Am I the only one who thinks Sasuke is a........

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Yes, but the Manga presents otherwise. There's zero balance for either.



Well that's the problem. You always "criticize" him negatively. You don't highlight anything good, ever. It's the same merry-go-round of disapproval. Albeit you've probably never clarified how great it is that Naruto, Kakashi, and Sakura would be in slumber if Sasuke weren't there. :)
Solid advice; say you dislike Sasuke and move on, and realize pouring insults Isn't exactly the smartest criticism. It's his character to be harsh, people need to get over it and stop being stupid.



This guy gets it.
If my criticism is negative or not, it's irrelevant. It's a criticism, with arguments supporting my point. If it pleases you or not, that doesn't matter.
I'm not disagreeing that he is important. I acknowledge that. He is essencial. Without him, there would be no hope. That's a fact. Will I praise him for that? Should I praise everyone that is useful now? I acknowledge that, that's the basic need. I don't need to go further.
You don't see me praising naruto, or minato, or kakashi, because at some point, they were useful, do you?

Yeah, it's his character to be harsh. And to be a jerk. I'm criticizing this exact characterisct. I have this right. You're the one who should learn to deal with criticism, since it's a right of everybody.
 

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Always this oversexualized way of thinking..
OT: If he wants to revive his clan he will obviously need a wife to do so..
Right now all Sasuke cares about is winning. That's the best part about Sasuke: Unlike anybody else he focusses 100% on the mission at hand. Not like the rest who care about their fodder friends.
He said he'll avenge his clan. Not revive it.
 

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Different opinion? really you show that you really hate the character. Dont act like you dont
Yes. That's what you all do. If you don't praise sasuke as your god, you're a hater. As I said. I made a criticism. Debate, discuss, like a grown man. Instead of *****ing constantly about the "haters".
 

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Homosexual i can't be the only one.
Who else thinks he is a homo?

please dont get offended I am just asking a question.
no he's not!
he simply doesn't care for girls
he had so much important things to worry about
he always wanted to kill itachi and after that he wanted to avenge itachi and now the war, and he knew that falling in love would challenge his goal
so he turned off his emotional
but maybe after all this...
 
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Yes. That's what you all do. If you don't praise sasuke as your god, you're a hater. As I said. I made a criticism. Debate, discuss, like a grown man. Instead of *****ing constantly about the "haters".
Dude wtf is wrong with you as i said dont come at me with your bullshit. Debate and discuss? Someone puts a post about him and you all over him. If you dont like him fine, but dont start making up some bullshit.
 
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If my criticism is negative or not, it's irrelevant. It's a criticism, with arguments supporting my point. If it pleases you or not, that doesn't matter.
I'm not disagreeing that he is important. I acknowledge that. He is essencial. Without him, there would be no hope. That's a fact. Will I praise him for that? Should I praise everyone that is useful now? I acknowledge that, that's the basic need. I don't need to go further.
You don't see me praising naruto, or minato, or kakashi, because at some point, they were useful, do you?

Yeah, it's his character to be harsh. And to be a jerk. I'm criticizing this exact characterisct. I have this right. You're the one who should learn to deal with criticism, since it's a right of everybody.
Now you're assuming I'm disrespecting that right. I didn't attack you on that at all. I pretty much criticized your critique. Now you're not dealing with it. :rolleyes:

We've established his personality, but it doesn't do any potential for you to just go around insulting him around people who obviously like him. There's a difference between being entitled to an opinion and just degrading something. That's why people get the idea you're just aiming to piss off Sasuke fans. Listen to what I'm saying.


Yes. That's what you all do. If you don't praise sasuke as your god, you're a hater. As I said. I made a criticism. Debate, discuss, like a grown man. Instead of *****ing constantly about the "haters".
You legit sound like you're being brutally attacked dude. No one is forcing anyone to hail Sasuke as some Lord. They're just irritated by all the pointless insults. Like you can say someone is cold-hearted or harsh without calling them something tasteless like a douche. No one's asking you to shut up about your criticism, just I don't know, be more civil about it?
 
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Ok, first. Sakura atacked madara, and sasuke didn't give a single f*ck about what happened to her, because she is useless. Had madara riped her head of, he wouldn't care either. That's just as low.
And as for his talking last chapter, he was a douche. Why? Nobody in their right mind would would be a complete jerk to the few people left, when they are are in the edge of the end of the world, nor would anyone try to start a sort of dicatorship.

They were simply asking what was happening. They never said that they had power to do something. That's something quite normal people ask in a situation like that.

What sasuke did is low, and it's noe a behavior a hokage would have. Not caring about his comrades and disrespecting them simply because they're not as strong. That's pathetic.
Well Madara didn't rip her head off so we will never know until she dies or the war is over. Yeah Sasuke was a douche so what? He was a douche but told the truth and their sensei didn't even doubt nor scold him. How do you know that nobody in their right mind wouldn't act as Sasuke did? A lot of people would act the same way. What's wrong about being a dictator if you are the only one who can do SOMETHING while the others can't do anything at all (except Naruto)? Would it be better if Sasuke told them that they are strong and that they should believe in themselves just to get blitzed by madara? I don't think so. Anyway.. we will see how it all unfolds as the manga continues.
 

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Saying that Sasuke has been too preoccupied with other things isn't a good enough excuse. He's not thinking of the few goals he's had in this series every single waking second of his life. Chances are, his personality will remain the same after the war, considering that at it's core, he's always shown a level of disinterest. He's asexual. Let's just leave it at that.

Also, he never said he was going to have babies to recreate the Uchiha clan. When he was talking about clan restoration after Kakashi asked them what their goals were upon Team 7's formation, he was talking about honor-the honor that he was supposed to get back after killing Itachi. That's why his character is up in the air right now. The Uchiha seem innocent because no one knows the truth, and yet Sasuke still feels the system is wrong. How he wishes to fix it is unclear.
 
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Saying that Sasuke has been too preoccupied with other things isn't a good enough excuse. He's not thinking of the few goals he's had in this series every single waking second of his life. Chances are, his personality will remain the same after the war, considering that at it's core, he's always shown a level of disinterest. He's asexual. Let's just leave it at that.

Also, he never said he was going to have babies to recreate the Uchiha clan. When he was talking about clan restoration after Kakashi asked them what their goals were upon Team 7's formation, he was talking about honor-the honor that he was supposed to get back after killing Itachi. That's why his character is up in the air right now. The Uchiha seem innocent because no one knows the truth, and yet Sasuke still feels the system is wrong. How he wishes to fix it is unclear.

Maybe I got it wrong with his clan's revival because of the translation into the German language. I started watching Naruto in German and watched and read it later on with english subs/the manga.
I think Sasuke being preoccupied with his goals is a fine justification, because one of Sasuke's most distinctive traits is that he focusses more on his tasks than anyone else. Even Madara noticed this right away. It's just in his personality, the way he is.
 

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Saying that Sasuke has been too preoccupied with other things isn't a good enough excuse. He's not thinking of the few goals he's had in this series every single waking second of his life. Chances are, his personality will remain the same after the war, considering that at it's core, he's always shown a level of disinterest. He's asexual. Let's just leave it at that.

Also, he never said he was going to have babies to recreate the Uchiha clan. When he was talking about clan restoration after Kakashi asked them what their goals were upon Team 7's formation, he was talking about honor-the honor that he was supposed to get back after killing Itachi. That's why his character is up in the air right now. The Uchiha seem innocent because no one knows the truth, and yet Sasuke still feels the system is wrong. How he wishes to fix it is unclear.
I agree to restoring the uchiha clan part

but susake is not on his own, it's kishi
so kishi wanted to have a cold hearted shinobi who put every thing on the line for his goal
he wanted a character who looks exactly kinda selfish the one who is hurt the one who is lost
and there's only one thing that satisfy him, obtaining his goal
that's why kishi showed that many girls care about him, but sasuke doesn't cause he has no time for this
at least he thinks that way, and beside this is the way to show that how cool and heartless he is
but you're right even after obtaining his goal 2 times in the series he never changed cause he was lost again

but he thinks that this time he found the right answer after talking to hokages and after realizing what itachi truly had done
and it's s shonen jump manga, there are no love or romantic stuff about most of the characters
 

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Well Madara didn't rip her head off so we will never know until she dies or the war is over. Yeah Sasuke was a douche so what? He was a douche but told the truth and their sensei didn't even doubt nor scold him. How do you know that nobody in their right mind wouldn't act as Sasuke did? A lot of people would act the same way. What's wrong about being a dictator if you are the only one who can do SOMETHING while the others can't do anything at all (except Naruto)? Would it be better if Sasuke told them that they are strong and that they should believe in themselves just to get blitzed by madara? I don't think so. Anyway.. we will see how it all unfolds as the manga continues.
Telling the truth is not an excuse to be such a jackass,and more importantly, in a situation like that. Because it's simple common sense. Only idiots would try to make THAT situation worse. A dictatorship hels in absolutely nothing. It only decreases the interaction of the members of the team, decreasing the teamworkd, which, at this point, is essencial, as none of them can stop madara alone.

A good leader would say: "don't worry, I'll protect you". An ******* would say "step out of the way, you're useless". In the pain arc, naruto knew everyone else was useless, but he didn't treat them like trash, did him now? Well, sasuke did.
 

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Now you're assuming I'm disrespecting that right. I didn't attack you on that at all. I pretty much criticized your critique. Now you're not dealing with it. :rolleyes:

We've established his personality, but it doesn't do any potential for you to just go around insulting him around people who obviously like him. There's a difference between being entitled to an opinion and just degrading something. That's why people get the idea you're just aiming to piss off Sasuke fans. Listen to what I'm saying.




You legit sound like you're being brutally attacked dude. No one is forcing anyone to hail Sasuke as some Lord. They're just irritated by all the pointless insults. Like you can say someone is cold-hearted or harsh without calling them something tasteless like a douche. No one's asking you to shut up about your criticism, just I don't know, be more civil about it?
How come you criticized it, when you didn't put a counter-argument against mine? You simply said I'm criticizing him in a negative was, as if that mattered.

It's not a matter of liking him or not. I'm not insulting him. An insult would be "sasuke is complete *******, because I don't like him". Had I made the post like this, I would pay for you to punch my face, because I would deserve it. However, I'm criticizing his characteristc, and justifing my judgment with arguments based on his actions.
You're the one who need to learn the difference between the 2. I'm not aiming at anyone. I'm simply stating a conclusion, that, at this point, hasn't been disproved.

I already covered the insulting part. And as for the being more civil, I'll consider it. But I found no way to describe his current behavior.
 
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Telling the truth is not an excuse to be such a jackass,and more importantly, in a situation like that. Because it's simple common sense. Only idiots would try to make THAT situation worse. A dictatorship hels in absolutely nothing. It only decreases the interaction of the members of the team, decreasing the teamworkd, which, at this point, is essencial, as none of them can stop madara alone.

A good leader would say: "don't worry, I'll protect you". An ******* would say "step out of the way, you're useless". In the pain arc, naruto knew everyone else was useless, but he didn't treat them like trash, did him now? Well, sasuke did.
If the difference in power between people is too big, them working together will have a smaller output than the strong one working alone. So acting alone is better in SOME situations. So in your oppinion being polite is more important than finishing the mission in the most efficient way. That may be you oppinion. Sasuke can't stop Madara alone. He needs Naruto for that and that's why he only works with him. He knows that. That's why he only told Sakura and Kakashi that they couldnt do anything.
In the Pain arc Naruto wasn't even there, lol. All he had to do was fighting Pain straight on and nobody except Hinata for a brief moment did get in the way.
 
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