[Spoilers] So about The Donquixote pirates

[mishoa]

so the top three offiers are Trebol (special abilities) Diamante (Battle brigade) and Pica(special op's) so at first I was leaning towards Diamante of the strongest out of the three of them but seeing Pica lately I just don't know What do you think?

 

[David1996]

I love Trebol, but Pica seems to be the strongest.

 

[sravan]

pica for me

 

[deva pein]

1. Doffy
2. Vergo/Pica
3. Pica/Vergo
4. Diamante
5. Trebol

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Pica is the strongest of the executives, clearly.

 

[deva pein]

Pica is the strongest of the executives, clearly.

Do you also think he is stronger then Vergo?

 

[Gintõki1]

Pica, as the others already said.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Do you also think he is stronger then Vergo?

Definitely, thought that would have been obvious to some by now
Once Law wasn't having his heart repeatedly vice clawed he one shotted Vergo....
I can't see him one shotting Pica so easily.

 

[deva pein]

Definitely, thought that would have been obvious to some by now
Once Law wasn't having his heart repeatedly vice clawed he one shotted Vergo....
I can't see him one shotting Pica so easily.

Pica is really strong but he is a lot less difficult to hit then Vergo who is a Haki beast, whose Haki is probably on the level of top tier Haki users. His attacks have a lot less AOE but they are more precise. They are even in my opinion.

That was plot induced stupidity on Vergo's part. Who the **** tries to tank a sword with a HAXXX ability? Only someone cocky sure enough of both his own defensive capability and his opponent's offensive strength. If he would have dodged it or blocked it it would have been pretty nasty for Law.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Pica is really strong but he is a lot less difficult to hit then Vergo who is a Haki beast, whose Haki is probably on the level of top tier Haki users. His attacks have a lot less AOE but they are more precise. They are even in my opinion.

That was plot induced stupidity on Vergo's part. Who the **** tries to tank a sword with a HAXXX ability? Only someone cocky sure enough of both his own defensive capability and his opponent's offensive strength. If he would have dodged it or blocked it it would have been pretty nasty for Law.

Sorry, no idea what AOE is o.o

Agreed, but that can be said about Pica and almost any character.
Would disagree with the Haki part too. It was very impressive but top tier Haki users wouldn't get cut in half by a combo of Laws devil fruit and his CoA.

And ye, but it's still a part of his character U_U Vergo was extremely underrating Law due to him being still being seen as a kid by many members of the Donquixote Pirates still.

 

[deva pein]

Sorry, no idea what AOE is o.o

Agreed, but that can be said about Pica and almost any character.
Would disagree with the Haki part too. It was very impressive but top tier Haki users wouldn't get cut in half by a combo of Laws devil fruit and his CoA.

And ye, but it's still a part of his character U_U Vergo was extremely underrating Law due to him being still being seen as a kid by many members of the Donquixote Pirates still.

AOE=Area of effect

A few top tiers who rely mainly on their DF will be cut just like Vergo. Vergo is a High Tier but his Haki is a tier above him.
It is true that Vergo is arrogant but I don't think Law is on par with him if you turn off his stupidity. With it Law can win, but only with a One shot kill technique like the mountain cutting slash.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

AOE=Area of effect

A few top tiers who rely mainly on their DF will be cut just like Vergo. Vergo is a High Tier but his Haki is a tier above him.
It is true that Vergo is arrogant but I don't think Law is on par with him if you turn off his stupidity. With it Law can win, but only with a One shot kill technique like the mountain cutting slash.

Name a few, although Vergo is not top tier imo...plus how does it work his Haki is a level above himself? O__O how on earth does that work?....
Regardless, you can't just take away and add to characters, if that was the case I could argue if we give Ussop the YYnm then he beats Vergo, see why that's ridiculous and doesn't work in debates?

 

[deva pein]

Name a few, although Vergo is not top tier imo...plus how does it work his Haki is a level above himself? O__O how on earth does that work?....
Regardless, you can't just take away and add to characters, if that was the case I could argue if we give Ussop the YYnm then he beats Vergo, see why that's ridiculous and doesn't work in debates?

Well his Haki is a lot stronger than a lot of the High Tiers, maybe even the strongest of the High Tiers. It is probably atleast on par with the Haki of Marco, BB and maybe Mihawk. They rely on their DF or swordsmanship.

And I know you can't just take away mindsets, but this seemed so stupid and it was the only way for Law to win.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Well his Haki is a lot stronger than a lot of the High Tiers, maybe even the strongest of the High Tiers. It is probably atleast on par with the Haki of Marco, BB and maybe Mihawk. They rely on their DF or swordsmanship.

And I know you can't just take away mindsets, but this seemed so stupid and it was the only way for Law to win.

....I highly doubt Mingos first mate has haki on par with the first mate of a Yonko, an actual Yonko and someone who has been claimed to have daily spars with another Yonko, it's laughable you even compared it with theirs.

And well, he did. Whether it seemed stupid or not it;s the way Oda wrote the character, just like he wrote Ussop to not have the YYnm XD

 

[deva pein]

It isn't as laughable as you might think. Vergo's specialization is Haki while Marco, BB and Mihawk specialize in other things.
i'm sure Vergo's haki is stronger then BB's Haki, because I don't see BB training to achieve power. He likes stealing it because it is a lot less hard to steal DF then to train your own Haki. Marco couldn't even scratch Akainu so his Haki isn't top notch, it isn't irrelevant either because he could hit Kizaru pretty hard. He just specializes in his DF.
With Mihawk I'm not sure but with Jozu blocking his slash I don't think his Haki is too high.

 

[Red Swag]

doffy>peeka>diamante/vergo/trebol

 

[Love Cook]

I also think Vergo is stronger than the executives.

He was Doffy's right hand man, and without Law's fruit, he wouldn't be able to cut him down.

For a good ranking I wish Zoro would've tried to slash him, or Luffy tried to punch him with haki.

But if you would take Smoker as a Luffy benchmark, than it would've been a long and painful battle that Vergo probably would win. I can't see Luffy use haki to the same extent that Vergo was able to.

Infused haki > Stone

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[Fireplay]

Pica clearly. Diamante is a joke, i have no idea why he's still around.

Vergo>Pica>Trebol<=>Diamante

 

[deva pein]

I was under the impression that Diamante and Trebol where around te same lavel but that Diamante was still stronger.