Hiruko VS Itachi Uchiha

[LustyLover]

Precog + Sharingan predictory isn't letting him get blitzed as well as the fact that he kept up and stalemated with Bee (equal to Ay) and Naruto, who's even faster than Ay. He's not responding to Amaterasu. You don't need to only be fast to dodge it, but you need precognition, something the Sharingan grants. Even if he can harden his skin he doesn't have enough time to avoid the Sakegari's speed. It really is as easy as fighting him with clones, because even if he doesn't look at his eyes, a crow clone can force him to. I really don't see how Hiruko wins this at all. Though I will admit, I was impressed with Hiruko during the movie. But in the movies all the main antagonists are impressive and were all killed by the protagantist (Naruto), so it's not saying much.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Have we seen Orochimaru say that he wanted Totsuka for that reason?

Not really solid when you have no proof other than "Orochimaru could do it, so that's what he was going to do"

It doesn't matter why Orochimaru wanted it.

He can use it for science, he can use it just to own it, he can use it to use in battle (because he CAN do all these things)

One of those or all of those has to be true, I don't think it matters.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Precog + Sharingan predictory isn't letting him get blitzed as well as the fact that he kept up and stalemated with Bee (equal to Ay) and Naruto, who's even faster than Ay.

Kakashi couldn't keep up with him and he has sharingan. Also Bee wasn't using his speed in that fight, he was carrying Samehada- Hiruko pretty much jumps everybody he came up against.

Also I personally dont think Amateresu is doing anything. He has earth style armour like Kakazu, can absorb jutsu like Preta and fast insane speed like Raikage. There's just too much against it. Hiruko can absorb it and send the chakra back in the form of blue first blast (which he did to Team 7)

Genjutsu is Itachi's only chance.

 

[LustyLover]

Kakashi couldn't keep up with him and he has sharingan. Also Bee wasn't using his speed in that fight, he was carrying Samehada- Hiruko pretty much jumps everybody he came up against.

Also I personally dont think Amateresu is doing anything. He has earth style armour like Kakazu, can absorb jutsu like Preta and fast insane speed like Raikage. There's just too much against it. Hiruko can absorb it and send the chakra back in the form of blue first blast (which he did to Team 7)

Genjutsu is Itachi's only chance.

Kakashi only has one Sharingan. One which, even though it's Obito's, was stated to be vastly inferior to Itachi's double MS. Because of the superiority in dojutsu, he should be able to keep up.

Bee was using his speed in that fast. Sasuke, who kept up with Ay's speed, was stomped by Bee when he pulled out his knifes, which is precisely what he did to Itachi, and still failed to so much as scratch him.

His Doton armor isn't instantaneous; it takes time to weave the sign(s) and is useless if you cannot respond to a fast jutsu in time. Yes he can absorb like the Preta Path, but Itachi will only use that to his advantage like Lord Jiraiya did.

Itachi has alot more to utilize than just Genjutsu.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Kakashi only has one Sharingan. One which, even though it's Obito's, was stated to be vastly inferior to Itachi's double MS. Because of the superiority in donuts, he should be able to keep up.

Bee was using his speed in that fast. Sasuke, who kept up with Ay's speed, was stomped by Bee when he pulled out his knifes, which is precisely what he did to Itachi, and still failed to so much as scratch him.

His Doton armor isn't instantaneous; it takes time to weave the sign(s) and is useless if you cannot respond to a fast jutsu in time. Yes he can absorb like the Preta Path, but Itachi will only use that to his advantage like Lord Jiraiya did.

Itachi has Sage Justu now?

And no his doton armour isn't like Kakazu's, he can actually do all of his kekkai genkai without hand seals. He used it to stop Sai's counter attack when he jumped him. The rest sounds fair enough. Killer Bee was NOT pulling a Raikage/minato style speedblitz though- he really was not.

 

[LustyLover]

Itachi has Sage Justu now?

And no his doton armour isn't like Kakazu's, he can actually do all of his kekkai genkai without hand seals. He used it to stop Sai's counter attack when he jumped him. The rest sounds fair enough. Killer Bee was NOT pulling a Raikage/minato style speedblitz though- he really was not.

My bad, didn't know he could do it without weaving signs. And I agree, he wasn't pulling an Ay/Minato speed-type fight. As far as dodging goes, though, he's capable enough to do so. Is he capable enough to match in sheer foot speed? Doubt it. But I also doubt he can get blitzed.

Oh and I meant that Hiruko can absorb it like the Preta path, but Itachi can exploit that in a similar fashion like Jiraiya did because, while absorbing a technique, the user will have trouble responding to much else.

Just noticed I said Itachi is superior in donuts...better change that.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

My bad, didn't know he could do it without weaving signs. And I agree, he wasn't pulling an Ay/Minato speed-type fight. As far as dodging goes, though, he's capable enough to do so. Is he capable enough to match in sheer foot speed? Doubt it. But I also doubt he can get blitzed.

Oh and I meant that Hiruko can absorb it like the Preta path, but Itachi can exploit that in a similar fashion like Jiraiya did because, while absorbing a technique, the user will have trouble responding to much else.

Just noticed I said Itachi is superior in donuts...better change that.

loooooooool

mm there could be some truth in the jutsu absorption tech, of course it isn't the same as Pain's and it seems he can do other stuff meanwhile, especially as his cloak's tendrils can like, attack on their own- and they're surprisingly powerful.

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Hiruko does still use seals for his attack jutsu but for absorption and self-defense they're pretty much automatic.

Genjutsu IMO really is Itachi's only hope and he can potentially snare Hiruko a la Kakashi but I also think he's going to be preoccupied avoiding Hiruko's wide range of jutsu (if he can, his gale style is pretty ridiculously big) so yeah, Genjutsu can win him the match but if he rushes in he's getting beaten up (though unlikely defeated) and if he tries Susanoo then he's a goner. Hiruko is as close to a anti-Susanoo ninja as you can get.

 

[Red Slayer]

Ita wins IMO

 

[AizenSosuke]

Itachi takes this.

 

[Itachi4life]

Speed is a non factor here. Itachi can keep up with Naruto and Bee. Also, it is stated that Sharingan's precognition can help someone keep up with an opponent a lot faster than the user (Kishi's words/Manga fact). Itachi low diff vs this filler char.

 

[Aikor]

Anyoune who says that Itachi stomps, obviously hasn't even seen Hiruko in actuon. Hiruko solos. Avoiding eye contact is his counter to genjutsu.

Yeah but im sure there is no way hiruko can defeat itachi in susano mode.He has yata mirror which is said to deflect anything and Totsuka Blade can seal anyone who gets stabbed by it.And combined those attacks he is said to be immortal said by zetsu

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Yeah but im sure there is no way hiruko can defeat itachi in susano mode.He has yata mirror which is said to deflect anything and Totsuka Blade can seal anyone who gets stabbed by it.And combined those attacks he is said to be immortal by zetsu

Have you read any of this thread? If Itachi goes to his Susanoo mode he literally dooms himself. Hiruko is the closest thign to a anti-Susanoo ninja. He has a jutsu that has the earth beneath it open up and eat it, he can outspeed him so that Itachi solo's himself due to stamina, he can absorb the Susanoo and he can't be pierced due to his armour. Itachi is temporarily invincible thanks to Yata but he's killing himself just by trying to hold it. Hiruko leaves him to it.

 

[Aikor]

Have you read any of this thread? If Itachi goes to his Susanoo mode he literally dooms himself. Hiruko is the closest thign to a anti-Susanoo ninja. He has a jutsu that has the earth beneath it open up and eat it, he can outspeed him so that Itachi solo's himself due to stamina, he can absorb the Susanoo and he can't be pierced due to his armour. Itachi is temporarily invincible thanks to Yata but he's killing himself just by trying to hold it. Hiruko leaves him to it.

Ok but even though u think hirukos more powerful u forgot tht itachi is a genius.He can make strategys and can find the weakness of the enemy.Not to mention tht hes a genjutsu type.How would hiruko knw tht itachi uses genjutsu usin his eyes if he doesnt have any intel.In tht instant he will be caught in his tsukuyomi which cannot be countered unless if its an uchiha.

 

[Katsumi Ren]

Itachi can just use susanoo for a second here or there when it would be necessary to block an attack or to seal hiruko if he gets close, he doesn't need to hold it up for a long time.

And don't give me "swift release 2 fast 2 react" nonsense, itachi was able to pull up susanoo and block a lightning strike from kirin in the time it took to reach the ground.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Itachi can just use susanoo for a second here or there when it would be necessary to block an attack or to seal hiruko if he gets close, he doesn't need to hold it up for a long time.

And don't give me "swift release 2 fast 2 react" nonsense, itachi was able to pull up susanoo and block a lightning strike from kirin in the time it took to reach the ground.

Is anybody reading anything? Almost all of Hiruko's moves doom Itachi if he uses Susanoo. It makes Itachi at his most vulnerable as well as draining his own weak stamina.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Ok but even though u think hirukos more powerful u forgot tht itachi is a genius.He can make strategys and can find the weakness of the enemy.Not to mention tht hes a genjutsu type.How would hiruko knw tht itachi uses genjutsu usin his eyes if he doesnt have any intel.In tht instant he will be caught in his tsukuyomi which cannot be countered unless if its an uchiha.

Well being a genius himself (born with no powers and his IQ & experiments turned himself into a beast) who has a huge understanding of all Kekkai Genkai, studying his entire life on the sharingan I think he just might buddy.

Keep trying.

 

[Aikor]

Well being a genius himself (born with no powers and his IQ & experiments turned himself into a beast) who has a huge understanding of all Kekkai Genkai, studying his entire life on the sharingan I think he just might buddy.

Keep trying.

AS i have already said there is no way hiruko will escape in the Tsukuyomi.Itachi might use it while they were both talking.There is no telling when he is gona use it.Hiruko doesnt knw abt itachis jutsus so he ends up being tortured for 3 days.

 

[Itachi4life]

Changed my mind, Itachi neg diffs.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

AS i have already said there is no way hiruko will escape in the Tsukuyomi.Itachi might use it while they were both talking.There is no telling when he is gona use it.Hiruko doesnt knw abt itachis jutsus so he ends up being tortured for 3 days.

Don't be stupid. Tsukiyomi is just one of his jutsu, just because he has it you can't claim it instantly shuts down any fight immediately. I can do the same with any ninja ever.

Many of Hiruko's powers by that logic also have the potential to win the match, he has more variety as well actually because of how Itachi will get beaten in everything else.

Taijutsu? Sweeped. Sharingan may be able to keep up with him but really? lol ok have fun whilst you watch yourself get beaten up Itachi- your body still can't move fast enough.

Ninjutsu? Hiruko is stronger and bigger and can nullify Itachi's and send them straight back at him.

Genjutsu? Itachi's only chance. Hiruko has a life of research to understand the sharingan and thus will know it's jutsu and capabilities.

Intelligence? They seem to be equals, Itachi might be slightly better at battle smarts but also has no intel on these mysterious KKG Hiruko has. Hiruko will know the sharingan powers after spending a life researching the KKG he needs for his evil scheme.

God tools and susanoo? lol have fun soloing yourself Itachi, Hiruko will watch and laugh.

 

[Katsumi Ren]

Don't be stupid. Tsukiyomi is just one of his jutsu, just because he has it you can't claim it instantly shuts down any fight immediately. I can do the same with any ninja ever.

Many of Hiruko's powers by that logic also have the potential to win the match, he has more variety as well actually because of how Itachi will get beaten in everything else.

Taijutsu? Sweeped. Sharingan may be able to keep up with him but really? lol ok have fun whilst you watch yourself get beaten up Itachi- your body still can't move fast enough.

Ninjutsu? Hiruko is stronger and bigger and can nullify Itachi's and send them straight back at him.

Genjutsu? Itachi's only chance. Hiruko has a life of research to understand the sharingan and thus will know it's jutsu and capabilities.

Intelligence? They seem to be equals, Itachi might be slightly better at battle smarts but also has no intel on these mysterious KKG Hiruko has. Hiruko will know the sharingan powers after spending a life researching the KKG he needs for his evil scheme.

God tools and susanoo? lol have fun soloing yourself Itachi, Hiruko will watch and laugh.

All I see is a fanboy. You started this thread fully willing to completely ignore anyone's reasonable argument. I'm just going to point back and previous posts, the same we you'll just keep repeating dumb shit like "itachi solo's himself with susanoo". There's no point in anyone else posting in this thread.