Whom do you think destroyed Uzushiogakure (Village hidden in the eddies/the uzumakis)

[SkyGodHorus]

I think they were destroyed before madaras time by other nations.

It isn't stated when exactly they were killed off, but they were still around when Konoha was founded by Hashirama as was shown with he standing next to the Uzumaki clan leader with his headband. It's also stated Minato learned his fuinjutsus from them, which wouldn't have been possible if the village was destroyed and the few remaining survivors were scattered and hidden.

 

[Conspirator.]

I think Madara was behind the downfall of the Uzumaki clan, and the kirigakure shinobi were his puppets to accomplish that goal. I also believe that he may have planned the uchiha massacre, but that's another topic.

 

[Rohan]

Madara and the Bloody Mist.

 

[A e r o]

It isn't stated when exactly they were killed off, but they were still around when Konoha was founded by Hashirama as was shown with he standing next to the Uzumaki clan leader with his headband. It's also stated Minato learned his fuinjutsus from them, which wouldn't have been possible if the village was destroyed and the few remaining survivors were scattered and hidden.

I thought minato learned sealing techniques from kushina. While kushina learned sealing from mito who could have learned the techniques from the clan herself.

Edit: nevermind just realized the clan was still alive when kushina left.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

I thought minato learned sealing techniques from kushina. While kushina learned sealing from mito who could have learned the techniques from the clan herself.

Edit: nevermind just realized the clan was still alive when kushina left.

You're right. According to Kushina, she was the one who taught Minato the fuinjutsus. However, before that, she also states the village was still around during her lifetime.

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[Hori]

The answer is simple I believe 5he Uzumaki clan was assassinated by the fire fuedal lord of that time, afterall all they had to was hire a bunch of clans and then send them to the uzumakis. Remember that the daimyos wanted to kill 5he uchiha and senju so badly so why not kill their allies to diminish their strength? For mw this is the logical choice

 

[SkyGodHorus]

The answer is simple I believe 5he Uzumaki clan was assassinated by the fire fuedal lord of that time, afterall all they had to was hire a bunch of clans and then send them to the uzumakis. Remember that the daimyos wanted to kill 5he uchiha and senju so badly so why not kill their allies to diminish their strength? For mw this is the logical choice

...When was it stated the feudal lords wanted to kill the Senju and Uchiha?

 

[Hori]

...When was it stated the feudal lords wanted to kill the Senju and Uchiha?

Well take a look at this manga scan you will see what Hashirama is saying

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Well if you want more info as to why I am saying this look at this thread then

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[SkyGodHorus]

Well take a look at this manga scan you will see what Hashirama is saying

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Well if you want more info as to why I am saying this look at this thread then

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That was before the founding of the villages and as Hashirama said, all the clans of the fire country came together as a result and the peace was made.

 

[Xāvî1]

Civil war most likely

 

[Hori]

That was before the founding of the villages and as Hashirama said, all the clans of the fire country came together as a result and the peace was made.

Well that certainly is true, if you look at what Hashi said "If the greatest shinobi the Uchiha and Senju join hands... the country will stop finding other shinobi clans to take us on"

Well from that statement the country Hashi is referring to must be the daimyo... and when they did not succeed in killing them, then I assume they properly tried to decrease their enemies allies which would be destroying Uzumaki's. About founding of Konoha while Whirl pool village existed I think they were.. but that doesn't mean Daimyos would not attck them if they were a threat

 

[Rustled]

Because their village was a war zone?

 

[Honord Sage]

I need scans bro

You have to read several Manga's to put the pieces together Kushina telling Her story and the Uzumaki to Naruto who was fighting Kurama, And some chapters about the Mizukage,Kissime were Madara first contacted Kissame and later Madara was replace by Obito posing for Madara. 1 years ago one guy had all the chapters and pages and had it posted in this forum showing that it happen after Kushina left the Uzumaki Village to become Kurama next host prior to the 2 Ninja War both Minato and Kushina were at the academy. But started with Naruto meeting Kushina.

 

[Byron123]

In fact I have a very speicific theory about that:

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Beind said so, I don't need go into further details XD

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

I'd day the Cloud. These nigguhs want power they hungry. They have 2 Jinchūriki. 2 tails and 8 tails what do they want more?

 

[Byron123]

It was already stated that Madara being in control of the Mizukage order Mist and its Allie to destroy the Uzumaki village to segregate it from its Sister village in Kohna. And to stop Madara's fear of the Uzumaki Clan for they are the World greets Seal Masters.

Lol not once was that stated. You take things out from your as*. "Wolrd greets Seal Masters", for real? Provide a scan or at least a specific chapter which supports your statement.

 

[BlacLord™]

It's already been stated that the country was destroyed by others, out for fear for their crude but powerful sealing methods.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Well from that statement the country Hashi is referring to must be the daimyo... and when they did not succeed in killing them, then I assume they properly tried to decrease their enemies allies which would be destroying Uzumaki's. About founding of Konoha while Whirl pool village existed I think they were.. but that doesn't mean Daimyos would not attck them if they were a threat

The shinobi serve and protect the country and feudal lords. They even gave them body guards called the twelve fire guardians and the shinobi are the country's militia, it's military power so I'm not seeing your logic about the feudal lords wanting to kill their own forces and protectors. It doesn't make sense.

 

[Bronze]

Madara destroyed the Uzumaki clan. I theorized this, because Uzumaki's Fuin techniques would pose a danger to the Tsukuyomi Eye Plan. You can read it below:

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Introduction​

I am here to publish my theory of why i believe Madara was the master manipulator behind the destruction of Uzushiogakure/Uzumaki clan. Its a long theory that i have been working on for almost 2 weeks now. I have been doing quite a lot of research, watching video theories and reading past manga chapters. So now that i have everything i need in place, i will post my theory. I hope you all enjoy it

So before i start the theory, i will be posting the chapter references, using the timeline provided by @IKSOKRIPS, @Mellanoma theory of the Uchiha Tablets.

Naruto - Overall Timeline:

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Uchiha Tablets >

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So lets start the theory=D:​

The Connections Of Uzumaki Clan, Rikudou Sennin, Younger Son And Uchiha Tablets

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Based on the amount of evidence i have done, i came to a conclusion that it no other than Madara Uchiha who had caused the destruction of Uzumaki clan. Now why do i believe such a thing?

Its simple:

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The Eye Moon Plan

The Uzumaki were indeed a thread to this plan and the reason for that is residing in their Fuinjutsu/Sealing jutsu.

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(Chapter 500)

The uzumaki clan were feared for their extremely power sealing techniques. Such techniques that they were actually passed down by Rikudou Sennin, the most powerful fuinjutsu user and shinobi.

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(Chapter 467)

The sealing jutsu Rikudou used to seal the Juubi in himself was most likely an Uzumaki jutsu since going by Obito's words and Kurama's words:

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(Chapter 499)

Most of the sealing jutsu had most likely came from the SO6P himself because:

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(Chapter 462)

The younger son himself. He has powerful life force, strong body and physical energy that is even comparable to the Uzumaki going by Kushina's statement. Since the Uzumaki are only related to the Senju whos ancestor itself is the Younger son, it is logical to say that he most likely he inherited the sealing techniques that his father had which explains why the Senju are known as:

the clan with a thousand skills, in which you can find in the 3rd databook called Shinobi Evolution Record:

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With their respective desires a heart, they've trained diligently for about three years. Please take a look at their astonishing progress!!

Banner of text on the top: Three years since the data from the Tou no Sho!
Caption: Tou no Sho and Sha no Sho... An exhaustive (tn: That?! Exhaustive?! ...Okay...Less work for me, I guess...) comparison of the new and old ability parameters, focusing on the shinobi of Konoha!! We'll use the data to show you their growth doesn't simply mean they just got taller, fer cryin' out loud!!*

In every chart: Tou → Sha

Uzumaki Naruto
A special mention must go to taijutsu aaand, and... what intelligence!! In both of those, his scores went up by 1.5!! Could that mean the master novelist Jiraiya didn't simply pound a new jutsu into him...?!

Haruno Sakura
Over 2 points up in three entries! With her evolution in taijutsu and strength, is it appropriate to name her the "second coming of Tsunade"......?!

Uchiha Sasuke
Sasuke, who's made the label of "genius" his wish, demonstrates his true worth even here!! Now that he's obtained Mangekyou Sharingan, his scores should increase even further!!

Nara Shikamaru
His overwhelming intelligence is alive and well!! Thanks to his increased stamina, he plans on leaping even higher.

Hyuuga Neji
An unavoidable necessity because of the tiresome use of Byakugan, his evolution in stamina is remarkable!!

Rock Lee
The "genius of effort" has improved even further. Is there an end at all to Lee's corporal evolution?!

Gaara
Being instated as a Kazekage would be the fruit of his accumulated practice. His intelligence, genjutsu and the like have climbed up!!

A link is here>

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As we already know, Obito knew the younger son's story from the Uchiha Tablets who seem to have relationship with the Uzumaki because the Uzuamki themselves are descendants of the Senju:

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(Chapter 646)

So who taught Obito the knowledge of everything written in the Uchiha Tablets?

Answer: Madara Uchiha himself. Madara has read everything in the tablets with his EMS:

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(Chapter 646)

He read the story of Rikudou Sennin, his children, and everything and passed most of that knowledge to Obito which explains why the young uchiha knows about it.

This is where @Mellanoma theory of the tablets comes into. You guys might want to read it since it contains the full information. You can find the link i posted in the introduction.

So with that being said, Madara himself knows the Uzumaki sealing techniques in which they inherited from the younger son and Rikudou Sennin that were all written in the tablets. With that being said everything in the next argument that i am going to focus on is going to be easy to understand.

Now that i have finished my part 1 of theory, i can now move on to part 2 in which is the main objective of the thread.

Madara Taking Control Of Kirigakure

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This part 2 of the theory in which i will explain why Madara had took control of this village. After his battle with Hashirama Senju, Madara had healed his wounds and ready to start his plan:

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(Chapter 606)
So what could Madara have been doing after being healed. As far as i am concerned, Madara awoke the rinnegan when he was very old so what has he been doing before that? Do you honestly think he was just sitting in a chair waiting to awake his rinnegan? No he went to Kirigakure to take control of the 4th Mizukage. Why do i think that?

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(Chapter 605)

Look at what the hunter of mist village says. He calls his village the bloody mist, but waitO_O, wasn't it mentioned that Kirigakure was called the bloody mist when Obito took control of the 4th Mizukage, however that would be impossible because Obito was just around 13 years old and he didn't awoke his Sharingan nor he had the ability to utilize it. So who could possibly have enough power to control 4th Mizukage who was a perfect jinchuriki:

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-who could possibly have enough power to fool a village itself?

Answer is no other than the one who has the true power of the sharingan, the one who was feared by all, the one who there is nothing impossible for him. Madara Uchiha.

Madara controlled 4th mizukage and kirigakure and had them work for him long enough to meet Obito. Now this is where the Naruto-timeline comes into a play. That's why i posted its link in the introduction for you all to have a look at. This timeline will strongly support my theory.

So according to it:
Madara after healing his wounds was around 62 years ago, now if we look at 4th Mizukage birth, it says 40 years. So that means the time span between Madara in his cave and Yagura finally coming out his mom's p0ssy is 22 years.

At the same time, Madara was born around 97 years ago, so after Hashirama's battle, Madara age was 97-62=35, so now that we have calculated Madara's age in that specific time, when Yagura was born, Madara was 35+22=57, so Madara was 57 by that time. Now that we have an idea of Madara's age aprox, we can move on...

the timeline also shows the second shinobi world war, now this is the important part. Second shinobi world war was 28 years, so by the time it started, Yagura was around the age of 22 years old, while at the same war, Nagato's parents were killed, Kushina was moved to konoha.

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So if these events were happening during the second shinobi world war, then that means by that time Madara had already given his rinnegan to Nagato. Lets look at the timeline to calculate Nagato and Kushina's age:

Nagato was born 37 years ago and Kushina was born 34 years ago, so with that being said, Nagato was 9 years old and Kushina was 6 years old during the second shinobi world war events.

While looking at the timeline, the destruction of Uzumaki clan had finally happened during the second shinobi world war which means Nagato was at Rain village and Kushina was at Konoha. Looking at Narutowiki information:

-Konoha were battling against Hanzo and his village.
-Sunagakure against Konoha since Chiyo stated that Tsunade countered her poisons during that time
-Iwagure and Kumogakure didn't have any involvement.

As we already know, Iwagakure were most likely focusing on their own village. Kumogakure usually steal jutsu from other places going by Ay's words during the kage summit. So it is unlikely that they destroyed Uzumaki clan. But what were Kirigakure doing at that time?

Madara had used them to destroy kirigakure while at the same time moving Nagato away from the country so he can revive him.

The reason why Madara did it is because they are going to be a huge trouble for his plan due to their powerful sealing jutsu. If the Uzumaki clan were here by fourth shinobi war, Naruto giving them chakra will allow them to seal the juubi and Madara had to make sure this doesn't happen so he destroyed.

As of now, this is all i have but by tomorrow if possible, i will be posting a theory of part 3 to support this one. I hope you enjoyed it.

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[End of Days]

several villages allied for a common goal and did it