[Theory] Madara Screwed Himself

[Draven]

The Takeover

I gave myself time to rest and think after the chapter was released and here is what i came up with after seeing this last chapter.

Kaguya everyone knew it was coming some people were in complete denial but alot of people saw it coming.

Black Zetsu has been madaras will since he was created in the cave and acted as such all the way upto the recent chapter.

But i think i finally figured out the whole thing about the sages tools in tentens scroll.

This is how i think it went down When So6P and his brother fought their mother she incredibly strong maybe too strong for the tools to seal her away.
Maybe they used the crimson gourd and tried to seal her but only got part of her like Hiruzen only got Oros arms with the reaper death seal. Kaguyas body was absorbed by the tree itself and maybe her will went into the gourd.

When madaras Headband pierced through the gourd on tentens scroll maybe it released her will and she went into BZ at that moment and slowly took control of him maybe that why he has been standing completely still for the last few chapters.

With this being said that could be the reason Madara didnt see the BZkaguya attack coming because she wasnt there fully when Madara Landed in front of BZkaguya because it wasnt until Her body aka the shinju inside of madara got close that she started gaining power.

If this is the case then she isnt after Madaras body at all she wants the tree/herbody back and will kill Madara for it.


Also if this is really what kishimoto showed us about the tool scroll then it tosses my kohaku no johei theory out as well. So im hereby saying sorry to those of you i butted heads with it over.

 

[AnimusOra]

Interesting very interesting but at the same time it also seems that when Madara awoke the rinnegan is when he might have inherited Kaguyas will. At that moment is when Indras spirit must have left him and born into Sasuke.

 

[Draven]

Interesting very interesting but at the same time it also seems that when Madara awoke the rinnegan is when he might have inherited Kaguyas will. At that moment is when Indras spirit must have left him and born into Sasuke.

that kinda makes sense but i have a feeling it was the gourd because BZ was acting in madaras best interest up until the gourd was pierced

 

[so12p]

I gave myself time to rest and think after the chapter was released and here is what i came up with after seeing this last chapter.

Kaguya everyone knew it was coming some people were in complete denial but alot of people saw it coming.

Black Zetsu has been madaras will since he was created in the cave and acted as such all the way upto the recent chapter.

But i think i finally figured out the whole thing about the sages tools in tentens scroll.

This is how i think it went down When So6P and his brother fought their mother she incredibly strong maybe too strong for the tools to seal her away.
Maybe they used the crimson gourd and tried to seal her but only got part of her like Hiruzen only got Oros arms with the reaper death seal. Kaguyas body was absorbed by the tree itself and maybe her will went into the gourd.

When madaras Headband pierced through the gourd on tentens scroll maybe it released her will and she went into BZ at that moment and slowly took control of him maybe that why he has been standing completely still for the last few chapters.

With this being said that could be the reason Madara didnt see the BZkaguya attack coming because she wasnt there fully when Madara Landed in front of BZkaguya because it wasnt until Her body aka the shinju inside of madara got close that she started gaining power.

If this is the case then she isnt after Madaras body at all she wants the tree/herbody back and will kill Madara for it.

Interesting thought. It connects two unanswered questions.

 

[Draven]

Interesting thought. It connects two unanswered questions.

lol thanks the last chapter was bugging me so i just began to think that maybe thats why the tree spoke to madara and i also thought maybe thats why kishi forshadowed the tools being pierced by madaras headband. This is what i think all this was leading upto now its the only thing that makes any sense in my mind

 

[Hokage Jay]

That is pretty correct Nice theory

 

[Draven]

That is pretty correct Nice theory

thanks just came to me after i slept for a few hours after the chapter came out lol

 

[Sakura Michiko]

Re: The Takeover

That is really interesting. I felt that Kaguya was going to attack Madara sooner or later..something was telling me that he was like her puppet.

 

[Draven]

i dont think he was actually being played by her i think she wasnt even in the equation until tenten tripped and madaras headband pierced the benhisago

 

[Honord Sage]

Well, do not Women know how to wrap men arrow n their fingers from Eve on to today, Strait Men weakness is Women has ben and hasn't change at all.

 

[Hata Hideaki]

seems possible. nice find by the way.

 

[Angelic.]

nobody knows wtf happened lol. the sudden change in bz was strange.

 

[Draven]

seems possible. nice find by the way.

thanks

nobody knows wtf happened lol. the sudden change in bz was strange.

yea noone knows what really happened till kishi lets it out but this seems plausible to me

 

[GoldenSage]

Re: The Takeover

I gave myself time to rest and think after the chapter was released and here is what i came up with after seeing this last chapter.

Kaguya everyone knew it was coming some people were in complete denial but alot of people saw it coming.

Black Zetsu has been madaras will since he was created in the cave and acted as such all the way upto the recent chapter.

But i think i finally figured out the whole thing about the sages tools in tentens scroll.

This is how i think it went down When So6P and his brother fought their mother she incredibly strong maybe too strong for the tools to seal her away.
Maybe they used the crimson gourd and tried to seal her but only got part of her like Hiruzen only got Oros arms with the reaper death seal. Kaguyas body was absorbed by the tree itself and maybe her will went into the gourd.

When madaras Headband pierced through the gourd on tentens scroll maybe it released her will and she went into BZ at that moment and slowly took control of him maybe that why he has been standing completely still for the last few chapters.

With this being said that could be the reason Madara didnt see the BZkaguya attack coming because she wasnt there fully when Madara Landed in front of BZkaguya because it wasnt until Her body aka the shinju inside of madara got close that she started gaining power.

If this is the case then she isnt after Madaras body at all she wants the tree/herbody back and will kill Madara for it.


Also if this is really what kishimoto showed us about the tool scroll then it tosses my kohaku no johei theory out as well. So im hereby saying sorry to those of you i butted heads with it over.

Genius Theory! I like it!

 

[Draven]

Re: The Takeover

Genius Theory! I like it!

wouldnt call it genius but its all i could come up with after kishi trolling us and madara for the last 2 chapters LOL

 

[B00m]

Madara has been an ignorant fool. There are many times Kaguya's will could of came into the picture, and you would have to thinks its after he "died" and retained the Rinnegan because you can't have two peoples wills (unless Indras will was also Kaguya's from the beginning). Even then we don't know what happened or what role Hagoromo's brother has.

I like to believe ever since he connected himself to the Gedo to cheat death is when Kaguya's/Jubi's influence started. The only reason he was able to ward it off after becoming Jubi's Jin was due to SM.

My only question is who has control of who, Kaguya>Jubi or Jubi>Kaguya. It be hard not to think the Jubi is the ultimate "evil" here seeing as it justifiably wants to be whole again and existed before Kaguya and got its power stolen from her which created ninjutsu. That's where Hagoromo's ninshuu will ultimately triumph and possibly let the Jubi return to its original state. The best endings come full circle you could say.

 

[ClydeFrog]

Cool theory dude. In what chapter did Madara pierce the gourd so I can go back and see it myself?

 

[Draven]

Cool theory dude. In what chapter did Madara pierce the gourd so I can go back and see it myself?

happened in chapter 677 but it was madaras headband that pierced the scroll

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[B00m]

To the imagine above, I completely missed that, such a small panel, but would it make sense even when it's on a scroll? Seems like a stretch sorta. But the fact that you have Kaguya's face on the next page after it is very interesting.

 

[Draven]

To the imagine above, I completely missed that, such a small panel, but would it make sense even when it's on a scroll? Seems like a stretch sorta. But the fact that you have Kaguya's face on the next page after it is very interesting.

yep thats why i put it together after seeing this last chapter i thought the important part was seeing the kohaku no johei in the scroll but seeing kaguya taking over BZ now the benhisago makes sense being shown pierced

if you think about it when weapons are in the scroll they are there till they are summoned but what do you think if the scroll had a tear through the weapon in the scroll would the weapon come out unscathed or would it be damaged?