[VS] Kakuzu Versus Hokage (Indiviually)

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Against Danzo it all comes down to which way he is facing when Danzo summons Baku

He beats, Minato, Tobirama,Tsunade and Hiruzen

Loses to Hashi

Hiruzen stomps so badly it isn't even funny.

 

[Inert Brian]

Hiruzen stomps so badly it isn't even funny.

Old loses, Edo or Prime wins.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Old is edo, as far as retcon is concerned.

 

[Latios]

Against Danzo it all comes down to which way he is facing when Danzo summons Baku

He beats, Minato, Tobirama,Tsunade and Hiruzen

Loses to Hashi

Shit just go real. Zexion made a post defending Lord Kakuzu. Prepare for your jimmies to be rustled.

 

[Zexion~]

Round 2: Tsunade - Tsunade wins this one mid-high-diff imo (controversial opinion lel).

In short; Byakugo tanks any elemental jutsu thrown if she gets caught, chakra scalpel allows her to cut his threads and masks off, her punches >> Domu.

How are you going to have a controversial opinions then common untrue reasons? Chakra scalpel is useless when put in the same position Kakashi was in

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Kakashi couldn't even use his Raikiri before his heart was almost gone, Doubt Tsunade who is <<< Kakashi in CQC speed and reactions is going to be able to do anything, not to mention when the hands are restrained that is gone. Yes, she can tank his elemental jutsu however they still act as a perfectly good deterrent in keeping Tsunade away from Kakuzu, Especially seeing as Two of them, Trip up the enemy, and the other crushes the opponent and them blows them away U_U Meanwhile Kakuzu ends it by ripping her heart out via threads, EXTREMELY Doubtful Byakugo is able to regenerate a brand new beating heart.

Round 3: Minato - Minato should win mid-diff.

Domu isn't active all the time and Minato is not only one of the fastest shinobi ever, he's also one of the most clever. He just needs to tag Kakuzu and wait for an opening. The masks are taken down in a similar manner or with a summonings help (which i don't see necessary).
His SM Rasengan could possibly overcome Domu, but that's only speculation.

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"Jutsu is invoked at the moment of attack U_U" Kakuzu only needs to use the Hand sign on full body Domu" None of Minato's fast paced attacks require Kakuzu to use full body Domu. Not to mention Kakuzu was able to react to an ambush Raikiri with his Domu U_U

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Reacting to Minato's fast attacks won't be extremely difficult and after he realizes who he's fighting (as he probably already knows about his abilities...) He goes Long Range mode, stays away and knocks down all of Minato's Kunai with his threads

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Dodging the threads and elemental jutsu that are huge and noted in the Data book for being extremely hard to dodge

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Round 4: Hiruzen - Hiruzen should take this high-diff.

Yeah, he's got stamina/chakra problems, but i can see the old man handling this since in the end he has got the right tools to deal with this.
Like Minato he's also very clever and highly perceptive, he should identify Domu has a Doton right away. After this a simply Raiton would do the trick. It may not be easy to catch Kakuzu off guard (since Kakashi had to rely on a surprise attack), but while Hiruzen can choose which element to spit, the masks always spit the same element, this is another point where his intellect comes into play. Once the masks are taken down i don't see why should someone as skilled as him have a problem, especially since it becomes a 2v1 at that point.

Kakuzu wins this for that exact reason, When Hiruzen uses his Raiton, Kakuzu fires two bolts of Gian, One which kills Hiruzen other catches and blocks his Raiton U_U

As i finally found Confirmation that Gian is on par with lightning blade

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[Princessu Kaaantchan]

What if Hiruzen chooses to fire off two Fuutons instead of Raiton? That's the logical thing to do, and it's the reason Kakuzu will never best him.

Kakuzu can only have four masks, each with one affiliation. Hiruzen can have four clones with every affiliation.

Plus Hiruzen actually has feats for all of them.

 

[Zexion~]

What if Hiruzen chooses to fire off two Fuutons instead of Raiton?

Then Kakuzu fires off a Katon? Which would then Expand into a huge fire storm and engulf both fuutons U_U

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Kakuzu is already dead by this point.

Here's an example:

Kakuzu combines a Katon and Fuuton combo.

Hiruzen counters with a Suiton and Fuuton combo, which defeated Kakuzu's move in the manga.

 

[RedRobin]

What if Hiruzen chooses to fire off two Fuutons instead of Raiton? That's the logical thing to do, and it's the reason Kakuzu will never best him.

Kakuzu can only have four masks, each with one affiliation. Hiruzen can have four clones with every affiliation.

Plus Hiruzen actually has feats for all of them.

Old Hiruzen has only shown ability to use 2 clones at 1 time. So only 3 elements at a time.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

I'm not debating old Hiruzen. Plus it was retconed.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Alas the rage that filled me with the underrating of Kakuzu has left,making me able to rape you mongrels once and for all.

Edo Hiruzen wins mid difficulty. Old Hiruzen Extreme High difficulty. Due to the chance of running out of chakra. Hypothetical Young Stamina freak Hiruzen wins Low to Mid.

 

[BlacLord™]

Shodai, Nidaime, and Yondaime take him without a doubt.

Sandaime is debatable with his Raiton feat but I'd still give it to Kakuzu as the aforementioned's feat was rather a primitive form, and due to Kakuzu's other, obvious advantages.

Tsunade... I'm leaning towards Tsunade on this, for her raw physical strength and potential to maybe outlast him but I'm unsure; can Kakuzu do enough damage to end Tsunade? His Domu punch wasn't strong enough to put Kakashi down for very long at all.

As for Danzo, I think Kakuzu should be able to deal with him.

 

[Zexion~]

Kakuzu is already dead by this point.

How so? Kakuzu's shown to have a katon that could easily engulf both fuutons of Hiruzens U_U And since the relationship between Fuuton and Katon is a bit different then most, Kakuzu;s Katon will hit the first Fuuton and become a Katon + Fuuton Combo then hit the next one looking like

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(Behind Kakuzu) And become an even stronger and larger Jutsu Probably even bigger then this one

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Depending on how much chakra Kakuzu puts into his Katon

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Edo Hiruzen wins mid difficulty. Old Hiruzen Extreme High difficulty. Due to the chance of running out of chakra. Hypothetical Young Stamina freak Hiruzen wins Low to Mid.

Young Hiruzen could use Tajuu Kage Bushin.

Talk about bukkake fest.

 

[Zexion~]

Young Hiruzen could use Tajuu Kage Bushin.

Talk about bukkake fest.

Im assuming this is old Kage hiruzen?

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

How so? Kakuzu's shown to have a katon that could easily engulf both fuutons of Hiruzens U_U And since the relationship between Fuuton and Katon is a bit different then most, Kakuzu;s Katon will hit the first Fuuton and become a Katon + Fuuton Combo then hit the next one looking like

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(Behind Kakuzu) And become an even stronger and larger Jutsu Probably even bigger then this one

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Depending on how much chakra Kakuzu puts into his Katon

But in the fanfic scenario he just used gian. If Kakuzu uses four masks, Hiruzen will counter with four opponents minimum. Therefore Hiruzen can easily shift and change the Jutsu he uses to counter Kakuzu.

Plus if Kakashi could intercept Gian I don't have much doubt Hiruzen could casually dodge it, considering he kept up with Tobirama.

Im assuming this is old Kage hiruzen?

I just said young Hiruzen, but the DB implies even the old one can.

Which doesn't make sense.

 

[Zexion~]

But in the fanfic scenario he just used gian. If Kakuzu uses four masks, Hiruzen will counter with four opponents minimum. Therefore Hiruzen can easily shift and change the Jutsu he uses to counter Kakuzu.

Plus if Kakashi could intercept Gian I don't have much doubt Hiruzen could casually dodge it, considering he kept up with Tobirama.



I just said young Hiruzen, but the DB implies even the old one can.

Which doesn't make sense.

I meant the thread in general that this is Kage Hiruzen?

And well he can...Just like one clone probably >.<

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Hiruzen is essentially a V2 Kakuzu that isn't a fodder.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Hiruzen is a more versatile Kakuzu :l He has a better defense, Enma.

 

[Zexion~]

They have an equal defense besides the raiton weakness :|

Kakuzu has the greater versatility with base stats along with his threads

Kakuzu's jutsu are also have much more depth and abilities to them such as tripping,crushing,blowing,piercing U_U Meanwhile Hiruzen's are practically unknown

Kakuzu's hearts are also a lot more agile and harder to destroy then Hiruzens clones U_U