[VS] A vs Itachi

[Apêx1]

Give Itachi genjutsu and Ay both arms

Ay still wins. If landing a powerful genjutsu on him, or even a genjutsu that will actually help Itachi is so easy as these itachi supporters seem to believe then why did 5 Susanoo Madaras were unable to do it until he let his guard down?

These people....

Lel, Itachi decimates Ay if he has his genjutsu.

 

[LuckyMan]

Lel, Itachi decimates Ay if he has his genjutsu.

He does not. Ay still wins. The fact 5 Madaras could not land a genjutsu on him is evidence enough that Itachi can't.

 

[Apêx1]

He does not. Ay still wins. The fact 5 Madaras could not land a genjutsu on him is evidence enough Itachi can't.

Implying 5 Madara's were being serious? Implying 5 Madara's were attempting genjutsu before he was caught? Implying Madara is as proficient in gnenjutsu as Itachi? Implying Madara has feats of genjutsu without eye contact? I could go on for days, Itachi lands a genjutsu whether you like it or not. The Kages having been able to fight Madara and not get caught in genjutsu bar Ay is not proof they are immune to Itachi's genjutsu.

 

[Bogard]

Oldara is a better genjutsu user than Itachi let alone primedara

Itachi can't control multiple individuals simulataneously

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Yet Oldara did it effortlessly despite country level distances

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And lel at the Madara not trying excuse when it was already showed they were specially following the rules [

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It's besides the point however since i restricted this boring argument -_-

 

[Kamui Sama]

shouldn't Ay's lightning release armour theoretically be able to break genjutsu up to a certain level? I mean his chakra throughout his body and going into v2 should be able to counteract the genjutsu users control of the chakra network

it wouldn't work against sharingan paralysis or other sharingan techs but I think it can release ephemeral

 

[Apêx1]

Oldara is a better genjutsu user than Itachi let alone primedara

Itachi can't control multiple individuals simulataneously

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Yet Oldara did it effortlessly despite country level distances

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And lel at the Madara not trying excuse when it was already showed they were specially following the rules [

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It's besides the point however since i restricted this boring argument -_-

You misinterpreted the scan. He said large scale genjutsu in different locations simultaneously would be impossible for Itachi. Did Madara do it to people in different locations at the same time? I think not. The only people who were genjutsu effected where people that where close to each other.

Yes, but the "don't look at his eyes" rule has been attempted against Itachi, and we clearly saw that he ended up using his fingers. Has Madara shown such a thing? Would Ay even know about it before it's too late? Anyways, this is off-topic.

 

[NarutoB]

Genjutsu's restricted? Lmao A stomps

 

[Bogard]

You misinterpreted the scan. He said large scale genjutsu in different locations simultaneously would be impossible for Itachi. Did Madara do it to people in different locations at the same time? I think not. The only people who were genjutsu effected where people that where close to each other.

Yes, but the "don't look at his eyes" rule has been attempted against Itachi, and we clearly saw that he ended up using his fingers. Has Madara shown such a thing? Would Ay even know about it before it's too late? Anyways, this is off-topic.

Location = Position. A position can be defined anywhere on a battlefield, so he was basically saying Itachi can't control multiple people walking around simultaneously something Madara clearly showed to be capable of, even running from Kiri to outskirts of Konoha, creating large explosions and fighting as if nothing happened

The finger genjutsu is too weak to work on A when Sasuke's MS technique failed, but yeah it's off-topic

 

[Kamui Sama]

The finger genjutsu is too weak to work on A when Sasuke's MS technique failed, but yeah it's off-topic

What do you mean by Sasuke's MS tech?

 

[LuckyMan]

Implying 5 Madara's were being serious?

Serious enough that he needed to make 25 clones in order to deal with them after he was nearly sealed.

Implying 5 Madara's were attempting genjutsu before he was caught?

Why would he not? He used genjutsu while figthing the fodders of the alliance and he certainly didn't need it to kill them. Its safe to say he tried genjutsu yet it failed versus Ay until he was caught off guard.

Implying Madara is as proficient in gnenjutsu as Itachi?

Does not matter. Genjutsu is still genjutsu

Implying Madara has feats of genjutsu without eye contact?

Genjutsu is still genjutsu, regardless of how it is executed. Does not matter if its eye genjutsu or finger genjutsu, its not working.

Itachi lands a genjutsu whether you like it or not. The Kages having been able to fight Madara and not get caught in genjutsu bar Ay is not proof they are immune to Itachi's genjutsu.

You believe Itachi automatically lands a genjutsu yet you give no explanation of how. I never said any of the kages are immune to Itachi's genjutsu. It would be pointless trying to use genjutsu except MS on any competent shinobi who will break them by simply biting their lip or finger, such as how Kurenai easily broke Itachi's Sharingan genjutsu. Kurenai broke out of his visual illusion by biting her lip and I think we can agree that visual genjutsu > basic genjutsu.

In other words, All genjutsu Itachi has will be useless except Tsukuyomi which he will not be able to land therefore making genjutsu useless for Itachi.

 

[Bogard]

What do you mean by Sasuke's MS tech?

The Kanashibari Susa no genjutsu he tried to use on A

 

[Inert Brian]

Ay: LIGERRRRRRR BOMBBBB


*Itachi pulls out susano'o as Ay looks at him with a wtf expression*

Itachi: *Slices him with totsuka while he's prone to a hit*

This fight can go either way honestly. Ay is not breaking Susano'o that is a fact, but he is capable of dodging totsuka. Totsuka is the key to victory here, he can land Totsuka through a counter after an assault by Ay to break Susano'o.


I say high diff for both sides.

Sounds crazy as hell, but Itachi should be able to challenge Ay in taijutsu. Itachi was capable of stalemating KCM Naruto in a taijutsu scuffle, the same guy who is slightly above Ay in speed.

Even Sasuke was capable of touching Ay, it's beyond evident Itachi > Sasuke in taijutsu. Just watch Hebi Sasuke vs Itachi, it speaks for itself. Ay of course is a better taijutsu fighter, but by no means is Itachi getting "blitzed".

 

[Prince Charles]

Match is tougher for itachi but I believe he can still win, explosive clones can give itachi the means to use amaterasu by catching Ay off guard due to the smoke from the crow clone.

 

[LustyLover]

Itachi. He can still use his Sakegari whether it's in Susano'o form or not.

 

[A e r o]

Ay: LIGERRRRRRR BOMBBBB


*Itachi pulls out susano'o as Ay looks at him with a wtf expression*

Itachi: *Slices him with totsuka while he's prone to a hit*

This fight can go either way honestly. Ay is not breaking Susano'o that is a fact, but he is capable of dodging totsuka. Totsuka is the key to victory here, he can land Totsuka through a counter after an assault by Ay to break Susano'o.


I say high diff for both sides.

Sounds crazy as hell, but Itachi should be able to challenge Ay in taijutsu. Itachi was capable of stalemating KCM Naruto in a taijutsu scuffle, the same guy who is slightly above Ay in speed.

Even Sasuke was capable of touching Ay, it's beyond evident Itachi > Sasuke in taijutsu. Just watch Hebi Sasuke vs Itachi, it speaks for itself. Ay of course is a better taijutsu fighter, but by no means is Itachi getting "blitzed".

Didn't sasuke touch Ay only because he had chidori?

 

[A e r o]

Ay: LIGERRRRRRR BOMBBBB


*Itachi pulls out susano'o as Ay looks at him with a wtf expression*

Itachi: *Slices him with totsuka while he's prone to a hit*

This fight can go either way honestly. Ay is not breaking Susano'o that is a fact, but he is capable of dodging totsuka. Totsuka is the key to victory here, he can land Totsuka through a counter after an assault by Ay to break Susano'o.


I say high diff for both sides.

Sounds crazy as hell, but Itachi should be able to challenge Ay in taijutsu. Itachi was capable of stalemating KCM Naruto in a taijutsu scuffle, the same guy who is slightly above Ay in speed.

Even Sasuke was capable of touching Ay, it's beyond evident Itachi > Sasuke in taijutsu. Just watch Hebi Sasuke vs Itachi, it speaks for itself. Ay of course is a better taijutsu fighter, but by no means is Itachi getting "blitzed".

Didn't sasuke touch Ay only because he had chidori?

 

[LustyLover]

Itachi. He can still use his Sakegari whether it's in Susano'o form or not and prep a crow clone with Amaterasu and position it behind Ay.

 

[LustyLover]

Didn't sasuke touch Ay only because he had chidori?

No, it's because he dodged his Elbow Bolt with sheer agility in speed and quickly positioned himself under Ay's arm. And Itachi > Sasuke in speed, easily.

 

[Vapid]

If Itachi knows that his genjutsu is restricted, he will likely pull Susanoo out immediately. In this scenario, Itachi wins 6/10, med- to high-diff.

 

[A e r o]

No, it's because he dodged his Elbow Bolt with sheer agility in speed and quickly positioned himself under Ay's arm. And Itachi > Sasuke in speed, easily.

So how did he get through Ay's lightning armor? I thought only sasuke chidori pierced it. Only thing Itachi has to pierce is the tosuka blade, I think it could pierce.