Fair To Say Kisame Is The Strongest Akatsuki Member Without Dojutsu

[ObitoRolent]

Obito said to nagato after the 6 paths vs jiraya fight that nagato was invincible. His exact words were... " What kept you?, Someone managed to delay the invincible pain. The legendary sannin Jiraya lives up to his reputation. "

That's called manipulation Lol.

 

[LuckyMan]

Diedara is the strongest Akatsuki member. He kills the whole group by flying up then dropping the village buster. GG

 

[Da Best Ever]

He can just go to the real Nagato and kill him.

That isn't an easy feat to accomplish.

Obito with sharingan was never better than nagato or the 6 paths of pain. Obito kamui would have been countered, it is known and has been said several times in the manga that obito is vulnerable when warping himself and others because he has to solidify himself to do so, in the instance he teleports to nagato, nagato being arguably the greatest sensor every will sense obito and use stjust as obito is trying to warp him. Now once obito is hit by it he is knocked back and he cannot nor won't make it back to nagato before the 5 seconds is up because or the distance he would have to cover. Konan already stated nagato can use the 6 paths abilities himself so he would just summon his animal summons to aid him and obito can't do 9 summons attacks plus nagato.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Diedara is the strongest Akatsuki member. He kills the whole group by flying up then dropping the village buster. GG

Nope, itachi can still solo just like sasuke used that genjutsu to trick deidara. Obito would just warp to the other dimension, sasori would fly away with his main puppets( he could still get caught by the blast though), nagato survives because he can just use almighty push, the pains would survive because they are lifeless bodies, konan would fly away and separate into many pieces, kakuzu could survive depending on his hearts and hidan cannot be killed even with his head cut off he is still alive in that forest where shikamaru left him, kisame well he can use the water dome jutsu and fuse with samehada and use the sheer size and density of the water dome to absorb the c4 impact.

 

[Da Best Ever]

That's called manipulation Lol.

Nope, its not called manipulation. Obito even said when nagato died that nagato was the 3rd 6 paths, he never referred to himself like that until he got the rinnegan himself. True obito did manipulate nagato into the malevolent person he was before his talk with naruto but nagato has always had his own agenda and plan for piece that did not coincide with obito's. Also, obito only manipulated nagato into using the akatsuki for his purposes such as gathering the bijuu, not for anything else and like I said nagato had his own plan for what to do with them.

 

[TruthSayer]

That isn't an easy feat to accomplish.

Obito with sharingan was never better than nagato or the 6 paths of pain. Obito kamui would have been countered, it is known and has been said several times in the manga that obito is vulnerable when warping himself and others because he has to solidify himself to do so, in the instance he teleports to nagato, nagato being arguably the greatest sensor every will sense obito and use stjust as obito is trying to warp him. Now once obito is hit by it he is knocked back and he cannot nor won't make it back to nagato before the 5 seconds is up because or the distance he would have to cover. Konan already stated nagato can use the 6 paths abilities himself so he would just summon his animal summons to aid him and obito can't do 9 summons attacks plus nagato.

Stop with wall of texts
Ot: Yea i agree

 

[The Grand Pubba]

Orochimaru > Kisame

If you mean the ones that did not defect then it be between Kisame and Kakuzu

ANd Konan > Kisame with prep time.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Orochimaru > Kisame

If you mean the ones that did not defect then it be between Kisame and Kakuzu

ANd Konan > Kisame with prep time.

Orochimaru < Kisame

Water Dome Jutsu solo's him, he still needs to breathe.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Stop with wall of texts
Ot: Yea i agree

If you can read then it shouldn't be a problem to you then, can you read?

 

[The Grand Pubba]

The battle would not be decided that quickly. That is like me saying Orochimaru puts Kisame in genjutsu cuts of head before he can brek it GG. your pretty bias if you think it would be that easy.
Kisame said himself that he is not sannin level. Orochimaru has one of the biggest arsenals in the manga. Im pretty sure he has a counter to the water dome.

 

[slaton02]

Kisame> Itachi so he is the 3rd strongest. How can anyone disagree when you look at their skillsets

Itachi- low stamina and chakra | Kisame- high stamina and chakra+ chakra absorber
Itachi- fire style|Kisame- water style
Itachi- genjutsu user| Kisame- sensor, living chakra being sword
Itachi- small AoE techs- Kisame- large AoE techs
Itachi- very smart, susanoo, spritual weapons| Kisame- knows itachi well, waterdome, 1000 sharks, Healer, GSB

Cmon now

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

I'd say Kakuzu. His experience and diversity are better. He can match and trump Kisame's element. Their chakra reserves have basically both appeared to be limitless. Only Kisame having the edge because his sword absorbs chakra.


But yeah... Kisame and Kakuzu would be the strongest non-dojutsu users.

Orochimaru > Kisame

If you mean the ones that did not defect then it be between Kisame and Kakuzu

ANd Konan > Kisame with prep time.

No. Absolutely not. Konan with prep time at ONE CERTAIN LOCATION was able to attack Obito who had not anticipated it. Honestly... Kisame could probably just Water dome himself to escape the trap. Kakuzu's Doton Domu tanks because they are simple explosions.