[Theory] Madara Screwed Himself

[OaklandBlades]

This is quite the great idea, I'll be sticking to this fir now.

 

[Draven]

This is quite the great idea, I'll be sticking to this fir now.

glad you liked it thx

 

[Imm0rtal bAstard]

This is very good and makes sense. The piercing must have caused damage to the tool but then what about the other people sealed inside of it?

 

[Draven]

This is very good and makes sense. The piercing must have caused damage to the tool but then what about the other people sealed inside of it?

i thought about that they were solid bodies they are probably stuck in a sort of limbo type thing.

the part of kaguya would be like a spirit or manifestation so i think it being just her will it could escape

 

[akabara the vampire king]

Re: The Takeover

I gave myself time to rest and think after the chapter was released and here is what i came up with after seeing this last chapter.

Kaguya everyone knew it was coming some people were in complete denial but alot of people saw it coming.

Black Zetsu has been madaras will since he was created in the cave and acted as such all the way upto the recent chapter.

But i think i finally figured out the whole thing about the sages tools in tentens scroll.

This is how i think it went down When So6P and his brother fought their mother she incredibly strong maybe too strong for the tools to seal her away.
Maybe they used the crimson gourd and tried to seal her but only got part of her like Hiruzen only got Oros arms with the reaper death seal. Kaguyas body was absorbed by the tree itself and maybe her will went into the gourd.

When madaras Headband pierced through the gourd on tentens scroll maybe it released her will and she went into BZ at that moment and slowly took control of him maybe that why he has been standing completely still for the last few chapters.

With this being said that could be the reason Madara didnt see the BZkaguya attack coming because she wasnt there fully when Madara Landed in front of BZkaguya because it wasnt until Her body aka the shinju inside of madara got close that she started gaining power.

If this is the case then she isnt after Madaras body at all she wants the tree/herbody back and will kill Madara for it.


Also if this is really what kishimoto showed us about the tool scroll then it tosses my kohaku no johei theory out as well. So im hereby saying sorry to those of you i butted heads with it over.

This is such a BS!! zetsu has been created from the lotus of Mazo and when madara put his will inside zetsu to create black zetsu he was still connected to the mazo,that's where his will.and zetsu got corrupted not because of some scroll being pierced, BZ has been kaguya's will since creation

 

[Draven]

Re: The Takeover

This is such a BS!! zetsu has been created from the lotus of Mazo and when madara put his will inside zetsu to create black zetsu he was still connected to the mazo,that's where his will.and zetsu got corrupted not because of some scroll being pierced, BZ has been kaguya's will since creation

its a theory dude

i dont think you wrote the story neither did i this is called a theory look up the definition

plus you dont know what kishimoto is thinking neither do i so how can you say mine isnt the truth and i cant say yours isnt either. So instead of coming in here acting like you know the whole story of BZ. Why dont you point out where your getting your info from because if you cant provide proof of your assumption then its just speculation just like my theory.

I dont go into your theories and tell you that your absoulutely wrong without providing a valuable argument and i dont try and disprove yours without evidence to back it up.

 

[GsNp]

sorry but when did Madara's headband pierce the gord? I don't remember seeing this o.0

 

[Draven]

happened in chapter 677 shortly after tenten tripped

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[Genetics]

Possible, but i don't really think BZ was originally Madara's will. Didn't Kaguya compare Madara's ways with Obito's? That would mean she would have to witness Obito. She probably wouldn't know about Obito after getting unsealed from a scroll from a couple minutes ago.

 

[SamManzo]

I like this theory. It could be true. But, I believe she was the ten tails. The shinju had no conscious, emotions, nothing.. then suddenly Kaguya gets the fruit and it gets "angry"? What I'm saying is, is that when the ten tails was sealed, so was Kaguya. Her will controlled the ten tails. Jealous of her sons, she went rampant. If you think about it how could someone as conceited as Kaguya actually die by natural causes and let it happen? Her sons had to face her. Defeat her, then seal her. First, Hagoromo sealed the ten tails in himself. Since Obito was able to fight off the control of the ten tails tearing him apart, Hagoromo could too. Meaning his mother's will was dormant. Afterword, he divided the chakra into 9 other forms sealing the ten tails empty shell into the moon. The empty shell too humanoid form for some reason. Then, Madara awoke the rinnegan and summoned the ten tails shell.. and began to live off its vital energy. But, when he created black zetsu, RIGHT afterward, he tore the gedo from himself. Meaning, Kaguya was still linked.

Black Zetsu acted in Madara's interest only UP until the tsukuyomi was performed. Thats because IT is what Kaguya needs. Black Zetsu then began to focus mostly on how Sasuke was keeping everyone safe. Madara was busy dancing in joy or something. But, usually one panel things are foreshadow to something. That's why si think you're onto SOMETHING, but, not so sure it's that.

 

[seanmadison]

are you predicting that kaguya will also attain her own body like madara. meaning, madara would still have his body too?

i think that'd be kinda epic

 

[Draven]

Spoiler

Possible, but i don't really think BZ was originally Madara's will. Didn't Kaguya compare Madara's ways with Obito's? That would mean she would have to witness Obito. She probably wouldn't know about Obito after getting unsealed from a scroll from a couple minutes ago.

not saying you arent right but im seeing it from a different PoV but we will find out hopefully next week what is really going on

Spoiler

I like this theory. It could be true. But, I believe she was the ten tails. The shinju had no conscious, emotions, nothing.. then suddenly Kaguya gets the fruit and it gets "angry"? What I'm saying is, is that when the ten tails was sealed, so was Kaguya. Her will controlled the ten tails. Jealous of her sons, she went rampant. If you think about it how could someone as conceited as Kaguya actually die by natural causes and let it happen? Her sons had to face her. Defeat her, then seal her. First, Hagoromo sealed the ten tails in himself. Since Obito was able to fight off the control of the ten tails tearing him apart, Hagoromo could too. Meaning his mother's will was dormant. Afterword, he divided the chakra into 9 other forms sealing the ten tails empty shell into the moon. The empty shell too humanoid form for some reason. Then, Madara awoke the rinnegan and summoned the ten tails shell.. and began to live off its vital energy. But, when he created black zetsu, RIGHT afterward, he tore the gedo from himself. Meaning, Kaguya was still linked.

Black Zetsu acted in Madara's interest only UP until the tsukuyomi was performed. Thats because IT is what Kaguya needs. Black Zetsu then began to focus mostly on how Sasuke was keeping everyone safe. Madara was busy dancing in joy or something. But, usually one panel things are foreshadow to something. That's why si think you're onto SOMETHING, but, not so sure it's that.

thats all im asking dude is for people to keep an open mind not saying im right im not gonna be so stubborn like someone else on this forum to not take other peoples theories and logic into account im just thinking kishimoto is upto something

Spoiler

are you predicting that kaguya will also attain her own body like madara. meaning, madara would still have his body too?

i think that'd be kinda epic

no im no predicting anything this is a theory so its a guess and no im saying kaguya will take over madara

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

Interesting idea. I agree with what you said about the tools. Keep up the good work!

 

[narutoblitz]

Kaguya is going to get absorbed. Either that or Madara screwed himself by not destroying the gourd.

 

[Draven]

Interesting idea. I agree with what you said about the tools. Keep up the good work!

thanks glad you liked it

Kaguya is going to get absorbed. Either that or Madara screwed himself by not destroying the gourd.

maybe and maybe not who knows with the way kishi has been trolling us lately lol

 

[NaruSasuRival]

Re: The Takeover

This is such a BS!! zetsu has been created from the lotus of Mazo and when madara put his will inside zetsu to create black zetsu he was still connected to the mazo,that's where his will.and zetsu got corrupted not because of some scroll being pierced, BZ has been kaguya's will since creation

I thought if I said that, someone would complain, but you did it. I think you are the hero of this thread, and all the others who are agreeing with it have reading problem.

The truth is that Kaguya's will is inside both Madara and BZ because it was mixed with Gedo Mazou, and who knows the chakra of the Bijus. If Ashura, Indra, and Hagoromo can have their will travel, what keeps Kaguya's will from traveling. And if Madara can mix his will with gedo Mazou - the body of Juubi - then it is more clear that Kaguya's will would be there as well.

 

[Draven]

Re: The Takeover

I thought if I said that, someone would complain, but you did it. I think you are the hero of this thread, and all the others who are agreeing with it have reading problem.

The truth is that Kaguya's will is inside both Madara and BZ because it was mixed with Gedo Mazou, and who knows the chakra of the Bijus. If Ashura, Indra, and Hagoromo can have their will travel, what keeps Kaguya's will from traveling. And if Madara can mix his will with gedo Mazou - the body of Juubi - then it is more clear that Kaguya's will would be there as well.

like i told him this is a THEORY look up the definition of that word you cant say im wrong i cant say your wrong we will have to wait how kishimoto plays it out in the manga sorry if that rustles your jimmies but if you cant handle it then dont respond in a thread that says Theory in the title