi since we know that he had 10 eyes... and i counted the number of times danzo died and it's not more than ten times... hence he used one eye every time he died... proving 1 eye can only be used once for changing reality in given time limit...

What was the exact number?

 

[Oblivionx]

so you leave my explanation
and tobi's ---> manga facts
okay I don't know what else to debate

sorry for that.. =D

i know what you are saying and you are correct.. i'm just establishing limitations...

 

[Oblivionx]

What was the exact number?

from what i counted it was actually 9... excluding itachi's ghost genjutsu but i may have missed 1... =D

 

[ANiMUS]

from what i counted it was actually 9... excluding itachi's ghost genjutsu but i may have missed 1... =D

So according with ur theory an eye should have closed every single time Danzo died. Doesn't that seem a bit off to you? That means that Danzo's eyes wouldn't last the full minute every time. They would only close every time he died. There wouldn't have been any reason to check his eyes at all, instead he would have been much more cautious and tried to avoid dying rather than just running into them like he did

 

[Oblivionx]

So according with ur theory an eye should have closed every single time Danzo died. Doesn't that seem a bit off to you? That means that Danzo's eyes wouldn't last the full minute every time. They would only close every time he died. There wouldn't have been any reason to check his eyes at all, instead he would have been much more cautious and tried to avoid dying rather than just running into them like he did

it's not like he wanted to die... he couldn't avoid sasuke's attacks... he commented "avoiding that arrow is not an easy feat" and then on another occasions that "i'll take my chance on this one" referring to losing an eye while he tries to attack... you should read complete fight.. you'll understand... and if he knew that eyes were going to last 10 minutes then there was no need to check eyes but he didn't.. that's what is inferred by obito's comment in scan provided in OP...

 

[ANiMUS]

it's not like he wanted to die... he couldn't avoid sasuke's attacks... he commented "avoiding that arrow is not an easy feat" and then on another occasions that "i'll take my chance on this one" referring to losing an eye while he tries to attack... you should read complete fight.. you'll understand... and if he knew that eyes were going to last 10 minutes then there was no need to check eyes but he didn't.. that's what is inferred by obito's comment in scan provided in OP...

Actually, for the arrow he couldn't form the Izanagi hand seals in time and because of that he created a tree to divert the arrow.
Also, I doubt Danzo was dumb enough to risk trying a direct attack from the back after being crushed like he was. That was pure reckless

 

[Oblivionx]

Actually, for the arrow he couldn't form the Izanagi hand seals in time and because of that he created a tree to divert the arrow.

true...

Also, I doubt Danzo was dumb enough to risk trying a direct attack from the back after being crushed like he was. That was pure reckless

yeah he was being reckless but there was a reason for it... he didn't have any strong jutsus to do anything against susano so that was the only option for him to fight... as obito said i sasuke pulls back and doesn't use susano then danzo will deactivate izanagi but same goes backward... what's the point of izanagi if you are not going to attack you opponent... you can't die so you should be on the offense.. but too bad for danzo he didn't have anything offensive...

 

[ANiMUS]

true...


yeah he was being reckless but there was a reason for it... he didn't have any strong jutsus to do anything against susano so that was the only option for him to fight... as obito said i sasuke pulls back and doesn't use susano then danzo will deactivate izanagi but same goes backward... what's the point of izanagi if you are not going to attack you opponent... you can't die so you should be on the offense.. but too bad for danzo he didn't have anything offensive...

Vacuum bullet would have worked better than a kunai

 

[Oblivionx]

Vacuum bullet would have worked better than a kunai

he tried that one too... =D failed... and kishi had to kill him off and show working of izanagi.. also VB is mid range attack which is easier to block then close range fighting...

 

[ANiMUS]

he tried that one too... =D failed... and kishi had to kill him off and show working of izanagi.. also VB is mid range attack which is easier to block then close range fighting...

I meant as an attack from behind. To test susanoo's coverage using VB would have been a better approach

 

[VongolaX]

Inzanagi lets you to alter every event that happens around you when being activated.

Like what Sasuke did to Madara.

Obito's primary use of the rinnegan was to control all 7 bijuus all at once .

After the he became a juubi jinchuuriki, all use of his uchiha powers/senju powers increase in a massive scale.

He wasn't able to use mokuton branches, he was only able to use Jukai mokuton.

Same applies with inzanagi, he used it in a higher level which happens to be creation of all things.
(Not on Hagoromoo's level)

He was able to create the sage's sword and other various things.

And his sharingan genjustu increased to infinite tsukyomi as well.

 

[Oblivionx]

I meant as an attack from behind. To test susanoo's coverage using VB would have been a better approach

well that's one scenario and i agree that i would have been better but he didn't use it there... what can we do about it...

 

[Oblivionx]

Inzanagi lets you to alter every event that happens around you when being activated.

Like what Sasuke did to Madara.

Obito's primary use of the rinnegan was to control all 7 bijuus all at once .

After the he became a juubi jinchuuriki, all use of his uchiha powers/senju powers increase in a massive scale.

He wasn't able to use mokuton branches, he was only able to use Jukai mokuton.

Same applies with inzanagi, he used it in a higher level which happens to be creation of all things.
(Not on Hagoromoo's level)

He was able to create the sage's sword and other various things.

And his sharingan genjustu increased to infinite tsukyomi as well.

well that is true but that's not what's the focus of this thread is on... it's not about what you can create.. it's about how many times you can do it...

edit: also sasuke madara part i don't understand...

 

[Slowpoke]

When will I find the time to read that ENTIRE Post? ​

 

[VongolaX]

well that is true but that's not what's the focus of this thread is on... it's not about what you can create.. it's about how many times you can do it...

edit: also sasuke madara part i don't understand...

It's continuous

 

[Oblivionx]

When will I find the time to read that ENTIRE Post? ​

right now may be... *_*

It's continuous

doesn't seem to be.... :dunno: