Sakura =/= Tsunade!

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... Really?

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I don't really need to post Rasengan on here...

But more or less, both Naruto and Sakura are carbon copies of their master minus tailed-beast transformations. The only reason Sasuke isn't quite like that is because he uses Sharingan (and now Rinnegan) based jutsu that Orochimaru doesn't have.

Naruto is far from a carbon copy of Jiraya. Having a few techs passed on from your master doesn't make you one, and even then Naruto has a perfected SM only Jiraya and can use different techs in it. Such as unlike Jiraya Naruto can use Frog Kata to attack his opponents with sage chakra.
 

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Tsunade has yearssssssssssssssssssssss under her belt so when it comes to experience Sakura will never be able to match that.

Secondly, it's clear that Sakura doesn't need Tsunade's lineage to surpass her because if that were the case Kishi would of never had her mirror Tsunade in the first place.

Lastly, Sakura at the age of 16 can use every technique that Tsunade can and she's done each jutsu perfectly the first time she's tried it. Also remember Tsunade said she was the only one who knew the Strength Of One Hundred Healings Technique, which means either Sakura taught herself or Tsunade showed Sakura the jutsu but didn't expect her to catch on. So yes in terms of ability she's advancing beyond Tsunade.

No clan affiliation. Just excellent chakra control and determination!
 
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Tsunade > Sakura
that doesn't say much though....
Tsunade has decades more battle experience and knows how to deal with being alone and not having a man, Sakura apparently still cant accept the truth that Sasuke isn't into her
 

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I agree. Tsunade > Sakura. Senju+Uzumaki. Pretty OP.
 

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Congratz on making the 100th thread about this
 

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Its true Sakura has way less chakra than Tsunade and because of this She is limited as to how many people She can heal at one time compared to Tsunade as well as the Number of jutsus. Take Naruto's shadow Clones if Naruto can do 100 or more Tsunade probably can do 20 to 30 but Sakura at most 2 to 6 why? Chakra Reserves Shadow clones are raw power using jutsu. Tsunade like Naruto can do large chakra base jutsu up to a point sines even Her docent have Naruto's reserves but as far as reserves Sakura is at the end of the line so She can only use jutsus that do not drain Her seal to zero.
 

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Isn't she 50% both? Could be wrong. I don't have much info on Tsunade.
No because Hashirama and Mito were here grandparents, so their child was 50% both
I presume one of Tsunade's parents probably was from another clan or just a regular ninja
Making her 25% uzumaki and 25% senju
 

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actually given the fact that sakura was orginally genjutsu type she could develop good genjutsu which would make her unique if she mixed it with her taijutsu..

if sakura learnt how to put people in genjutsu via touch then it would make her taijutsu deadly and make her very unique

im sorry but she wouldnt . . . .anybody other then god tier if hit by isnt getting back up lol
 

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Tsunade when her brother died:
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The age is not clear, but judging by how Tsunade, Jiraya and Orochimaru look like, I'd say they are the same age as the current heroes are or older.

Tsunade when she met Dan:
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When she met Dan her brother was already dead, so she and her teammates were older at this time.
The next day after this, Dan died, but we cannot see Tsunade's forehead because she is covering it with the Konoha plate.

Where I am going with this?

Tsunade, when she was clearly older than Sakura, she hadn't mastered Byakugou yet. Maybe she wasn't even trying, but If Sakura accomplished the best Jutsu Tsunade has in her arsenal at a younger age than her, this means Sakura will become a better Kunoichi than Tsunade and that she has better chakra control than her.

On top of that, Sakura didn't use any seals when she entered in "Strength of a hundred" Jutsu, while Tsunade did used some:

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It's true that Tsunade used Remote healing to heal and protect Konoha when Pain attacked, but It's also true that Sakura used the same technique to heal the Shinobi Alliance, and that is as impressive as Tsuande did.

Tsunade is the one with more experience, of course, she is like 55 now...

The thing is, Sasuke, without their bloodline and his God-like jutsus, and Naruto without Kurama and his God-like jutsus, they would be just like their masters, or very similar... But she is young anyway, so she has time to develop more techniques and improve her medical ninjutsu, even though I don't think we get to see it...
 
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sakura is only like what? 16 years old and is almost as far as tsunade(if not even better by know) she has also shown big chakra reserves....by the age of 20 she will be far ahead.

Tsunade has Superhuman Strength while Sakura uses Chakra so I say Tsunade is much stronger than Sakura
 

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Since Sakura got her new seal many people in the base (and other forums) are saying she is at Tsunade's level.

Now Im going to prove how false that is.

-Chakra: Tsunade as a Senju has way more chakra than Sakura.

Her feats include: Healing a whole village, Fighting Madara, Half dead healed other Kages.

-Experience/Intelligence: Tsuande is much older than Sakura and is a Sannin she has fought in 2 major wars and is recognized throughout the world. We saw her tactical thinking during her fight with Kabuto.

-Medical Ninjutsu: Sakura is a pretty good medic, but she struggled to keep people like Shikamaru alive, while Tsunade managed to heal him immediately.


Sakura is still far to young and inexperienced to be on Tsunade's level...yet.

On first account, chakra is an assumption. We know it took Tsunade years to get her seal as well. It doesn't matter as Sakura with presumed smaller reserve could still pull all of this off.

Half dead healing other kages is not a chakra feat for her. The chakra she attempted to do that with was Dan's chakra. She had already ran out.

Experience? That's not an indication of surpassing, it just shows Tsunade has more experience.

They are equal in medical ninjutsu. Tsunade gave shikamaru chakra, not heal him. He was already healed because Sakura got up from him a whole page before Tsunade showed up. Stop with that lie.

Inexperience is a result of her age and nothing more. She can do everything tsunade can therefore Tsunade = Sakura.
 

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Tsunade has Superhuman Strength while Sakura uses Chakra so I say Tsunade is much stronger than Sakura
They use the same technique, CES is something Tsunade taught to Sakura. And they both can use it for both punching and lifting things.
I guess I don't need to show you punching examples, but there are a few examples of using CES to lift stuff that people usually forget:

Tsunade lifted the sword of Gamabunta:
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And Sakura stopping Sasori's turbo flight just with her strength:
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But yes, Tsunade has more raw strength according to the Databook. But we also have to consider what Hashirama said:
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So I think It's fair to say they are equally strong, maybe Sakura is a little bit more efficient with her Jutsu than Tsunade.
 

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Not this trite shit again.

Since Sakura got her new seal many people in the base (and other forums) are saying she is at Tsunade's level.

Now Im going to prove how false that is.

People were saying this before she revealed her Byakugō, and rightly so.

-Chakra: Tsunade as a Senju has way more chakra than Sakura.

Her feats include: Healing a whole village, Fighting Madara, Half dead healed other Kages.

This is a massive assumption based on very little. Does Tsunade have massive reserves absolutely? That is not, however, a trait exclusive to Senju. Kisame and A have immense chakra reserves just to name two. Sakura may not have chakra reserves comparable to bijū but she is a top tier medic with near perfect chakra control. She wastes very little of her own reserves - which are likely much bigger than most would suspect.


-Experience/Intelligence: Tsuande is much older than Sakura and is a Sannin she has fought in 2 major wars and is recognized throughout the world. We saw her tactical thinking during her fight with Kabuto.

-Medical Ninjutsu: Sakura is a pretty good medic, but she struggled to keep people like Shikamaru alive, while Tsunade managed to heal him immediately.

Experience is one of those platitudes that mean very little unless they support a sound assertion, which this does not. As far as recognition goes, need I remind you how many skilled shinobi have acknowledged Sakura? Hashirama and Chiyo have both been impressed with her feats.

With regards to Shikamaru, you need to keep in mind that A) Sakura had been fighting and healing an entire army prior to Tsunade arrived, i.e. expending a ton of chakra, and B) it was Naruto's cloak that ultimately saved Shikamaru after Sakura fought to keep him alive. All Tsunade did was rejuvenate him further, likely restoring his chakra reserves.
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Sakura is still far to young and inexperienced to be on Tsunade's level...yet.

You have done a terrible job at proving this.
 

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oh jman has rasen-shuriken? he has tailed beasts chakras? he has bijuu dama? he has onmyoton?

hit the d kid. BODIED

You haven't even been on here long enough to TRY to challenge me in an argument. Who ARE you?

And wtf does "bodied" mean? Are you under 13? This new children slang? I actually even posted... MINUS Tailed-Beast transformations but of course, you're like-minded with some of the others here and don't read the whole post, just the first sentence. And oh, my bad. J-Man doesn't have Rasenshuriken. Oh. My. God. One Jutsu less. Someone call the Naruto News Team. And Naruto hasn't even shown any practical use of Onmyoudon other than staffs.

BODIED!
 

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Jman's sage mode is imperfect and he isn't a heavy clone user. Instead jman relies on fire based ninjutsu and frog techs. Naruto on the other hand uses clones for almost everything.

I mean Jiraiya can USE Katon, but he's never really relied on it. He uses toad techniques and Sage Mode.... As does Naruto.

Regardless of it being imperfect, it's part of his fighting style. As a matter of fact in terms of Toad Sage Mode, Jiraiya had more practical use for it considering he could infinitely collect Natural Energy.
 

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Sakura hasen't even shown that much? Wtf
 

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I mean Jiraiya can USE Katon, but he's never really relied on it. He uses toad techniques and Sage Mode.... As does Naruto.

Regardless of it being imperfect, it's part of his fighting style. As a matter of fact in terms of Toad Sage Mode, Jiraiya had more practical use for it considering he could infinitely collect Natural Energy.

What toad tech other than sm/frog kata has naruto used?

Jman whole fighting style revolves around frogs. Rarely will you see him use clones. While naruto on the other hand has used clones in each and every one of his fights since he learned the tech. Jman uses collaboration techs with his frogs while naruto hasn't even attempted such a thing. Their fighting styles are vastly different. Where as tsunade and sakura fighting style is near identical.
 
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