[Theory] Kaguya isn't bigger than the earth, nor is she posessing Madara.

Everztar

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since everyone has been making crazy theories about Kaguya being bigger than the earth and that Madara is a puppet of hers and blah blah... i'd like to share my thoughts... and what i believe.

on the following pictures, you don't have to read the texts because they don't have anything to do with it...
the important part is that all the pictures that has the same blurry/gray-ish panels like the Kaguya Manga Panel from this week are actually thoughts/visions/flashbacks/storys. they're not actually happening in the present time.

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if you look carefully at those pictures... you will realize that EVERYTIME there's a darker gray-ish blurry panel...
it indicates a vision... some sort of either flashback, thought... just a quick flash...
and that quick flash shows like "this is what he's imagining right now"

then there's this picture... which all of you claim is the physical body of Kaguya... i've even heard you guys say that this is the new form of Madara, like WTF? you serious?

i believe that this is just a vision...
i think it's because Madara is thinking "the moon is like Kaguya's eye in the forehead" or feeling such power and excitement that he's thinking he's on par with Kaguya, using HER power.
i think it indicates that the forehead eye of reflection in the moon has the power of Kaguya... it doesn't mean that the moon is Kaguya's eye, it doesn't mean that Madara is now taken over by Kaguya and it certainly does NOT MEAN THAT MADARA IS NOW A "PUPPET".

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it's a vision, an indication... it just shows that, when Madara is pointing his eye at the moon, the effect is kinda like if Kaguya were there and looked over the whole earth and casted Infinite Tsukuyomi on all living things.

so yeah that is what i believe.

because i won't believe in no bullshit that some woman introduced 20 chapters ago will be the final villain when the story was always pointing at madara since long time ago! and all the preparations that Obito did and Nagato helped with, Akatsuki and all their story would've been ruined... all in vein, for nothing!

anything you'd like to ask just ask, thoughts or arguments/proofs for the opposite is always welcome.
as no one can be perfect and we all learn every day, i can't say that i'm right... i'm just saying i have a logical answer.

p.s. Madara wants everyone to become one (he connects all of them with the new jutsu and he will control all of them and give them new destinies in a new alternate world created by himself "Infinite Tsukuyomi")

1. everyone is now connected
2. everyone has rinnegan eyes now
3. all humans are now Madara's puppets, and they will cocoon, sleep, wake up in a new world just as if Madara did this to them;

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bye bye! *_*
 

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I don't think madara is being controlled by kaguya. I think both of them has the same dream of IT
 

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A symbolism to show the similarity between two but it was really Kaguyas voice that asked him to absorb the tree,was not it?It was not just a vision.
 

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Colossus Kayuga confirmed.

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It's just like that it's all happening according to Kaguya's will...
 

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Nope, pretty sure she's a giant.
 

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I agree. Kaguya being bigger than the earth is ridiculous. However the people who are saying kaguya has possessed madara are not using the scan which you posted of kaguya looking at the earth but rather the tree telling madara to absorb it. They probably believe the shinju is possessed by kaguya and madara absorbing the shinju makes him by extension possessed by kaguya.
 

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So really pepole are saying that kaguya is bigger than earth :leaf:

OT: Nice theory. though I believe that kaguya will troll Madara in near future
 

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I thought the whole bigger than earth thing was purely comical. I didn't think anyone would take it seriously. Though I suppose some would...... XD

Well she is not possessing him.... though in the near future she may..... In which case if she does I'll stop reading the Manga.... Madara deserves far better than that imho.

Edit: I probably won't quit....but I'll be entirely apathetic about reading it. My overall opinion on Kishi as a writer will drop severely.....it already has dropped considerably.... I just feel Madara deserves a warriors death not a death fit for a puppet.
 
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I think the picture illustrates that Madara is actually doing what Kaguya wants him to do. That is why you can see her and that is why she has this evel smile on her face. Also - why does the obvious thing has to happen (Madara = final opponent)?. It would be much more interesting if Kaguya appears all of a sudden. When this happens we can learn more about the tree, fruit and her character. I am really interested in her story.
 

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i do think kaguya will try to control madara but he already have backup plans .. i mean someone telling him to absorb the juubi .. he can't just absorb it without thinking about that voice ,, madara not that stupid ,,
 

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I do think that there is a special reason why the tree talked to Madara and Kaguyas eyes were shown afterwards. Maybe she will troll Madara in the future, who knows.
 

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1- good thread .

2- i agree with you about what did you say about kaguya .
 
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Thankfully, someone who doesn't take for granted the fact that Madara is being possessed by Kaguya.

There is also another interpretation for that panel: maybe Kaguya is just viewing the happenings and waiting for Madara to conclude the Infinite Tsukuyomi, but without taking part in it.


In reference to that "everything to become one", I think that there is also another interpretation: everyone is being absorbed all their chakra, and therefore, once reached a point, all chakra will become one. Remember what Hagoromo told to Naruto a couple of chapters ago: "when the chakra becomes one, a new chakra fruit will be created, and if we don't stop that, it will be the end of the world"; and that is exactly what is happening now.

I don't know if it is spam or not (if it is, please don't hesitate to delete my post), but if someone is interested in all this stuff about Kaguya, the Shinju, the chakra being stolen... I have a theory in which I explain my thoughts about them:

Thanks for reading.

Bye.
 
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... What? who the hell said shes bigger than the earth? its clearly just an image
 

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Yeah, I agree that it is only a symbol.
But I think Kaguya (Fruit) has something to do with it.
 

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I agree that isn't Kaguya physically. It's just a metaphor/foreshadowing that Kaguya is going to rule & not Madara. That is what I believe. I believe that Kaguya will take over. The Plan wouldn't be in vain ... it would be in vain for Madara though. But Kishi will explain what the true purpose of this Plan is. I think the true purpose is her revival. About why & such, we have to wait until Kishi explains!

& also, look at this Page. We clearly see the God Tree talking! Besides, it can't be the Tree, it has to be Kaguya. Since a few pages later, we see her face in the shadows.
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Kishi is giving signs already! Ya'll will be surprised.
 
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