[VS] Tobirama(Alive) vs. Minato(Alive)

[Touken]

Minato isn't touching Tobirama anyway. Doesn't matter how many kunai Minato's spread out. Tobirama just outlasts.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

You can reply now kaant

 

[xxxLegacy]

Minato isn't touching Tobirama anyway. Doesn't matter how many kunai Minato's spread out. Tobirama just outlasts.

lel but Tobirama can touch Minato or what ? hahahaah Frog Song ? What will Tobirama than do :Omg:

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Minato isn't touching Tobirama anyway. Doesn't matter how many kunai Minato's spread out. Tobirama just outlasts.

If attrition is the best argument you have then you have no argument.

 

[Touken]

If attrition is the best argument you have then you have no argument.

lmao, you have no argument as to how Minato beats Tobirama. Just commenting on Minato's "FTG versatility" doesn't cut it. Make one point on how he beats Tobirama.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

lmao, you have no argument as to how Minato beats Tobirama. Just commenting on Minato's "FTG versatility" doesn't cut it. Make one point on how he beats Tobirama.

he beats tobirama the same way he beat ay. ftg versatility.
or better yet he calls on frogs for help.(not that its necessary)

 

[xxxLegacy]

lmao, you have no argument as to how Minato beats Tobirama. Just commenting on Minato's "FTG versatility" doesn't cut it. Make one point on how he beats Tobirama.

Frog Song is enought.....

 

[Bogard]

It's not like Tobirama has instant reaction speed otherwise the Jubito or Madara scene would have never happened. It would be a battle of speed just like the one against Obito and Minato bested a superior teleportative jutsu. Obito can phase instantly to the point even Jubidara struggles to touch him, yet Minato bested him. It would happen the same here considering Minato is faster. Besides, Minato has another mode(SM), which increase all his base stats including environment sensing it gives him the definite edge. It may be impractical while using it on his own, but he has toads for that

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

If anyone has seen Return of Cooler; The DBZ movie. This fight will go exactly as Meta Cooler and Goku's. A spam of FTG. Not sure who wins, as Tobirama certainly can react to Minato and shouldn't be caught off guard by his own jutsu. I'd give an edge to Minato for having the already and most likely quantity of kunai's marked.

 

[blazekev90]

If anyone has seen Return of Cooler; The DBZ movie. This fight will go exactly as Meta Cooler and Goku's. A spam of FTG. Not sure who wins, as Tobirama certainly can react to Minato and shouldn't be caught off guard by his own jutsu. I'd give an edge to Minato for having the already and most likely quantity of kunai's marked.

I think everyone can agree with this.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

If anyone has seen Return of Cooler; The DBZ movie. This fight will go exactly as Meta Cooler and Goku's. A spam of FTG. Not sure who wins, as Tobirama certainly can react to Minato and shouldn't be caught off guard by his own jutsu. I'd give an edge to Minato for having the already and most likely quantity of kunai's marked.

Been saying that for 3 pages.

 

[Gold Lightning]

I'm telling you to calm down because your quoting any and everyone even when it's not necessary. We know Minato wins, but I'll let you know he isn't touching any of my faves #!

Obviously location matters. Washing them away from the battlefield removes them from being a threat. If minato were to teleport to those washed away, what's the point? Unless he tagged something near the fight, he'll just run back into battle? Lol Tobimara wouldn't chase him, this isn't tag. Similar to Tobi, he'll pace himself

I only quoted you, maybe you should calm down :eww:

 

[Touken]

he beats tobirama the same way he beat ay. ftg versatility.
or better yet he calls on frogs for help.(not that its necessary)

Riiiight, because Ay has FTG as well? Wonderful.

Anyway, Gojou Kibakufuda ends this. Minato can't FTG out of there because he'd be in the blast radius and his kunai would be there too, nor can he Shunshin out of the way if Tobirama has his Edo prep the technique, and then have it teleport to a kunai. He wouldn't be able to react to it considering once it explodes, the blast is at least several times bigger than Bunta and combining it with FTG would leave Minato no time to react. It's a shame Minato has no techniques that cover a large AoE.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Riiiight, because Ay has FTG as well? Wonderful.

Anyway, Gojou Kibakufuda ends this. Minato can't FTG out of there because he'd be in the blast radius and his kunai would be there too, nor can he Shunshin out of the way if Tobirama has his Edo prep the technique, and then have it teleport to a kunai. He wouldn't be able to react to it considering once it explodes, the blast is at least several times bigger than Bunta and combining it with FTG would leave Minato no time to react. It's a shame Minato has no techniques that cover a large AoE.

So you want to name the edo he's gonna summon?

Besides hiruzen outran that tech with ease.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Riiiight, because Ay has FTG as well? Wonderful.

Anyway, Gojou Kibakufuda ends this. Minato can't FTG out of there because he'd be in the blast radius and his kunai would be there too, nor can he Shunshin out of the way if Tobirama has his Edo prep the technique, and then have it teleport to a kunai. He wouldn't be able to react to it considering once it explodes, the blast is at least several times bigger than Bunta and combining it with FTG would leave Minato no time to react. It's a shame Minato has no techniques that cover a large AoE.

So you want to name the edo he's gonna summon?

Besides hiruzen outran that tech with ease.

 

[Gold Lightning]

So you want to name the edo he's gonna summon?

Besides hiruzen outran that tech with ease.

Don't bother, I bet you all the money in the world that he can't. Nor can he provide the scan of the sacrifices, or the DNA used; let alone the list of edos in tobiramas arsenal.

At least with orochimaru and Kabuto we can name which summonings they have access to and the ones they don't have access ie the ones that have been sealed.

 

[Touken]

So you want to name the edo he's gonna summon?

Besides hiruzen outran that tech with ease.

Ah, you wanna show me where Minato's used Ma & Pa in the manga?

lmao, I love these arguments. Completely contradictory when it's been stated in the manga he's used Edo.

Tobirama didn't use Gojou Kibakufuda in conjunction with Hiraishin because he had to give time for Hiruzen to get away. Instead he ran towards Juubito instead of teleporting to him, even though he had a seal on him. Minato still isn't reacting in time against Hiraishin + Gojou Kibakufuda, whereas Minato isn't ever landing a touch on Tobirama.

 

[Bogard]

Gudodama erases everything upon contact. At full speed, armless Minato was able to

1- Catch the gudodamas
2- Teleport
3- Remove his jacket

All that before the instantaneous erasing effects of gudodamas managed to do anything

Kibakufuda requires

1- Throw of the explosive tags
2- Summoning of other explosive tags
3- Detonating of the jutsu
4- Continous explosion

And the explosive tags explosion has been shown to be 3 times slower than Minato's reaction speed

Even in a surprise attack(only scenario where it's actually useful), it's never landing

With knowledge, it loses his purpose. Tobirama needs to stay away before casting the jutsu. The moment Tobirama would try his jutsu he would know and be prepared to dodge, counter or even redirect it on Tobirama anytime. Besides, Minato could also contract seal them and Tobirama loses any control on them, and if the edos hate Tobirama, they may actually help Minato instead .

Throwing toads water/oil on them may possibly also stop any type of jutsu they could possibly cast. The Kibakufuda is far from being an actual factor as some people really think it to be. There are many ways to counter this jutsu

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Ah, you wanna show me where Minato's used Ma & Pa in the manga?

lmao, I love these arguments. Completely contradictory when it's been stated in the manga he's used Edo.

Tobirama didn't use Gojou Kibakufuda in conjunction with Hiraishin because he had to give time for Hiruzen to get away. Instead he ran towards Juubito instead of teleporting to him, even though he had a seal on him. Minato still isn't reacting in time against Hiraishin + Gojou Kibakufuda, whereas Minato isn't ever landing a touch on Tobirama.

I never mentioned ma or pa. I only said frogs.

Assumption a) minato is marked with tobirama's harishin or near one of his few jump spots
B) that he has an edo available.

I mean if you're gonna use hypothetical summons I might as well give minato infinite sm

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Guddodama did a good job of erasing Tobirama's hand, and Gai's chakra output. Instantaneous erasure? Not very instant if it didn't erase instantly.