[Spoilers] Have the latest villains been justified?

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It seems with the recent twist all the negativity tripled on the base due to different views on characters.

Sure things could've been different but do you think that the antagonists were justified in their final panels?

I loved the whole Kaguya deal but personally I would've wanted to see Obito use more rinnegan/ so6p techs before what happened with mr. Zestsu.
Anyways do you feel that the latest events have brought out dark agents justice?
 

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Honestly I was satisfied when Obito got defeated , it was a perfect ending for him . I hoped that Kaguya would become FV the moment Obito fell down , this Madara thing was completely lame .
 

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NV villains are always justified in the end
 

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i dont like how madara was picked off. for him to claim to be such a god and killed so effortless is disappointing
 

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These last 40 chapters have been disappointment. I'm already starting to move onto better things i.e. homestuck. Goodbye Naruto and narutobase and all you wonderful people. I just can't take the bs that is this manga anymore. Peace out, dudes.
 

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These last 40 chapters have been disappointment. I'm already starting to move onto better things i.e. homestuck. Goodbye Naruto and narutobase and all you wonderful people. I just can't take the bs that is this manga anymore. Peace out, dudes.

See you tomorrow :bye:
 

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These last 40 chapters have been disappointment. I'm already starting to move onto better things i.e. homestuck. Goodbye Naruto and narutobase and all you wonderful people. I just can't take the bs that is this manga anymore. Peace out, dudes.

Yeah , see you in Wednesday .
 

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It's funny how Orochimaru is the only villain who hasn't justified his actions in any way. : D
 

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Honestly I was satisfied when Obito got defeated , it was a perfect ending for him . I hoped that Kaguya would become FV the moment Obito fell down , this Madara thing was completely lame .

Agreed. Madara was major disappointment after he became a Juubi's Jinchurriki and Obito should have died like that... But hey we can't choose what happens can we now... u.u Let's just hope the final arc after this gets things epic again. Naruto vs Sasuke has to make the manga go out with a bang!
 

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It seems with the recent twist all the negativity tripled on the base due to different views on characters.

Sure things could've been different but do you think that the antagonists were justified in their final panels?

I loved the whole Kaguya deal but personally I would've wanted to see Obito use more rinnegan/ so6p techs before what happened with mr. Zestsu.
Anyways do you feel that the latest events have brought out dark agents justice?

Based on the chapter review thread, the majority actually seemed to be in favor of the twist with Madara. At first, I felt a littel disappointed by it, but all the same was still shocked and exilarated and upon rereading it, now believe it's much more realistic and unexpected than another ten chapters of Naruto and Sasuke exchanging blows with Madara. It reminds me of Julius Caesar when his men stabbed him in the back. It's not like we haven't seen what Madara can do. We've seen most of the Rinnegan techs by he and Nagato, he used that huge perfect susano'o to fight Hashirama, cleave mountains, control Kurama and utterly defeat all the kages. He also used Mokuton and the Rinnegan techs on another level in conjunction with his sharingan and became personal with several of the characters including Naruto, Sasuke, Obito, Tsunade, Hashirama, Tobirama and Onoki. He literally killed the two protagonists and succeeded in reviving the juubi and enacting Infinite Tsukuyomi. We saw the 8th gate thanks to him and learned the full story of the the Uchiha and Senju as well as the Ootsutsukis and the truth behind his manipulations and Rin's death. Now when he's finally succeeded in his goals and drunk and mad with victory, he finally lets his guard down and is proven he is not the supreme being, in knowledge, skills, ideals or power as was made in the very beginning of his character when he was continually defeated and resulted to stealing power rather than relying on his own to become stronger.

Obito I believe was done well for the most part. He really delivered as the juubi's jinchuriki and the sage's second coming with his powers, ideals and strategies. In the end, he was more rational than Madara, never fully trusted him, came off much more like Naruto and actually cared for the people and their ideals rather than belittling them. You could see he was being influenced by Naruto all the way back when Naruto defeated Kakuzu and Pein. I enjoyed he and Naruto's ideal clashes as well.

Kabuto's fight was epic, he became nearly insane himself and I enjoyed finally seeing his backstory, as well as witnessing his full intellect, powers and skills. Izanami was iffy for me, but it was symbolic of his character, changed him into helping Sasuke later and showed a weakness for Izanagi.

For other War arc characters, they weren't as fullfilling to me as the final antagonists. I was hoping for the Hanzo and seven swordsmen fights to be Akatsuki level and much more pivotal to the plot. The seven swordsmen are as legendary as the sannin, one was the original antagonist of the series, another was one of the strongest Akatsuki and Hanzo himself was the tyrant of Amegakure who fought with and named the Sannin but in the end was defeated by an old Samurai in like a chapter -_- lols.

The edo kages, Edo itachi and nagato and gold and silver brothers were much more enjoyable however, though like the seven swrodsmen, I wish the brothers had been more powerful and pivotal to the plot since they had Hagoromo's tools, pieces of Kurama, are descended from the Ootsusukis and are implied to have killed Tobirama. I believe Kishimoto may have been forced by his editors and publishers to cut some these characters and their fights short.
 

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Thanks for the response Horus I definitely feel you on the the whole Danzo ordeal.
We never once got to see what made Hanzo on such a level that he could mop the floor with 3 Sennin at one time.

We should have got to see a more in depth battle of the seven swordsman I think we all deserved an intense series of battles for all the hype/buildup for them as a group.

Obito was great as an ending I just mean as far as I would've liked more fire style jutsu and maybe a few more B-A scenes with him murking the alliance. (Obitos in my top5 char so kinda bias :D)

I've loved Madara as a villan and he hands down goes up there with kid/super buu as one of the greatest villains of all time.
 

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Based on the chapter review thread, the majority actually seemed to be in favor of the twist with Madara. At first, I felt a littel disappointed by it, but all the same was still shocked and exilarated and upon rereading it, now believe it's much more realistic and unexpected than another ten chapters of Naruto and Sasuke exchanging blows with Madara. It reminds me of Julius Caesar when his men stabbed him in the back. It's not like we haven't seen what Madara can do. We've seen most of the Rinnegan techs by he and Nagato, he used that huge perfect susano'o to fight Hashirama, cleave mountains, control Kurama and utterly defeat all the kages. He also used Mokuton and the Rinnegan techs on another level in conjunction with his sharingan and became personal with several of the characters including Naruto, Sasuke, Obito, Tsunade, Hashirama, Tobirama and Onoki. He literally killed the two protagonists and succeeded in reviving the juubi and enacting Infinite Tsukuyomi. We saw the 8th gate thanks to him and learned the full story of the the Uchiha and Senju as well as the Ootsutsukis and the truth behind his manipulations and Rin's death. Now when he's finally succeeded in his goals and drunk and mad with victory, he finally lets his guard down and is proven he is not the supreme being, in knowledge, skills, ideals or power as was made in the very beginning of his character when he was continually defeated and resulted to stealing power rather than relying on his own to become stronger.

Obito I believe was done well for the most part. He really delivered as the juubi's jinchuriki and the sage's second coming with his powers, ideals and strategies. In the end, he was more rational than Madara, never fully trusted him, came off much more like Naruto and actually cared for the people and their ideals rather than belittling them. You could see he was being influenced by Naruto all the way back when Naruto defeated Kakuzu and Pein. I enjoyed he and Naruto's ideal clashes as well.

Kabuto's fight was epic, he became nearly insane himself and I enjoyed finally seeing his backstory, as well as witnessing his full intellect, powers and skills. Izanami was iffy for me, but it was symbolic of his character, changed him into helping Sasuke later and showed a weakness for Izanagi.

For other War arc characters, they weren't as fullfilling to me as the final antagonists. I was hoping for the Hanzo and seven swordsmen fights to be Akatsuki level and much more pivotal to the plot. The seven swordsmen are as legendary as the sannin, one was the original antagonist of the series, another was one of the strongest Akatsuki and Hanzo himself was the tyrant of Amegakure who fought with and named the Sannin but in the end was defeated by an old Samurai in like a chapter -_- lols.

The edo kages, Edo itachi and nagato and gold and silver brothers were much more enjoyable however, though like the seven swrodsmen, I wish the brothers had been more powerful and pivotal to the plot since they had Hagoromo's tools, pieces of Kurama, are descended from the Ootsusukis and are implied to have killed Tobirama. I believe Kishimoto may have been forced by his editors and publishers to cut some these characters and their fights short.

^^ This. I completely agree... can't say anymore than that.
 

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Every villain except Oro has been justified, Itachi, Nagato, Obito, Madara
 

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It seems with the recent twist all the negativity tripled on the base due to different views on characters.

Sure things could've been different but do you think that the antagonists were justified in their final panels?

I loved the whole Kaguya deal but personally I would've wanted to see Obito use more rinnegan/ so6p techs before what happened with mr. Zestsu.
Anyways do you feel that the latest events have brought out dark agents justice?

Not yet. I suppose (hope) Kishi will fill the holes and justify them in the end, but right now there are far too many unanswered questions.
 
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