[Theory] Naruto must be Immune to MT

[Raekwon26]

Deva path was caught under Ma and pa's sound genjutsu too... So why shouldn't sasuke too against a genjutsu that is way too stronger than ma and pa's?? See we are not talking abt simple jutsu's here... SO6P's power man... SO6P's power....

That doesn't work.
Black Zetsu clearly highlighted that Sasuke's Rinnegan was a reason why he is able to repel the Genjutsu.

SM so far has NOT been shown to repel the Genjutsu and Kabuto is a prime example of that.

 

[Chīkara]

this is all unconfirmed nonsense. BZ never said that, go back and reread.

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''His rinnegan must be able to fight of the Jutsu''
I think you should re-read.

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[captainaruto]

I think it would be Sasuke, rather than Naruto, who would be able to overcome MT. However he is not strong enough to cancel it on his own, he himself basically said that much. I do agree that if Naruto were to get affected, the effect would be different (weaker), quite possibly the tree wrapping itself around him would fail and if he gets his consciousness back after that point, he would be as strong (possibly even stronger) as Hagoromo in his prime.

JUST THE POINT I WAS MAKING... Thanks for understanding....

 

[Chīkara]

who told you that sasuke didnt need susanoo ? you are Trolling

Sasuke is afraid of limbo madara's and you knew it

Look at my post above ^ Kid.

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[Raekwon26]

When did Kabuto get SO6P's powers?? He didn't na?? So no wonder if he fell for it....

SO6P's powers have nothing to do with the fact that you stated Senjutsu might be able to break it.
We've seen that senjutsu is not able to break it. It's called SAGE mode, natural energy which the Sage himself used to fight the Juubi.

Also, BZ stated that Sasuke's eye was able to repel the Genjutsu but he needed to use his Susano'o so that the others didn't fall under the Genjutsu.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Incorrect, Black zetsu said he was immune due to Sasuke's sharingan being the same as the
Dójutsu that is being used for MT.. He just saved team 7, but he himself is not in need of Susano'o.

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Black zetsu also said itachi was invincible. So itachi>sasuke?

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

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''His rinnegan must be able to fight of the Jutsu''
I think you should re-read.

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You are lacking common sense bro.... Try next time

 

[captainaruto]

That doesn't work.
Black Zetsu clearly highlighted that Sasuke's Rinnegan was a reason why he is able to repel the Genjutsu.

SM so far has NOT been shown to repel the Genjutsu and Kabuto is a prime example of that.

See What naruto got from SO6P is not a pool of Nature Chakara that he has been collecting for years.. The notion of equating what naruto got from SO6P to Just a lot of Senjutsu chakara is just plain dumb. What he got is his powers not just chakara. So don't just compare any senjutsu user to naruto... And anyway... The fact is.. Kabuto was not collecting the chakara himself, he just borrowed it from orochimaru (which he took back)...

 

[captainaruto]

SO6P's powers have nothing to do with the fact that you stated Senjutsu might be able to break it.

I never said naruto will be able to break MT, what i said is.. he will have a different reaction to it. And that reaction will leave him a window open to fight it. There are other ways to fight a genjustu other than just break out of it....

 

[Raekwon26]

See What naruto got from SO6P is not a pool of Nature Chakara that he has been collecting for years.. The notion of equating what naruto got from SO6P to Just a lot of Senjutsu chakara is just plain dumb. What he got is his powers not just chakara. So don't just compare any senjutsu user to naruto... And anyway... The fact is.. Kabuto was not collecting the chakara himself, he just borrowed it from orochimaru (which he took back)...

I can compare it. He hasn't shown anything really other than real further enhancements of his original Sage techniques. Beinga bale to sense attacks, sense where the opponent is; he could do all that in SM, now it has enhanced.
All the other stuff has been Bijuu related.

Also, the concept of Naruto getting the Rinnegan is way off. The Sage CLEARLY stated that his power is not to be possesed by anyone, so why all of a sudden is it OK for Naruto to now possess it?

 

[Naestro]

Incorrect, Black zetsu said he was immune due to Sasuke's sharingan being the same as the
Dójutsu that is being used for MT.. He just saved team 7, but he himself is not in need of Susano'o.

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We do not know if Naruto is immune to it or not, because before the light could come close to them Sasuke shielded them from the light with susan'O, As it was Sasuke's assemption that Naruto isn't immune it OR he knows that Naruto is immune to it, he's just shielding the other two players beside them.

We'll have to wait a chapter or two to see if Naruto is immune to it or not.

I was wondering if Kabuto got under the genjutsu since most people who fell under genjutsu had this (....) near their image but kabuto had none also they showed most people who were under genjutsu but not kabuto. I am puzzled to weither he is under IT or not. *_*

 

[Cael]

Kaguya DID complete IT.

The "Rinnegan" everyone has is synthetic like when the Kyuubi had "Sharingan" from obito's control.

Sasuke's Rinnegan is most likely granting immunity.

The Susano'o "SHELL" Sasuke created is protecting Team 7.

Sasuke asked Naruto and the rest not to leave Susano'o for a REASON...

Naruto's is just not the type to break a genjutsu... Sakura has a better chance(MangaFact)

your forgetting since naruto has the beast inside of him, he has a better chance than sakura, since the beast are able to wake him out of it, example bee vs sasuke.

 

[captainaruto]

Also, BZ stated that Sasuke's eye was able to repel the Genjutsu but he needed to use his Susano'o so that the others didn't fall under the Genjutsu.

Sharingan genjustu has worked on Other sharingan users... Like in case of Itachi on many other uchiha's. Mangekyo sharingan Tsukuyomi has worked on normal sharingan users, like when itachi used it on Sasuke. At the same time, Mangekyo sharingan tsukuyomi has failed against even normal sharigan (Sasuke broke out of Itachi's tsukuyomi in final fight). Mangekyo tsukuyomi has worked against other mangekyo users too.. Itachi on sasuke against kabuto.

SO the point that, Sasuke is totally immune to MT just because he has the same eye that casted the MT is totally flawed. Same eye or not... Many times it has been shown that, genjustu works on dojutsu users....

 

[Raekwon26]

Sharingan genjustu has worked on Other sharingan users... Like in case of Itachi on many other uchiha's. Mangekyo sharingan Tsukuyomi has worked on normal sharingan users, like when itachi used it on Sasuke. At the same time, Mangekyo sharingan tsukuyomi has failed against even normal sharigan (Sasuke broke out of Itachi's tsukuyomi in final fight). Mangekyo tsukuyomi has worked against other mangekyo users too.. Itachi on sasuke against kabuto.

SO the point that, Sasuke is totally immune to MT just because he has the same eye that casted the MT is totally flawed. Same eye or not... Many times it has been shown that, genjustu works on dojutsu users....

Those Genjustu do not compare to MT at all.
Eye contact was needed for those Genjutsu's to be cast, MT doesn't even require that.

 

[captainaruto]

Also, the concept of Naruto getting the Rinnegan is way off. The Sage CLEARLY stated that his power is not to be possesed by anyone, so why all of a sudden is it OK for Naruto to now possess it?

I clearly stated that naruto is not expected to use any rinnegan tech. What i am saying is.. it might open opportunities for him to fight MT, how?? we clearly don't know... Maybe from the inside. Maybe the final outcome would be that, MT on naruto will be just plain unstable.. But not totally ineffective...

 

[Raekwon26]

I clearly stated that naruto is not expected to use any rinnegan tech. What i am saying is.. it might open opportunities for him to fight MT, how?? we clearly don't know... Maybe from the inside. Maybe the final outcome would be that, MT on naruto will be just plain unstable.. But not totally ineffective...

Having the Rinnegan but not using it?
Then what's the point?
Having a Rinnegan but not using any of his techs? What's it there for? Show?

 

[captainaruto]

Those Genjustu do not compare to MT at all.
Eye contact was needed for those Genjutsu's to be cast, MT doesn't even require that.

Oh! So now you start talking abt scale of jutsus?? Isn't that what i have been trying to say all the way through?? Don't compare any of those senjutsu users to naruto... The scale of senjutsu powers with naruto is way too big than the others.... and essentially its from SO6P...

 

[VongolaX]

Yes off-course! BUt what we are talking abt is the SO6P powers. See! There was no point being made abt rinnegan being immune to genjustu either. And as a matter of fact, Senjutsu Sound Genjutsu (by ma and pa) was very effective against rinnegan (Deva path). So if that's the case, sasuke's rinnegan shouldn't be immune either. But we know that's not the case, so just like that, senjutsu might be having a different reaction to genjustu....

Well, in terms of genjustu MT falls under ocular genjustu.

Remember what itachi told Sasuke after the fight with Dsm kabuto?

He said that you cannot cast a genjustu on someone with the same ocular powers as you, that's why inzanami was created.

Sasuke and Madara both hold the same ocular power, so of course it won't do anything to Sasuke.

The sage sound genjustu is in line of a different genjustu.

The 3rd databook stresses the great differences between genjustu and ocular genjustu's.

Both hold different conditions.

 

[Raekwon26]

Oh! So now you start talking abt scale of jutsus?? Isn't that what i have been trying to say all the way through?? Don't compare any of those senjutsu users to naruto... The scale of senjutsu powers with naruto is way too big than the others.... and essentially its from SO6P...

No.
Totally different and I'll tell you why.

I have a basis for my argument that MT and other Genjutsus are different as we've just seen that MT doesn't require eye contact for people to be caught.
You have NO basis for saying that the Senjutsu that Naruto has will enable him to not face the effects of MT. Have we seen anything from Naruto other than his enhanced SM techs from him so far? What other Senjustu like abilties has he shown?

 

[captainaruto]

Those Genjustu do not compare to MT at all.
Eye contact was needed for those Genjutsu's to be cast, MT doesn't even require that.

Izanami was a normal sharingan tech that didn't require eye contact. But it was created at the first place to fight against another Sharingan user... So according to your theory... no uchihas should ever fall for izanami?? Just because izanami is a Non eye contact jutsu, any sharingan user should be able to repel it??