[Discussion] Possible Insight from Kishimoto on Combatting IT

[Kirokill]

How can moon be blown up?Seriously?!How can the world survive without the moon?

It is said Six Paths Sage created the moon

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It also said he was sealed in the core, but I don't remember where

But...

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there is a moon here already. Which is before his death.

 

[Byron123]

As for your first point I'm not sure if it was Naruto finding out the solution. I think that what gave him power was the fact that he managed to remember his past by thinking of the shape that scroll had. But afterwards, I think that Obito broke the infinitive tsukuyomi on his own as Menma, who was the only one who could give him Naruto,had failed, and so he couldn't do anything more because of his limited abilities in that world.

As for the rest I agree that it's some sort set-up for the actual thing.

 

[Byron123]

It is said Six Paths Sage created the moon

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It also said he was sealed in the core, but I don't remember where

But...

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there is a moon here already. Which is before his death.

Yeah that also had me wondered.

 

[Jarex]

Don't think it will be that easy

 

[Sarutobi Sensei]

Great read!

I've thought destroying the moon is the way to stop the IT, but it does seem impossible to do so.

BUT, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it anyway, and just maybe by sheer luck, they manage to chip the moon..?
That way IT probably would get weakened and everyone's connection with Naruto would help them break out of IT. Just my two cents.

 

[so12p]

Is it sexist if I actually believe you are a girl from how you write?

@OT

I think the fruit will emerge and someone(Naruto) probably will consume it and use it's powers to free his comrades and seal Madara away... It sounds real clíche but that is Kishimoto's style, IMO.

If going by the above it makes sense when Sasuke tells Naruto to wait, I doubt the Genjutsu can be stopped at this point via normal means, people have already become batteries for the Shinju Tree.

This also goes well with Naruto's new found Chakra control prowess, because he might end up re-introducing Ninshuu to the Ninja world?

Yes, yes it would. But no offense taken.

 

[so12p]

Yeah that also had me wondered.

I always took the whole SO6P thing as a NV urban legend. I think it was there before Kaguya, but too lazy at the moment to check all the old chapters.

 

[so12p]

As for your first point I'm not sure if it was Naruto finding out the solution. I think that what gave him power was the fact that he managed to remember his past by thinking of the shape that scroll had. But afterwards, I think that Obito broke the infinitive tsukuyomi on his own as Menma, who was the only one who could give him Naruto,had failed, and so he couldn't do anything more because of his limited abilities in that world.

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I did not take it that way. At the end, Obito was holding a shattered crystal, which seems to me was broken by Naruto's kunai.

 

[so12p]

Before I read it, I read that you say that Kishi introduces things in the manga that are incosistent to the manga? How big is his role in the anime to begin with?

I understood it was his work, though other naruto work he be done by apprentices. I had to double check, though, since you asked. According to one source, "Naruto: Road to Ninja Film's Story, Designs Penned by Kishimoto."

EDIT: source is -

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[-ahhimane-]

I used to think the same. But IT will be completely different otherwise it would be pointless in actually putting everyone in IT when we already know what gonna happen in IT world.

 

[Trea]

I know Naruto and Sasuke have to beat Madara together, but I don't believe beating Madara will end IT. I too think that I think that Ninshu is going to play a role in breaking IT along with byakugan users. I don't think it's a coincidence that Kaguya has byakugan which makes me believe that byakugan will play a more prominent role in the next few chapters.

Ninshu is supposed to spread hope. That was the purpose of it when SO6P created it. To help give people a sense of hope and well being. I don't think Hinata's clan is in the dream world. I think they fell into the genjutsu due to the fact you can see the rinnegans but I think they are not dreaming like everyone else. I think they are fully aware of what's happening and can't stop it alone. I think Hinata's clan and ninshu will help break the genjutsu.

 

[NaruSasuRival]

Maybe destroying the moon is impossible, but if you consider that Rikudo created the moon, then it is possible to destroy it and recreate it.

Concerning the way IT will end, I think it will end when Madara is beaten and the Shinju sealed again. They will be a battle of sages ahead. My opinion is that there are many theme in the manga, and one of them is that one should accept what belongs to him and play his role. madara will be beaten so that he can accept his natural place in the Narutoverse.

 

[Byron123]

I understood it was his work, though other naruto work he be done by apprentices. I had to double check, though, since you asked. According to one source, "Naruto: Road to Ninja Film's Story, Designs Penned by Kishimoto."

EDIT: source is -

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I did not mean that, what you provided proves that Kishi himself did the Road to Ninja but it doesn't mean that he has a role in general in the anime.

 

[so12p]

I did not mean that, what you provided proves that Kishi himself did the Road to Ninja but it doesn't mean that he has a role in general in the anime.

I have no idea how much he is involved or when he decides generally when/why to take over as he did for Road to Ninja. I only offered up the anime in this case because I thought it might lend some insight as to what he is thinking in terms of IT and potential limitations.

 

[Morrigan Aensland]

How can moon be blown up?Seriously?!How can the world survive without the moon?

Uhh piccolo destroyed the moon and earth survived. Also it was said that so6p created the moon with chibaku tensei. Was there a moon before so6p or did he create it like legends say

 

[cmoG]

Is it sexist if I actually believe you are a girl from how you write?

@OT

I think the fruit will emerge and someone(Naruto) probably will consume it and use it's powers to free his comrades and seal Madara away... It sounds real clíche but that is Kishimoto's style, IMO.

If going by the above it makes sense when Sasuke tells Naruto to wait, I doubt the Genjutsu can be stopped at this point via normal means, people have already become batteries for the Shinju Tree.

This also goes well with Naruto's new found Chakra control prowess, because he might end up re-introducing Ninshuu to the Ninja world?

If Naruto gets the fruit, then Sasuke does as well.

 

[Aim64C]

I think it is possible that people will break out of Tsukuyomi, and I think Naruto has already, in a sense, defeated it.

This is one of those rare times where "Friendship" actually makes sense as a plot-victory mechanic. The purpose of Tsukuyomi is a dream world where everyone accepts a false reality shown to them. This works when there are many false ideas and many false ideologies to keep people isolated and separated from each other.

But when everyone was already somewhat united around a common vision and had a strong amount of respect for one individual - it's quite possible that the ability to keep people isolated in their own personal dream-world is muted.

Within that is a sort of similar theory regarding Ninshuu. Naruto, essentially, utilized Ninshuu when he spread the Fox's chakra out amongst the alliance. This has, in a sense, sown the seed of empathy - of Ninshuu. I suspect the Shinobi Alliance will 'connect' to each other through the chakra of the God Tree. Perhaps this will be in the form of a common 'dream world' - which ultimately becomes impossible to sustain and the illusion ends when the people realize they do not need the illusion.

Basically - if peace can be achieved inside of a common illusion - why couldn't peace be obtained in a common reality?

Perhaps that would appease the God Tree and quell its anger, rendering at least half of IT moot. The paralysis/hypnosis might end with the collapse of the dream world... or perhaps it would be a separate obstacle to overcome.

 

[WalksInShadows]

I always took the whole SO6P thing as a NV urban legend. I think it was there before Kaguya, but too lazy at the moment to check all the old chapters.

considering Tendo attempted to use CT to trap Naruto in his transformed state when he made that statement and Madara saying GM was trapped in the moon, it seems that the tale is to be taken as a true story until further revelations show otherwise.

 

[Gemeyes]

Maybe the fact that the sensory ball at hidden Leaf headquarters breaking into 2 is a sign that the illusion is fading as the "spiked world" (shown by the spikey sensory ball) is starting to show and the real, smooth world is the world Naruto and everyone is entering as time runs out..
Maybe Madara cast "reality" and everyone can see what Obito or Kaguya did and it looks like Madara cast a horrible genjutsu..till they realise it's actually wearing off, and people are really waking up.