[VS] DSM Kabuto vs Nagato

[Mattek2008]

Who takes it?

Nagato is mobile.

Edo Tensei is restricted.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

-nagato may not have any counter to sound genjutsu
-preta path can't absorb kabuto's bone penetration
-nagato may not counter white rage
-hard to capture kabuto with his oro replacement and heightened reflexes/sensing
-liquefaction /kidomaru chakra armor may tank ST
-kabuto may not be able to escape CT
-hard to escape bansho tennin

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Nagato to wins easily.

 

[Haizaki]

Nagato to wins easily.

Lol that's too far

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

No it isn't.

 

[Rufus ShinRa]

Nagato neg diff

 

[Gold Lightning]

Planetary Devastation ftw!

 

[Beans2]

Nagato mid diff.

 

[Apêx1]

Nagato very high diff.

 

[Bronze]

Kabuto mid diff.​

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Kabuto is capable of winning this, but I can see where people are coming from with saying Nagato wins. A very interesting battle, IMO.

 

[Inert Brian]

I've seen this battle done before, and i'm still sticking to my current argument.

-If Nagato goes for a BT then Kabuto uses muki tensei and it shoots right in front of his face.

-When Muki Tensei explodes the sound leaves Nagato immobile. He'll also put his hands on his ears. He can't use ST.

-Kabuto is sensing the chameleon due to SM, Chameleon isn't doing anything.

-Kidomaru's webs will take out every Summoning Nagato has. Even the dog.

-Sound Genjutsu is what will deliver the final blow in this fight.

-If Nagato goes for a CT then Kabuto gets Sound genjutsu off which stops Nagato, ending the jutsu.

-This might sound far fetched, but Kabuto theoretically could use inorganic reanimation on the CT debris, destroying the core?

 

[Apêx1]

I've seen this battle done before, and i'm still sticking to my current argument.


-If Nagato goes for a BT then Kabuto uses muki tensei and it shoots right in front of his face.


-When Muki Tensei explodes the sound leaves Nagato immobile. He'll also put his hands on his ears. He can't use ST.


-Kabuto is sensing the chameleon due to SM, Chameleon isn't doing anything.


-Kidomaru's webs will take out every Summoning Nagato has. Even the dog.


-Sound Genjutsu is what will deliver the final blow in this fight.


-If Nagato goes for a CT then Kabuto gets Sound genjutsu off which stops Nagato, ending the jutsu.


-This might sound far fetched, but Kabuto theoretically could use inorganic reanimation on the CT debris, destroying the core?

1. He needs to touch the ground for Muki Tensei. BT has shown vs Fukasaku, Naruto, among others to pull the opponent towards them while they aren't in contact with the ground.
2. Muki tensei is inorganic substance control. I fail to to see how it explodes. If you are speaking of White rage, then ST easily ends it due to the fact the sound is only generated due to the dragon screeching the orb. The Orb being separated from the dragon means no sound or light. Oh, and don't use japanese names to look smart. It makes you look when you misuse it Senpō: Hakugeki no Jutsu.
3. Chameleon isn't needed.
4. Kidomaru's webs will, but that's if Nagato watches him change sound 5 every single time without catching on on what's about to happen. Not mentioning the fact he can absorb the webs via preta path.
5. Lol. tayuya's genjutsu was being pushed back by temari's fan, I don't see why ST cannot do the same on a much larger and more effective scale.
6. CT isn't necessarily required, but usable. A strong ST will push Kabuto far enough that the slow genjutsu will never reach pre-CT launch.
6. That's assuming he can control inorganic matter that isn't a single piece i.e. a cave. That's assuming the core of the CT is physical. That's assuming he will be capable of putting his hands on the debris correctly without being knocked around by flying rocks and massive gravitational force.


BT+Ashura+Soul rip should end.

 

[Inert Brian]

1. He needs to touch the ground for Muki Tensei. BT has shown vs Fukasaku, Naruto, among others to pull the opponent towards them while they aren't in contact with the ground.
2. Muki tensei is inorganic substance control. I fail to to see how it explodes. If you are speaking of White rage, then ST easily ends it due to the fact the sound is only generated due to the dragon screeching the orb. The Orb being separated from the dragon means no sound or light. Oh, and don't use japanese names to look smart. It makes you look when you misuse it Senpō: Hakugeki no Jutsu.
3. Chameleon isn't needed.
4. Kidomaru's webs will, but that's if Nagato watches him change sound 5 every single time without catching on on what's about to happen. Not mentioning the fact he can absorb the webs via preta path.
5. Lol. tayuya's genjutsu was being pushed back by temari's fan, I don't see why ST cannot do the same on a much larger and more effective scale.
6. CT isn't necessarily required, but usable. A strong ST will push Kabuto far enough that the slow genjutsu will never reach pre-CT launch.
6. That's assuming he can control inorganic matter that isn't a single piece i.e. a cave. That's assuming the core of the CT is physical. That's assuming he will be capable of putting his hands on the debris correctly without being knocked around by flying rocks and massive gravitational force.


BT+Ashura+Soul rip should end.

1. I suppose it could be argued whether or not he could get white rage off while in mid air. If he couldn't then yea BT and soul rip wins.

2. My bad I meant white rage, I get the two confused lol.

3. Chameleon is useless here.

4. The only summoning that poses a threat to Kabuto is the dog, I don't think he'd necessarily need to worry about the ram or bird. But I don't see how Nagato counters Kidomaru's webs even if he sees them coming. ST could counter yea, but because the web Kabuto shot was so large, Nagato will have to use a larger ST to push it away, Kabuto can then follow up with Muki tensei afterwards and end the fight there. Kimi's bones will work too because he was able to get off Kimimaro's bone technique quickly afterwards.

5. Went back and reread Tayuya vs Temari, you're right her fan defleted the sand. But here's the thing. Since the OP never stated intel, then it'd be assumed to go by what they know about each other. Meaning Kabuto has full intel, and Nagato only knows about SM. Nagato doesn't know about sound genjutsu so how can he necessarily prepare for it? This also means that Kabuto can prepare counters to BT, he easily decieved EMS Sasuke with snake clones.

6. CT is his best shot at taking Kabuto down since it's his best technique. But technically the fight should come to an end before that happens because of sound genjutsu, Kabuto also knows what CT is, so he wouldn't let the fight get to that point.

6. Actually it won't work because Kabuto cannot connect his chakra to isolated pieces.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Nagato all the way.

 

[Apêx1]

1. I suppose it could be argued whether or not he could get white rage off while in mid air. If he couldn't then yea BT and soul rip wins.

2. My bad I meant white rage, I get the two confused lol.

3. Chameleon is useless here.

4. The only summoning that poses a threat to Kabuto is the dog, I don't think he'd necessarily need to worry about the ram or bird. But I don't see how Nagato counters Kidomaru's webs even if he sees them coming. ST could counter yea, but because the web Kabuto shot was so large, Nagato will have to use a larger ST to push it away, Kabuto can then follow up with Muki tensei afterwards and end the fight there. Kimi's bones will work too because he was able to get off Kimimaro's bone technique quickly afterwards.

5. Went back and reread Tayuya vs Temari, you're right her fan defleted the sand. But here's the thing. Since the OP never stated intel, then it'd be assumed to go by what they know about each other. Meaning Kabuto has full intel, and Nagato only knows about SM. Nagato doesn't know about sound genjutsu so how can he necessarily prepare for it? This also means that Kabuto can prepare counters to BT, he easily decieved EMS Sasuke with snake clones.

6. CT is his best shot at taking Kabuto down since it's his best technique. But technically the fight should come to an end before that happens because of sound genjutsu, Kabuto also knows what CT is, so he wouldn't let the fight get to that point.

6. Actually it won't work because Kabuto cannot connect his chakra to isolated pieces.

1. No, he needs to puke it out, he isn't puking with his chest all the way infront.
2. Ight
3. Ight
4. All summons pose a threat. I said preta path absorbs it, not st's it away. Preta absorbs chakra and webs are made of chakra, it's a non factor. Nagato isn't watching him use Muki tensei, nor is he dying to it given the fact he can either levitate if it's on a small scale, or simply make his body made of metal via ashura.
5. Pretty sure he's a sensor and has the rinnegan. There's no reason for him not to realise a sound genjutsu is happening when he sees a flute, you're severely underrating Nagato's intelligence here.
6. Again, Bansho tenin+Ashura+soul rip ends it.
6. Yup.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Can go either way, Kabuto wins more times then not.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Definitely one of those matches that could go either way. Both combatants have multiple ways of beating the other.​

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[Prince Charles]

dsm kabuto has his chances, I already debated this matter.

 

[ARGUS]

Nagato wins this